THE LINE & "THE LIST"

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  • Mamasan Bren
    Mamasan Bren Posts: 960
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    walk in 7:2- pm..was easy,safe,was like 10 rows back,could go easily to row 2-3,no pushing,no presure back there at 10th row,space to dance,all great!!
    double check,double wristbands,great job from club and the venue..


    Agree. Went in way late. Was fine about 20 rows back, Jeff spot. After delay, ended up dead center about 5th "row". Got to be a few feet away from those lifting up Ed. Great night. Totally fun.
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Mamasan Bren wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    walk in 7:20- pm..was easy,safe,was like 10 rows back,could go easily to row 2-3,no pushing,no presure back there at 10th row,space to dance,all great!!
    double check,double wristbands,great job from club and the venue..


    Agree. Went in way late. Was fine about 20 rows back, Jeff spot. After delay, ended up dead center about 5th "row". Got to be a few feet away from those lifting up Ed. Great night. Totally fun.
    after the delay..i went exactly to the same spot.mike side at the barrier...and next to me was a woman,like 65 year old..maybe more..was rocking at the songs!!that was awesome!!!
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,705
    shortstack wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Why not just devise a system where people get a number on a first come first serve basis, and EVERYONE then takes off until half an hour before the doors open.

    kinda sounds like seniority or f5....
    How??? I'm talking about the fans making a list where no one has to stay and sit around. I don't understand what you mean.
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  • Mamasan Bren
    Mamasan Bren Posts: 960
    OK, so, 2 shows in on this current fall tour.....what's it been like? Were there any Adolph Listlers at either or both?
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Mamasan Bren wrote:
    OK, so, 2 shows in on this current fall tour.....what's it been like? Were there any Adolph Listlers at either or both?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeX-Wh7_5uk

    easy to see how better is GA at a pj show..fuckin party
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  • Mamasan Bren
    Mamasan Bren Posts: 960
    Yes, that is always sweet. GA definitely rocking and imo the true way to experience them.

    But how has the wait been? Are there people controlling lists that allow people to abuse it by coming and going as they please? Are there people doing the "let me just write a number on your arm with this here magic marker" thing?
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  • Kimmiebyrom
    Kimmiebyrom Posts: 1,832
    I'm just gonna put it out there that I hope there's a list and numbered hands in Dallas so we are free to roam until an hour or so before gates open. That'd be nice.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,494
    Kimmiebyrom wrote:
    I'm just gonna put it out there that I hope there's a list and numbered hands in Dallas so we are free to roam until an hour or so before gates open. That'd be nice.
    That's bullshit.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Kimmiebyrom
    Kimmiebyrom Posts: 1,832
    Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
    Kimmiebyrom wrote:
    I'm just gonna put it out there that I hope there's a list and numbered hands in Dallas so we are free to roam until an hour or so before gates open. That'd be nice.
    That's bullshit.

    Why is it bullshit? I mean, I'll roll with whatever happens and be happy about it 'cause hey, it's GA.
    I used to belong to the whole line up at 7am and wait all day thing, but if you're free for a few hours that's kinda nice sounding, actually. But oh well. To each his own!
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,705
    Kimmiebyrom wrote:
    Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
    Kimmiebyrom wrote:
    I'm just gonna put it out there that I hope there's a list and numbered hands in Dallas so we are free to roam until an hour or so before gates open. That'd be nice.
    That's bullshit.

    Why is it bullshit? I mean, I'll roll with whatever happens and be happy about it 'cause hey, it's GA.
    I used to belong to the whole line up at 7am and wait all day thing, but if you're free for a few hours that's kinda nice sounding, actually. But oh well. To each his own!
    I think people can enter for GA at every gate at every show on the tour, so I really don't see how a GA line with numbers and a list and everything will do people much good in the end.
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  • nevmiles
    nevmiles Ottawa, ON Posts: 1,363
    Mamasan Bren wrote:
    Yes, that is always sweet. GA definitely rocking and imo the true way to experience them.

    But how has the wait been? Are there people controlling lists that allow people to abuse it by coming and going as they please? Are there people doing the "let me just write a number on your arm with this here magic marker" thing?

