Chinese Tiger Farms

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edited May 2013 in A Moving Train
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The horrific cruelty of China's tiger farms revealed – where animals are turned into wine

WARNING GRAPHIC CONTENT.

China is allowing the sale of captive-bred tiger skins and body parts – flouting a UN agreement which calls for such trade to be banned, according to an environmental lobby group.

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Huddled in filthy cages and starved to the extent their fur is hanging off their jutting bones, these once majestic creatures are mercilessly being killed to decorate the homes of the elite, while their bones are ground down to make “tonic” wines.

As few as 3,500 tigers survive in the wild, yet more than 5,000 captive-bred tigers are held in sickening Chinese ‘farms’ and ‘zoos’.

Now, pictures released by environmental campaigners shame China’s failed efforts to protect these endangered creatures.

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Investigations by the London-based Environmental Investigation Agency (EIA) have uncovered a legalised domestic trade in the sale of tiger body parts, with skins alone being worth up to £25,000.

Although a 1993 State Council order in China banned the use of tiger bone for medicinal purposes, new evidence suggests a ‘secret’ Government notification on the use of the bones of captive-bred tigers is being used to justify the manufacture of ‘tonic’ wines, which can sell for as much as £130 a bottle.

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Tiger bones are soaked in wine, but are not listed as an ingredient in the 'tonic', the reports states.

The report accuses China of defying the will of the international community and calls upon more senior levels of the Government to take control and amend laws to facilitate the destruction of stockpiles of all tiger parts and the phasing out of tiger farms.

EIA also wants the Government to send a clear message to all breeders, consumers and the industry that official policy is to end all demand and trade.

Debbie Banks, Head of EIA’s Tiger Campaign, said: “The stark contradiction between China’s international posture supporting efforts to save the wild tiger and its inward-facing domestic policies which stimulate demand and ultimately drive the poaching of wild tigers represents one of the biggest cons ever perpetrated in the history of tiger conservation.

“Pro-tiger trade policies are championed by only a handful of officials in a couple of Government departments and it behooves China to vigorously address and terminate this intolerable disconnect between words and deeds which so undermines international efforts to save the tiger.”

A vat of the tiger wine "tonic"

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Pressure for greater protection of rare species including tigers grew ahead the opening of the Convention on the International Trade in Endangered Species in Bangkok.

A David Shepherd Wildlife Foundation spokesman said: “EIA is working with us on the Tiger Time campaign to raise awareness and stop the illegal trade in tigers from all sources whether wild or farmed.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/380 ... -into-wine

There are only a few dozen tigers left in the wild in China. So how is it that the market in tiger pelts and bones is booming there?

The answer is tiger farms. In one way they resemble puppy mills — they breed large numbers of animals for profit. In two other ways they are very different: puppies leave the mills alive, and the mills are closed to the public. Some say the treatment of tigers on Chinese farms is more like that of chickens or livestock.

In China tiger farms are legal and operate like zoos, charging admission for visitors to see mostly tame animals in barren cages or being forced with beatings to do tricks. Hua Ning, project director at the International Fund for Animal Welfare in China, says that tiger farms sometimes pull out tigers’ teeth or claws.

The cats are often malnourished, reduced to just skin and bones. However their skin and bones are what sell, the former for rugs, the latter to be ground into supposedly tonic tiger wine. Oh — and penises. They are made into a soup that is believed to improve virility and can cost as much as $320 per bowl. (Pfizer, you are missing a golden opportunity to market Viagra to a population that seems to be in great need of it.)

The farms deny that they are anything but zoos and that they kill or sell the cats. Meanwhile, they struggle to stay afloat financially, spending money that should be going to feed starving tigers on freezing the carcasses of slain cats instead.

We’re talking about a lot of tigers. A report from the Environmental Investigation Agency (EIA) estimates China’s captive tiger population at 5,000-6,000; The Guardian puts the number at 6,000-10,000. If the purpose of the farms was to breed animals for release into the wild those numbers would be cause for celebration, as experts predict that tigers may become extinct in the wild within 20 years. But no farm has ever released a captive tiger into the wild who survived.

http://www.care2.com/causes/chinese-tig ... parts.html

Hidden In Plain Sight:China's Clandestine Tiger Trade

http://www.eia-international.org/wp-con ... ed-res.pdf

China a culture of ignorance a society of savages.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Good god.

    Not knocking your intent for posting this (I adore tigers and all big cats), but those photos are fucking horrific.

