OPEN LETTER TO THE 10 CLUB & TIM BIERMAN TO CHANGE GA LINE

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  • austin.macrae
    austin.macrae Posts: 249
    I actually saw the Bkn2 list as I entered the door, and i took it. As a joke at the time, but I have names.

    LOL

    All of a sudden I feel very powerful.

    FWIW- I was number 23 on that list: bought a camp chair and a blanket at Target across the street, got in line at 8:30 am, and sat there until they let us in. Had a great time meeting people, taking random pictures of passers by, and napping. It was very relaxing for me, actually. Left for one bathroom break, one coffee break, and to pick up my tickets. Yes, people cut in front of me. More importantly, it was a kick ass show. I wasn't going to let those lame people bring me down for more than a minute. Whatever.

    Anyway, yeah, I had a number on my hand. I put my name on the list. I stayed in line. Other people didn't. Next time I'll try to be earlier. And there will be a next time!
  • pumpkinhead
    pumpkinhead Posts: 570
    To funny that's Appies note pad you got...we started the list. I think I was number one two....put a picture of the list on here.... :corn:
    austin.macrae wrote:
    I actually saw the Bkn2 list as I entered the door, and i took it. As a joke at the time, but I have names.

    LOL

    All of a sudden I feel very powerful.

    FWIW- I was number 23 on that list: bought a camp chair and a blanket at Target across the street, got in line at 8:30 am, and sat there until they let us in. Had a great time meeting people, taking random pictures of passers by, and napping. It was very relaxing for me, actually. Left for one bathroom break, one coffee break, and to pick up my tickets. Yes, people cut in front of me. More importantly, it was a kick ass show. I wasn't going to let those lame people bring me down for more than a minute. Whatever.

    Anyway, yeah, I had a number on my hand. I put my name on the list. I stayed in line. Other people didn't. Next time I'll try to be earlier. And there will be a next time!
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  • austin.macrae
    austin.macrae Posts: 249
    pumpkinhead wrote:
    To funny that's Appies note pad you got...we started the list. I think I was number one two....put a picture of the list on here.... :corn:

    I only took the first few pages that had names, not the whole thing, in case you came back for it :)

    I said something along the lines of, "It's as good as a setlist!"

    I don't feel right about publicizing that stuff without expressed consent. You never know who took a sick day from work or lied that they had a family emergency or something LOL (me).

    But there is one person, just one, that I am looking out for. She probably knows who she is. It was exactly as everyone says- strolled up at 6 pm rested, cute and clean and all made up. Took her place a couple in front of me. Landed dead center rail. :fp:
  • Evensteven
    Evensteven Posts: 869
    drummerboy_73 wrote:
    I can tell you firsthand this will not fly in L.A. The venue is aware this has been going on and and will not allow any type of 'numbering' system for people to come and go as they please. If you choose to engage, be prepared for disappointment.

    If you want to leave for a brief moment to use the restroom, grab some merch or refreshment, just get with the folks in line around you and I'm sure they'll be cool with it. Or, if you're with a group, make sure some other folks in your party remain in line and take turns. THAT is how GA is run.


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  • pumpkinhead
    pumpkinhead Posts: 570
    The first few people that got to ga line, got there at 4 in the morning, including me. We all took turns go back to hotel to freshening up just before we were allowed to enter the venue. Trust me the group that was first in line only left the line to fetch food, coffee, and to go to the toilet. No one just strolled up a took a spot in the ga line that wasn't there all morning...especially the first group of us.
    austin.macrae wrote:
    pumpkinhead wrote:
    To funny that's Appies note pad you got...we started the list. I think I was number one two....put a picture of the list on here.... :corn:

    I only took the first few pages that had names, not the whole thing, in case you came back for it :)

    I said something along the lines of, "It's as good as a setlist!"

    I don't feel right about publicizing that stuff without expressed consent. You never know who took a sick day from work or lied that they had a family emergency or something LOL (me).

