Sirens to Be Next Single From LB

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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    I always like songs with no real "chorus".

    Black
    immortality
    unthought known
    corduroy
    etc

    Much more interesting to me
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    mca47 wrote:

    I can't wait for the crowd to sing "Lightning booooolllllllt" in unison as they do with Alive, Why Go. Oh wait, that'll never happen. :lol:

    If that song were 23 years old and as well known as the songs on Ten, it would most definitely happen. It's just a newer song, which I refuse to prejudge without, you know, hearing it clearly on a studio album. As opposed to making determinations off of the first time it is ever played in public. But I'm a nut like that. I belong in an asylum.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Also: "It's my blood. It's my blood. It's my blood."

    And also: Whatever you think the lyrics are to the chorus of Given to Fly.

    Did you write Lightning Bolt or something?

    Fuck. I wish.
    I don't think they are saying it is a bad song, it just doesn't click for some reason. I like the way AltNation reviewed this song. "A song Ed could write in his sleep". That is how I feel about it.

    That's fine. I just thought the criticism that the chorus only has two words was a weird criticism of a band that has a lot of simple choruses -- and some songs with really no chorus --- throughout its catalogue.

    "I really like that song where the chorus is a guy screaming 'It's my blood" over and over, but not the one where he sings 'lightning bolt' over and over because it's too simple." Just a weird criticism to me.

    On top of that, I'm growing weary in general of the nitpicking apart of an album that 99 percent of us on this board have yet to even hear properly.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,301
    slightofjeff wrote:
    On top of that, I'm growing weary in general of the nitpicking apart of an album that 99 percent of us on this board have yet to even hear properly.

    I think part of it is the band has been around 22 years. Some fans are still in the stage where everything PJ releases is great to them, and for some that feeling has faded. I literally loved every song through Yield (including B-sides, covers, anything I could get my hands on). I LOVED Bugs and still know all the lyrics 15 years later when I rarely hear the song. Somehow that faded away. Damn you Breakerfall! ha.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    On top of that, I'm growing weary in general of the nitpicking apart of an album that 99 percent of us on this board have yet to even hear properly.

    I think part of it is the band has been around 22 years. Some fans are still in the stage where everything PJ releases is great to them, and for some that feeling has faded. I literally loved every song through Yield (including B-sides, covers, anything I could get my hands on). I LOVED Bugs and still know all the lyrics 15 years later when I rarely hear the song. Somehow that faded away. Damn you Breakerfall! ha.

    I've addressed this elsewhere, but I feel like much of that fading feeling with some fans has to do with their expectation level. For some reason, some people seem to think their 1000th kiss should be as electric as their first. And when it isn't, they are disappointed.

    It's highly unlikely that Pearl Jam -- or any band, really -- is going to write something epic and life-altering in its 22nd year of existence. The best it's really fair to hope for from an album at this stage are a collection of songs that will hold up well enough in the live show, and maybe -- maybe -- one or two song that connect on a deeper level.

    Personally, Pearl Jam has delivered that to me with each album.

    Those first few Pearl Jam albums were like the first kiss of a whirlwind romance for most of us. It doesn't make sense to expect that same fervor 20 something years later. I love my wife now just as much as I did when we met 14 years ago, but it's not that "first kiss, all-consuming puppy love" kind of feeling that it was for the first few months we dated. And it would be unfair for me to expect it to be the same.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • TJ25487
    TJ25487 Posts: 1,501
    slightofjeff wrote:
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    On top of that, I'm growing weary in general of the nitpicking apart of an album that 99 percent of us on this board have yet to even hear properly.

    I think part of it is the band has been around 22 years. Some fans are still in the stage where everything PJ releases is great to them, and for some that feeling has faded. I literally loved every song through Yield (including B-sides, covers, anything I could get my hands on). I LOVED Bugs and still know all the lyrics 15 years later when I rarely hear the song. Somehow that faded away. Damn you Breakerfall! ha.

    I've addressed this elsewhere, but I feel like much of that fading feeling with some fans has to do with their expectation level. For some reason, some people seem to think their 1000th kiss should be as electric as their first. And when it isn't, they are disappointed.

    It's highly unlikely that Pearl Jam -- or any band, really -- is going to write something epic and life-altering in its 22nd year of existence. The best it's really fair to hope for from an album at this stage are a collection of songs that will hold up well enough in the live show, and maybe -- maybe -- one or two song that connect on a deeper level.

    Personally, Pearl Jam has delivered that to me with each album.

    Those first few Pearl Jam albums were like the first kiss of a whirlwind romance for most of us. It doesn't make sense to expect that same fervor 20 something years later. I love my wife now just as much as I did when we met 14 years ago, but it's not that "first kiss, all-consuming puppy love" kind of feeling that it was for the first few months we dated. And it would be unfair for me to expect it to be the same.