    Maybe put a warning in the thread title?
  • tvismyfriendtvismyfriend Posts: 2,118
    What's the difference between slaughtering a farmed tiger and a farmed cow? (Outside of the fact that ones endangered.) It's not like they're poaching tigers in the wild, they're breeding them and killing them. Just like how we farm chickens and cows for slaughter.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    The difference? One is for food (which, I understand, could be just as disgusting for non-meat eaters) and one is for 'decoration' and vanity. For one, in most countries, we still have the welfare of the animal in mind, and for the other, they are kept in the most horrific conditions. One is a 'domestic' (for lack of better word) animal, whilst the other, even in born in captivity, is a wild animal.

    And yes... apart from being a nearly extinct species.
  • You people fully don't understand drinking a tiger wine that makes viagara staying power seem like a marshmallow in a coin slot, then tossing my heroine on to a beautiful tiger skin rug for hours and hours and hours of love making. Just to revitalize with a concoction of black bear gall bladder mixed with ground up rhino horn, snorted through the hollowed out tusk of an elephan, just to go at it again for a couple of more hours. When and only when all the tigers, bears, rhinos, elephants are extinct will I substitute with man made chemicals. Not a day before.

    That story was f'n sick. Not sick as the way the kids use the term either.

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  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    It's not like they're poaching tigers in the wild, they're breeding them and killing them.

    They absolutely do poach them in the wild, roughly 5% of the 3000 wild tigers left are killed annually by poachers mainly the Chinese. There are 9 sub species of tigers 3 of which are now extinct and the south china tiger is listed as one of the top 10 most endangered animals in the world. These animals are endangered and protected but that means nothing to the Chinese.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    There are only a few wild tigers left in china - most have been killed for vanity. It is not a viable population and they will be extinct soon. My daughter is starting university in September, studying Wildlife biology & conservation and ecology. By the time she finishes her degree, the chinese tiger will most probably be extinct.

    Whatever the chinese (and other countries that have the same practices) say, these animal farms DO NOT help the conservation effort. They are not bred for potential release in the wild (but then again - habitat is being destroyed), they are not bread for behavioural study, they are not bred for conservation. They are bred for money and tourism. They are a commodity and these farms just perpetuate the notion that it's OK to use these animals as such. It does not teach anyone anything but greed and mistreatment of animals. Also teaches them it's OK to kill for that - yay for poaching...
  • tvismyfriendtvismyfriend Posts: 2,118
    It's not like they're poaching tigers in the wild, they're breeding them and killing them.

    They absolutely do poach them in the wild, roughly 5% of the 3000 wild tigers left are killed annually by poachers mainly the Chinese. There are 9 sub species of tigers 3 of which are now extinct and the south china tiger is listed as one of the top 10 most endangered animals in the world. These animals are endangered and protected but that means nothing to the Chinese.
    I'm talking about the ones in the article. These are caged animals breed for the purpose of being slaughtered. Of course tigers are still being pouched, but this is talking about farming them.
    redrock wrote:
    The difference? One is for food (which, I understand, could be just as disgusting for non-meat eaters) and one is for 'decoration' and vanity. For one, in most countries, we still have the welfare of the animal in mind, and for the other, they are kept in the most horrific conditions. One is a 'domestic' (for lack of better word) animal, whilst the other, even in born in captivity, is a wild animal.

    And yes... apart from being a nearly extinct species.
    So you would be willing to justify what they`re doing if they had them in slightly better living conditions and were selling them as tiger steaks?
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    You people fully don't understand drinking a tiger wine that makes viagara staying power seem like a marshmallow in a coin slot, then tossing my heroine on to a beautiful tiger skin rug for hours and hours and hours of love making. Just to revitalize with a concoction of black bear gall bladder mixed with ground up rhino horn, snorted through the hollowed out tusk of an elephan, just to go at it again for a couple of more hours. When and only when all the tigers, bears, rhinos, elephants are extinct will I substitute with man made chemicals. Not a day before.

    That story was f'n sick. Not sick as the way the kids use the term either.
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    yet they seem to be spiritual people with the fortune cookie type stuff & confucious
    i like old ass china but still they been expoilting tigers & rhinos & bear gall bladders for thousands of years im sure

    get a grip you stupid shits. tiger farms? are you fucking serious? i want a fucking chinese farm how about that?

    i will cage & hold captive chinese ppl in my next dream. let's see how sick & twisted it can get.
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  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    It's not like they're poaching tigers in the wild, they're breeding them and killing them.