    But there is one person, just one, that I am looking out for. She probably knows who she is. It was exactly as everyone says- strolled up at 6 pm rested, cute and clean and all made up. Took her place a couple in front of me. Landed dead center rail. :fp:
    2009 Philly Spectrum 10/28
    2010 Jazz Fest*Kansas City*St.Louis*Columbus*Noblesville*Bristow*
    Hartford*Newark*MSG1*MSG2*Dublin*Belfast*HydePark*Nijmegen*
    Berlin*WM3Little Rock*Bridge 1&2
    2011 Eddie Vedder*Chicago*St Louis*San Diego*Long Beach*Los Angles*Santa Barbara
    PJ20 1&2*Canada Tour*Montreal*Toronto 1&2*Ottawa*Hamilton*Winnipeg*
    Saskatoon*Calgary*Edmonton*Vancouver
  • appie
    appie Posts: 1,441
    pumpkinhead wrote:
    The first few people that got to ga line, got there at 4 in the morning, including me. We all took turns go back to hotel to freshening up just before we were allowed to enter the venue. Trust me the group that was first in line only left the line to fetch food, coffee, and to go to the toilet. No one just strolled up a took a spot in the ga line that wasn't there all morning...especially the first group of us.
    austin.macrae wrote:
    pumpkinhead wrote:
    To funny that's Appies note pad you got...we started the list. I think I was number one two....put a picture of the list on here.... :corn:

    I only took the first few pages that had names, not the whole thing, in case you came back for it :)

    I said something along the lines of, "It's as good as a setlist!"

    I don't feel right about publicizing that stuff without expressed consent. You never know who took a sick day from work or lied that they had a family emergency or something LOL (me).



    But there is one person, just one, that I am looking out for. She probably knows who she is. It was exactly as everyone says- strolled up at 6 pm rested, cute and clean and all made up. Took her place a couple in front of me. Landed dead center rail. :fp:


    I was there also at the same time as Pumkinhead and it was our goal from the first second to be there till entrance and we only took some moments for taking care of food ect.to get out of line..Had the best times ever meeting others members and it wasn't our earliest Ga line :) Straight from Philly 1 to entrance and spend the night there was insane :corn: :corn: :corn:
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    GA in one fucking week!!!! :D
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  • Better Dan
    Better Dan Posts: 5,684
    mfc2006 wrote:
    GA in one fucking week!!!! :D


    Nice!!! So happy for you man. You will have a blast!
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    drummerboy_73 wrote:
    I can tell you firsthand this will not fly in L.A. The venue is aware this has been going on and and will not allow any type of 'numbering' system for people to come and go as they please. If you choose to engage, be prepared for disappointment.

    If you want to leave for a brief moment to use the restroom, grab some merch or refreshment, just get with the folks in line around you and I'm sure they'll be cool with it. Or, if you're with a group, make sure some other folks in your party remain in line and take turns. THAT is how GA is run.

    Exactly! What country or planet are these folks from where you can leave your place in line and come back hours after thinking just because you have a marker on your hand and name on this list that you can come back just minutes before the doors open and go back in line up front? Try to create a list & mark folks hands waiting during Black Friday shopping here in the USA/CDN @ 5am and you will loose your arm if you try a stunt like that.

    There's no VIP line or celebrity multi pass where you can go ahead above everyone else, to a rock show via GA. The GA is for all. Everyone is & should be treated equally. But it looks like the venues & the management agreeing to this LIST are letting this go.

    They are weak & pathetic venues, security guards & management. They are running a poor business. I do hope starting from Pearl Jam's LA to Seattle show's that they know about this garbage happening and that it must stop. If you want to wait in GA, you wait like everyone else in line. You leave your line, for more then 10 minutes, you should be exited back to the end of the line.
  • Mamasan Bren
    Mamasan Bren Posts: 962
    demetrios wrote:
    drummerboy_73 wrote:
    I can tell you firsthand this will not fly in L.A. The venue is aware this has been going on and and will not allow any type of 'numbering' system for people to come and go as they please. If you choose to engage, be prepared for disappointment.

    If you want to leave for a brief moment to use the restroom, grab some merch or refreshment, just get with the folks in line around you and I'm sure they'll be cool with it. Or, if you're with a group, make sure some other folks in your party remain in line and take turns. THAT is how GA is run.

    Exactly! What country or planet are these folks from where you can leave your place in line and come back hours after thinking just because you have a marker on your hand and name on this list that you can come back just minutes before the doors open and go back in line up front? Try to create a list & mark folks hands waiting during Black Friday shopping here in the USA/CDN @ 5am and you will loose your arm if you try a stunt like that.

    There's no VIP line or celebrity multi pass where you can go ahead above everyone else, to a rock show via GA. The GA is for all. Everyone is & should be treated equally. But it looks like the venues & the management agreeing to this LIST are letting this go.

    They are weak & pathetic venues, security guards & management. They are running a poor business. I do hope starting from Pearl Jam's LA to Seattle show's that they know about this garbage happening and that it must stop. If you want to wait in GA, you wait like everyone else in line. You leave your line, for more then 10 minutes, you should be exited back to the end of the line.