    Well said my friend. Well said.
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,348
    slightofjeff wrote:
    mca47 wrote:

    I can't wait for the crowd to sing "Lightning booooolllllllt" in unison as they do with Alive, Why Go. Oh wait, that'll never happen. :lol:

    If that song were 23 years old and as well known as the songs on Ten, it would most definitely happen. It's just a newer song, which I refuse to prejudge without, you know, hearing it clearly on a studio album. As opposed to making determinations off of the first time it is ever played in public. But I'm a nut like that. I belong in an asylum.
    The reaction of me and everyone around me at Wrigley when Light-Ning Booooooolllllt was played.

    :clap:
    :D
    :D
    :|
    :fp:
    :)
    :D
    :|
    :fp:
    :)
    :D
    :clap:
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,324
    slightofjeff wrote:
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    On top of that, I'm growing weary in general of the nitpicking apart of an album that 99 percent of us on this board have yet to even hear properly.

    I think part of it is the band has been around 22 years. Some fans are still in the stage where everything PJ releases is great to them, and for some that feeling has faded. I literally loved every song through Yield (including B-sides, covers, anything I could get my hands on). I LOVED Bugs and still know all the lyrics 15 years later when I rarely hear the song. Somehow that faded away. Damn you Breakerfall! ha.
    I've addressed this elsewhere, but I feel like much of that fading feeling with some fans has to do with their expectation level. For some reason, some people seem to think their 1000th kiss should be as electric as their first. And when it isn't, they are disappointed.

    It's highly unlikely that Pearl Jam -- or any band, really -- is going to write something epic and life-altering in its 22nd year of existence. The best it's really fair to hope for from an album at this stage are a collection of songs that will hold up well enough in the live show, and maybe-- maybe -- one or two song that xpect it to be the same.

    Neil?
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • duccivespucci_2
    duccivespucci_2 Posts: 83
    slightofjeff wrote:
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    On top of that, I'm growing weary in general of the nitpicking apart of an album that 99 percent of us on this board have yet to even hear properly.

    I think part of it is the band has been around 22 years. Some fans are still in the stage where everything PJ releases is great to them, and for some that feeling has faded. I literally loved every song through Yield (including B-sides, covers, anything I could get my hands on). I LOVED Bugs and still know all the lyrics 15 years later when I rarely hear the song. Somehow that faded away. Damn you Breakerfall! ha.

    I've addressed this elsewhere, but I feel like much of that fading feeling with some fans has to do with their expectation level. For some reason, some people seem to think their 1000th kiss should be as electric as their first. And when it isn't, they are disappointed.

    It's highly unlikely that Pearl Jam -- or any band, really -- is going to write something epic and life-altering in its 22nd year of existence. The best it's really fair to hope for from an album at this stage are a collection of songs that will hold up well enough in the live show, and maybe -- maybe -- one or two song that connect on a deeper level.

    Personally, Pearl Jam has delivered that to me with each album.

    Those first few Pearl Jam albums were like the first kiss of a whirlwind romance for most of us. It doesn't make sense to expect that same fervor 20 something years later. I love my wife now just as much as I did when we met 14 years ago, but it's not that "first kiss, all-consuming puppy love" kind of feeling that it was for the first few months we dated. And it would be unfair for me to expect it to be the same.


    Perfectly said, great use of a metaphor to explain your point and to explain the human mind. I might use that, hope that's ok.
  • bigbadbill
    bigbadbill Posts: 1,758
    But then again, who here likes Top Ramen?
    11/6/95, 11/18/97, 7/13/98, 7/14/98, 10/24/00, 10/25/00, 10/28/00, 6/2/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 7/6/06, 7/7/06, 7/9/06, 7/10/06, 7/13/06, 7/15/06, 7/16/06, 7/18/06, 10/21/06, 4/10/08, 4/13/08, 9/30/09, 10/1/09, 10/6/09, 10/7/09, 10/9/09
  • RedMosquito02
    RedMosquito02 Posts: 2,560
    slightofjeff wrote:
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    On top of that, I'm growing weary in general of the nitpicking apart of an album that 99 percent of us on this board have yet to even hear properly.

    I think part of it is the band has been around 22 years. Some fans are still in the stage where everything PJ releases is great to them, and for some that feeling has faded. I literally loved every song through Yield (including B-sides, covers, anything I could get my hands on). I LOVED Bugs and still know all the lyrics 15 years later when I rarely hear the song. Somehow that faded away. Damn you Breakerfall! ha.

    I've addressed this elsewhere, but I feel like much of that fading feeling with some fans has to do with their expectation level. For some reason, some people seem to think their 1000th kiss should be as electric as their first. And when it isn't, they are disappointed.

    It's highly unlikely that Pearl Jam -- or any band, really -- is going to write something epic and life-altering in its 22nd year of existence. The best it's really fair to hope for from an album at this stage are a collection of songs that will hold up well enough in the live show, and maybe -- maybe -- one or two song that connect on a deeper level.

    Personally, Pearl Jam has delivered that to me with each album.