    They absolutely do poach them in the wild, roughly 5% of the 3000 wild tigers left are killed annually by poachers mainly the Chinese. There are 9 sub species of tigers 3 of which are now extinct and the south china tiger is listed as one of the top 10 most endangered animals in the world. These animals are endangered and protected but that means nothing to the Chinese.
    I'm talking about the ones in the article. These are caged animals breed for the purpose of being slaughtered. Of course tigers are still being pouched, but this is talking about farming them.

    China is signed up to the UN Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES) which forbids international commercial trade in tiger parts and derivatives.

    The accord also calls for domestic trade prohibitions, the consolidation and destruction of stockpiles of tiger parts and products and assurances that tigers are not bred for trade in their parts and derivatives.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... skins.html
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341

    So you would be willing to justify what they`re doing if they had them in slightly better living conditions and were selling them as tiger steaks?

    No, because it is a wild animal and not a 'domestic' one. It does not adapt to 'taming'. Tigers have rarely been hunted for food, the meat often discarded (is it not good? I don't know..) Even for tigers killed in relation to the tiger/human conflict, it's not usually eaten.

    So... is it OK to hunt it in the wild for food then, you will ask? Again, not - it's near extinct and what is left most probably not a viable population. 95% of tigers have been killed since my mother was born. The rest may disappear in the next 20 years.
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    anyone anyone anyone ANYONE who kills any animal for stupid ass bullshit should be executed on sight.

    elephant, rhino, gorilla, giraffe, tiger, lion, all big cats, bear, snakes, whales, sharks & other fish & other exotics
    first...
    string up ted nugent for being a loud mouth who brags about murdering animals

    obama should hault trade with china until they can be civil towards animals. simple
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,567
    Damn why does it seem like Oriental nations just don't give a fuck about these issues at all except for those Panda bears ...
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  • guypjfreakguypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    the Chinese again ...............they eat any thing ......... :x
  • PU38569PU38569 Posts: 260
    Dear god this is horrible.
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  • electronblueelectronblue Posts: 3,460
    I couldn't even read this..just gutted at the pictures. :cry:
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    I couldn't even read this..just gutted at the pictures. :cry:
    I barely couldn't either; the first photo alone got me.

    Jarring, disturbing, heartbreaking, and utterly fucked up.
  • KM228407KM228407 Posts: 56
    hedonist wrote:
    Good god.

    Not knocking your intent for posting this (I adore tigers and all big cats), but those photos are fucking horrific.

    Maybe put a warning in the thread title?
    I agree there should be a warning...
    That is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen on the forum!
  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    There's a warning at the top of the original post but unless you're completely naive on the subject any discussion about China and animals is going to be disturbing.

    Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight.

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    I'm not playing the ostrich here, BB - I get it and know and have seen/read what China and other countries do to and with these beautiful creatures.

    Believe me, it ain't naivete that got me, it was unexpectedly seeing those photos.

    One can give a shit, even cry, and not have to see those photos to feel that way.

    Moot point by now, though.
  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    BEIJING (AP) - Chinese state media say a zoo has been asked to apologise after a video of a tamed tiger being abused on its premises caused public condemnation.

    In the video, two uniformed men are shown slapping and shaking the head of a lethargic tiger and violently jumping on its back.

    http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-ne ... c-20130507

    You can pretty much reference this quote on any story related to China and animals. :fp:

    "Did you see the thing on the news about their treatment of animals and animal welfare? Absolutely horrific. You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies."

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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    BEIJING (AP) - Chinese state media say a zoo has been asked to apologise after a video of a tamed tiger being abused on its premises caused public condemnation.

    In the video, two uniformed men are shown slapping and shaking the head of a lethargic tiger and violently jumping on its back.

    http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-ne ... c-20130507

    You can pretty much reference this quote on any story related to China and animals. :fp:

    "Did you see the thing on the news about their treatment of animals and animal welfare? Absolutely horrific. You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies."

    Morrissey


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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    i'm not going to watch it
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    BEIJING (AP) - Chinese state media say a zoo has been asked to apologise after a video of a tamed tiger being abused on its premises caused public condemnation.