    They had a "list & numbers" in the line I was at in Buffalo. Don't think they marked anyone past about the first 10 people. I was 15th/20th in line and didn't get a number. Everyone was honest & nice about it around me .. people came and went and were let back in where they had been waiting. . . . but as I said, it meant nothing once you got in past security and they let everyone in up to the gates/ropes where they scanned your ticket. Sure, getting there early allowed you to get to the gates inside the pavillion much more quickly, but it was a bit of a crapshoot.
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    nevmiles wrote:

    They had a "list & numbers" in the line I was at in Buffalo. Don't think they marked anyone past about the first 10 people. I was 15th/20th in line and didn't get a number. Everyone was honest & nice about it around me .. people came and went and were let back in where they had been waiting. . . . but as I said, it meant nothing once you got in past security and they let everyone in up to the gates/ropes where they scanned your ticket. Sure, getting there early allowed you to get to the gates inside the pavillion much more quickly, but it was a bit of a crapshoot.

    question..how u felt during Baba at GA...?? did the energy hit u?? :)
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  • Kimmiebyrom
    Kimmiebyrom Posts: 1,832
    Glad I can roll with whatever. As long as I'm there, close Mike, I'll be a happy camper.
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  • Mamasan Bren
    Mamasan Bren Posts: 960
    Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
    Kimmiebyrom wrote:
    I'm just gonna put it out there that I hope there's a list and numbered hands in Dallas so we are free to roam until an hour or so before gates open. That'd be nice.
    That's bullshit.

    Agreed.


    So, you run and touch a spot first, then get to enjoy the day doing no waiting, and are entitled to come strolling in anytime for your saved GA rail experience? Gimme a break. If it's worth the wait, then do the wait the right way. Drop the List, Drop the List....
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  • Mamasan Bren
    Mamasan Bren Posts: 960
    And as far as this: "I think people can enter for GA at every gate at every show on the tour, so I really don't see how a GA line with numbers and a list and everything will do people much good in the end." Didn't PJ's official Twitter profile just do a tweet for the last show about the designated GA entrance? Whereas the other show before that was any and all entrance free for all, no?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,705
    Mamasan Bren wrote:
    Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
    Kimmiebyrom wrote:
    I'm just gonna put it out there that I hope there's a list and numbered hands in Dallas so we are free to roam until an hour or so before gates open. That'd be nice.
    That's bullshit.

    Agreed.


    So, you run and touch a spot first, then get to enjoy the day doing no waiting, and are entitled to come strolling in anytime for your saved GA rail experience? Gimme a break. If it's worth the wait, then do the wait the right way. Drop the List, Drop the List....
    Why doesn't everyone in the line do that, then no one would feel ripped off. It's like the people in the line simply want to suffer for no reason.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,705
    Mamasan Bren wrote:
    And as far as this: "I think people can enter for GA at every gate at every show on the tour, so I really don't see how a GA line with numbers and a list and everything will do people much good in the end." Didn't PJ's official Twitter profile just do a tweet for the last show about the designated GA entrance? Whereas the other show before that was any and all entrance free for all, no?
    I dunno. Everyone got this info in their final ticket confirmation emails though, and I think most of them say that GA entrance is at every door.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Mamasan Bren
    Mamasan Bren Posts: 960
    edited October 2013
    "Why doesn't everyone in the line do that, then no one would feel ripped off. It's like the people in the line simply want to suffer for no reason.[/quote]"

    It's not that they want to suffer, it's that they're waiting in line for something they feel is worth waiting for. The problem becomes when someone waits a long ass time in line, but they don't get the rail because someone else dropped their name on a list and then spent the day doing whatever they want. That's where the unfairness of these lists comes in. If you go touch a wall at 9 am and sign the list, and then spend your day off enjoying yourself, why should you be able to stroll back into the front of the line, in front of others who waited all day, right before gates open?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,705
    Mamasan Bren wrote:
    "Why doesn't everyone in the line do that, then no one would feel ripped off. It's like the people in the line simply want to suffer for no reason.
    "

    It's not that they want to suffer, it's that they're waiting in line for something they feel is worth waiting for. The problem becomes when someone waits a long ass time in line, but they don't get the rail because someone else dropped their name on a list and then spent the day doing whatever they want. That's where the unfairness of these lists comes in. If you go touch a wall at 9 am sign the list, and then spend your day off enjoying yourself, why should you be able to stroll back into the front of the line, in front of others who waited all day, right before gates open?[/quote]

    Doesn't make any sense. If there is a possible way to not sit there wasting time in a line, then people - EVERYONE - should do it, not just wait out of principle. There shouldn't be anyone waiting in line, and then there wouldn't be any unfairness. The way it's done now is totally illogical.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    just to let some of u to know,i did it in the past,i dont do it now(,even i spent alot of hours,out of the venue,chating with friends,but i dont get number or wait in the line anymore)
    but people in the line having fun
    they chat ,they meet eachother,having a drink,share,help eachother.
    isnt like you are in an airport alone,your flight has a delay and wait 10 hours alone
    ,spenting time with other fans from all over the world .its fuckin unique experience
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”

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