    Those first few Pearl Jam albums were like the first kiss of a whirlwind romance for most of us. It doesn't make sense to expect that same fervor 20 something years later. I love my wife now just as much as I did when we met 14 years ago, but it's not that "first kiss, all-consuming puppy love" kind of feeling that it was for the first few months we dated. And it would be unfair for me to expect it to be the same.
    Great analogy :D
    33...
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    slightofjeff wrote:
    I've addressed this elsewhere, but I feel like much of that fading feeling with some fans has to do with their expectation level. For some reason, some people seem to think their 1000th kiss should be as electric as their first. And when it isn't, they are disappointed.

    It's highly unlikely that Pearl Jam -- or any band, really -- is going to write something epic and life-altering in its 22nd year of existence. The best it's really fair to hope for from an album at this stage are a collection of songs that will hold up well enough in the live show, and maybe -- maybe -- one or two song that connect on a deeper level.

    Personally, Pearl Jam has delivered that to me with each album.

    Those first few Pearl Jam albums were like the first kiss of a whirlwind romance for most of us. It doesn't make sense to expect that same fervor 20 something years later. I love my wife now just as much as I did when we met 14 years ago, but it's not that "first kiss, all-consuming puppy love" kind of feeling that it was for the first few months we dated. And it would be unfair for me to expect it to be the same.

    I don't think that's the case and I don't agree with the analogy. I think it just comes down to the perceived quality of the piece of music. There are always gonna be people that love whatever PJ puts out, but then there are those that are gonna wait and decide. I personally fall somewhere in the middle.

    Now, there aren't many examples of bands that have been around as long as PJ putting out anything, let alone, great, life changing albums. I just don't think they should be graded on a curve just b/c they've put out great albums in the past. QOTSA and Wilco are 2 bands that have put out some of their best work with their latest albums and maybe they're not quite as deep into their runs as PJ, they've been around a long time.

    For me, the most recent kiss can/should be as good as the first and I'll continue to be hopeful of that with Lightning Bolt.
  • pleatherman
    pleatherman Posts: 472
    This is going to be a total presumptuous statement on my part, if only because it is based on nothing more than a few reviews by fans who've heard the album once. The impression I get from those initial reactions is that Lightning Bolt is a cross between tradition and innovation. It will contain the stuff this band can naturally do and another group of songs that will mark uncharted territory for them.

    Of course, now I've gone completely off topic- back to Sirens. It makes total sense this would be the next single, even if there wasn't a source to confirm that. Obviously because Brendan thinks it is one of their best is a good reason. Also, having MYM as the first single is a way to reintroduce themselves as a hard-hitting rock band before unveiling a more listener-friendly single, like Sirens. Again, this total conjecture from someone (me) who has only read articles on the subject. I'm just counting the days...
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    mca47 wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    mca47 wrote:

    I can't wait for the crowd to sing "Lightning booooolllllllt" in unison as they do with Alive, Why Go. Oh wait, that'll never happen. :lol:

    If that song were 23 years old and as well known as the songs on Ten, it would most definitely happen. It's just a newer song, which I refuse to prejudge without, you know, hearing it clearly on a studio album. As opposed to making determinations off of the first time it is ever played in public. But I'm a nut like that. I belong in an asylum.
    The reaction of me and everyone around me at Wrigley when Light-Ning Booooooolllllt was played.

    :clap:
    :D
    :D
    :|
    :fp:
    :)
    :D
    :|
    :fp:
    :)
    :D
    :clap:

    Fun guys.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • PU38569
    PU38569 Posts: 260
    Danimal_Fweeka wrote:
    I really liked the verses but the chorus just seems lazy to me.


    LB's chorus is lazy non-powerful uninteresting generic fast-food
    This is a birthday pony
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    PU38569 wrote:
    Danimal_Fweeka wrote:
    I really liked the verses but the chorus just seems lazy to me.

    LB's chorus is lazy non-powerful uninteresting generic fast-food

    Again, I'm not really sure we'd call that a chorus. Pearl Jam writes a lot of songs without a proper chorus. It's an artistic decision. And it's fine.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Danimal_Fweeka
    Danimal_Fweeka Posts: 54
    I noticed i'm being quoted for something i didn't say lol. As a matter of fact i'm pro "Lightning Boooolllt!" for the chorus haha :) I mentioned that on the first page of this forum but for some reason i'm quoted saying: "i really liked the verses but the chorus seemed lazy to me."

    Unless....it's my evil half brother hacking my profile again. He's a card. Hiding the remote and crap. Sick bastard.

    Alas, the first Lightning Bolt conspiracy was born.
    One man stands alone, awaiting, for her to come home.
    Eyes are closed,.. You cannot know.
    But his heart don't seem to roam.
  • cosmik
    cosmik Posts: 41
    Tuesdays gonna be great for everybody
  • SomethingCreative
    SomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,418
    cosmik wrote:
    Tuesdays gonna be great for everybody


    oh yeah? :P
    "Well, I think this band is incapable of sucking."
    -my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    SomethingCreative wrote:
    cosmik wrote:
    Tuesdays gonna be great for everybody


    oh yeah? :P

    It's the 10th of the month. Tuesday the 10th.
    Which only means one thing.
    The new PJ newsletter!

    :D
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