    In the video, two uniformed men are shown slapping and shaking the head of a lethargic tiger and violently jumping on its back.

    http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-ne ... c-20130507

    You can pretty much reference this quote on any story related to China and animals. :fp:

    "Did you see the thing on the news about their treatment of animals and animal welfare? Absolutely horrific. You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies."

    Morrissey

    That right there is unreal, and people wonder why animals go bezerk then attack driven to this state of madness.

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  • KM228407KM228407 Posts: 56

    "Did you see the thing on the news about their treatment of animals and animal welfare? Absolutely horrific. You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies."

    Morrissey
  • Was really hoping for a tiger snap show.

    Even that beaten down beast would easily work those 2 pricks.
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  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    More than 10 tigers have been killed as "visual feasts" in China to entertain officials and rich business people, state media reported.

    Police in the port city of Zhanjiang, in the southern province of Guangdong, seized a freshly slaughtered tiger and multiple tiger products in a raid this month, said the Nanfang Daily, the mouthpiece of the provincial Communist Party.

    Local officials and prominent businesspeople gathered to watch the tigers being killed as "eye-openers" to show off their social stature, it said. Video footage of a killing two years ago showed the tiger, kept in an iron cage, having an electrified iron mass prodded into its mouth with a wooden stick and passing out after being electrocuted for more than 10 seconds, the paper said.

    An experienced cattle or pig slaughterer is normally hired to butcher the carcass, it said, adding that tiger bones sold for an average of 14,000 yuan (£1,360) a kilo while the meat fetched 1,000 yuan a kilo.

    Police said a butcher – who jumped to his death while trying to escape arrest in a raid – had killed more than 10 animals, the report on Wednesday added. "The tigers were probably anaesthetised for transport. But buyers would check them to make sure that they were alive before the killing," it quoted an unnamed source as saying.

    Most buyers of the meat and bones were business owners who would then give them to officials as gifts, the paper said.

    Tiger bones have long been an ingredient of traditional Chinese medicine, for a supposed capacity to strengthen the human body. While they have been removed from official ingredient lists, there is still deman.

    Decades of trafficking and habitat destruction have cut tiger numbers from 100,000 a century ago to about 3,000, according to the International Union for the Conservation of Nature's Red List of threatened species.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/27/tigers-killed-entertainment-guangdong-businessmen

    Fucking savages

    "Did you see the thing on the news about their treatment of animals and animal welfare? Absolutely horrific. You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies."

    Morrissey

  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    hey ... not to defend this practice ... but it's kind of hypocritical to call the Chinese a subspecies when the majority of the food production in the US is unethical and we haven't even gotten into the wars the US will start to make a buck ...

    shark fin consumption is down in china based on PR campaigns ... it's about educating the ignorant ... classifying them as subspecies serves no purpose ...
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,957
    edited March 2014
    polaris_x said:

    hey ... not to defend this practice ... but it's kind of hypocritical to call the Chinese a subspecies when the majority of the food production in the US is unethical and we haven't even gotten into the wars the US will start to make a buck ...

    shark fin consumption is down in china based on PR campaigns ... it's about educating the ignorant ... classifying them as subspecies serves no purpose ...

    Didn't read the whole thread.... kind of shocked that anyone called the Chinese a subspecies, as though the way they treat animals is caused by something in their genes. China's CULTURE is horribly flawed in some ways - they way they view animals, the way they think of money, and the value they seem to place on human life outside of their own families are the three main cultural problems that I'm aware of. And of course there are seriously fucked up things about their culture (relative to many others of course). The cultural revolution really fucked that population right up, down to the core. I know plenty of Chinese people who say the same thing.
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  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    polaris_x said:

    hey ... not to defend this practice ... but it's kind of hypocritical to call the Chinese a subspecies when the majority of the food production in the US is unethical and we haven't even gotten into the wars the US will start to make a buck ...

    shark fin consumption is down in china based on PR campaigns ... it's about educating the ignorant ... classifying them as subspecies serves no purpose ...

    The last time I checked cows, pigs and chickens weren't endangered animals. The chinese are the ones that are responsible for the loss of Tigers, Elephants and Rhinos those animals days are numbered its just a matter of when not if these animals will be extinct and no PR campaigns are going to change that.
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/S-du8M6x6R4
    maybe it was posted already, i saw where chinese zoo fuckers were abusing a tiger, i couldn't get the link to open so i found something that may be it

    http://youtu.be/S-du8M6x6R4

    these assholes should have their throttles ripped out by the tiger's claws
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
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