    Bravo, D.
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  • Corduroyboy
    Corduroyboy Posts: 1,256
    There was none of this list bullshit in 2006 for GA. Seems for the most part everyone is on the same page for GA now. Nobody with a sharpie number on their hand will be cutting in front of me, or my Kung fu yielding friend!!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    It sounds like all this kerfuffle is about maybe 5 assholes per line at most (I'm not even sure I'm convinced this shit is happening 99% of the time... mostly seems like there are some misunderstandings going on). Worth worrying about? I don't think so.
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    austin.macrae wrote:
    But there is one person, just one, that I am looking out for. She probably knows who she is. It was exactly as everyone says- strolled up at 6 pm rested, cute and clean and all made up. Took her place a couple in front of me. Landed dead center rail. :fp:

    She would fit this description, but she's a woman. D'oh!

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  • dimitrispearljam
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    mfc2006 wrote:
    GA in one fucking week!!!! :D
    Epic!!!
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    So who are these people running the list?
    Call em out!
    Im sure they are board members, right?

    Fuck those people! And yes, call them out. The list is complete bullshit. Wait till the first punch is thrown and then we'll see how the list disappears. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.
  • Mamasan Bren
    Mamasan Bren Posts: 962
    badbrains wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    So who are these people running the list?
    Call em out!
    Im sure they are board members, right?

    Fuck those people! And yes, call them out. The list is complete bullshit. Wait till the first punch is thrown and then we'll see how the list disappears. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.

    I fear this too. People obviously love this group more than life itself at times. People are passionate about their vacation PJ concert experiences. I agree with others that it is perhaps only a matter of time before something bad (dare we say tragic?) happens due to the list encouraging people to get out of waiting and returning with self-proclaimed entitlement to have their spot back (which is definitely unfair to those that truly wait).
    1/95 DC 7/95 Chicago Tor Tol Cha 96 AlpV I II Chi St L KC 98 BSB I II 99 Phx Vegas Fresno SBern 00 BSB I II 01 (met ed) Vegas Phx Fargo St. Paul Chicago Alpine V Indy Col Virg Phi I II MSG I II (got on DVD!) 03 Calg 05 Clev Vegas LA I II SBar 06 Lon Dus Cop Nij Bel 07 Phi I II DC MSG I II Har BOS I II 08, LA3/4, SD '09, MSG I II '10, Missoula, London ONT, Wrigley, SD, LA1/2, Portland. Wrigley '16 I and II. 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    Mamasan Bren wrote:
    badbrains wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    So who are these people running the list?
    Call em out!
    Im sure they are board members, right?

    Fuck those people! And yes, call them out. The list is complete bullshit. Wait till the first punch is thrown and then we'll see how the list disappears. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.

    I fear this too. People obviously love this group more than life itself at times. People are passionate about their vacation PJ concert experiences. I agree with others that it is perhaps only a matter of time before something bad (dare we say tragic?) happens due to the list encouraging people to get out of waiting and returning with self-proclaimed entitlement to have their spot back (which is definitely unfair to those that truly wait).
    I think it's ludicrous and, frankly, disingenuous and perhap manipulative to suggest that this could become dangerous or tragic. Come on. If a punch EVER gets thrown, security, who are always there at the line, would jump on whoever threw the punch, ban them from the venue, and the incident would be over.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Mamasan Bren
    Mamasan Bren Posts: 962
    Fuck those people! And yes, call them out. The list is complete bullshit. Wait till the first punch is thrown and then we'll see how the list disappears. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.[/quote]

    I fear this too. People obviously love this group more than life itself at times. People are passionate about their vacation PJ concert experiences. I agree with others that it is perhaps only a matter of time before something bad (dare we say tragic?) happens due to the list encouraging people to get out of waiting and returning with self-proclaimed entitlement to have their spot back (which is definitely unfair to those that truly wait).[/quote]
    I think it's ludicrous and, frankly, disingenuous and perhap manipulative to suggest that this could become dangerous or tragic. Come on. If a punch EVER gets thrown, security, who are always there at the line, would jump on whoever threw the punch, ban them from the venue, and the incident would be over.[/quote]

    Yes. Let's hope tempers don't flare.
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  • MG79478
    MG79478 Posts: 1,727
    PP193448 wrote:
    Of course that's just gonna lead to more whining like what's been done about the lottery.

    We only have a lottery because of whining about F5.
  • shortstack
    shortstack Posts: 2,339
    MG79478 wrote:
    PP193448 wrote:
    Of course that's just gonna lead to more whining like what's been done about the lottery.

    We only have a lottery because of whining about F5.

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    did you see me? i saw you.

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