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Was Wrigley Just Above Average (B+) for Anyone?
Probably blasted for this but I was just curious with all of the positive responses about the concert if people thought it was just a "good show." Between the heat, rain delay, shortened set list, and difficulty getting out of the venue afterward I really wasn't as into it as much as I thought I would be. The set list that was played was good and the band sounded great, but I just felt like there was too many detractors to place it in an epic category ala the Gorge, PJ20, the Garden, the Experiment, etc. I realize these are mostly out of band control but for me personally it wasn't in my top 3 out of the 15 I've been to.
95-Milwaukee, 98-East Troy, 00-East Troy, 03-Detroit Nights 1 and 2, 03-Toronto, 04-Grand Rapids, 05-Kitchener, 06-Cincinnati, 06-Auburn Hills, 10-New Orleans, 10-Kansas City, 11-PJ20 Nights 1 and 2, 13-Chicago, 14- Moline, 16-Chicago Nights 1 and 2, 18-Seattle Nights 1 and 2, Chicago Night 1, 21-Ohana Encore Night 1 and 2, 22-Imola, St. Louis.
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the rain delay was awesome.
Definitely part of it. Had to work late the night before and travel the day of show. I usually have 1-2 beers at the show but had around 4. Not a huge deal given the time span but the delay took up a lot of juice.
95-Milwaukee, 98-East Troy, 00-East Troy, 03-Detroit Nights 1 and 2, 03-Toronto, 04-Grand Rapids, 05-Kitchener, 06-Cincinnati, 06-Auburn Hills, 10-New Orleans, 10-Kansas City, 11-PJ20 Nights 1 and 2, 13-Chicago, 14- Moline, 16-Chicago Nights 1 and 2, 18-Seattle Nights 1 and 2, Chicago Night 1, 21-Ohana Encore Night 1 and 2, 22-Imola, St. Louis.
Yeah, i was in the pit. Just a whole different vibe around me after the rain than before. I think the show wouldve been pretty high on the list for me had we not had the weather situation. Still thankful to have been there though.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
That's about where I put myself feelingwise, although wasn't in the pit.
95-Milwaukee, 98-East Troy, 00-East Troy, 03-Detroit Nights 1 and 2, 03-Toronto, 04-Grand Rapids, 05-Kitchener, 06-Cincinnati, 06-Auburn Hills, 10-New Orleans, 10-Kansas City, 11-PJ20 Nights 1 and 2, 13-Chicago, 14- Moline, 16-Chicago Nights 1 and 2, 18-Seattle Nights 1 and 2, Chicago Night 1, 21-Ohana Encore Night 1 and 2, 22-Imola, St. Louis.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
With the rain delay and the anxiety about the pit since there was no info about lining up and then the mad rush when the barriers were randomly opened without any official announcement after the rain delay (and me fearing for my safety for the first time since my first PJ show in 2000) bumped it down to a B-.
However, the experiences that cannot be quantified or ever repeated, such as being able to share the rail on Mike's side with my ticket buddy who was on the rail for the first time since following them from day 1 was magical. I also had posted in the fanviews thread too, the folks lining up early for GA with the hopes of possibly getting on the rail were some of the best display of PJ camaraderie I've ever seen. A+
literally 5 hours in line for posters. (not the bands fault, wrigley staff was not prepared)
3 hour rain delay with no beer or water on the field and they would not let me in anywhere else as it was full. (not the bands fault)
absolutely crushed tired from travel, heat, excitement, walking/standing 12 hours. (not the bands fault)
I guess what im trying to say is i just wish i played my cards differently knowing now what i didnt know that day.
slightly disapointed mostly in how Wrigley handled things NOT PEARL JAM. still glad i went though!
overall experience was something i'll never forget and neither will anyone who was there. most of that experience will not be able to hold up on tape.
i can see people who weren't there hating on this gig. it wasn't like msg 1 03 where anyone will acknowledge its greatness
It wasn't the show we spent months expecting and it wasn't the show at Wrigley Ed wanted it so badly to be. You could see it in his face and hear the sincerity in his voice when he said goodnight.
It was a very long day and probably felt even longer for those of us in the pit. The atmosphere never returned after the delay.
That being said, I love this band even more after that night. You know they were tired too but you could feel their commitment to us. They came out and killed it, song after song and their energy was incredible. I am lucky to say I was one off the rail, directly in front of Mike and he was on a mission to give us 110% and he was nothing short of on fire. They all were. Great to see the banter and laughter between him and Jeff.
We'll never know what the show could have been but I'm thankful my favorite band made it a priority to give us everything they had. And for that Wrigley gets an A+
After PJ20 and this I will NEVER see PJ outdoors again.
-Christopher Walken
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your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
Just curious what you didn't like about PJ20? Was it the weather? As opposed to Wrigley, I thought that was epic. Although my complaint would be too many special guests (or more likely not the guests I was hoping for )
95-Milwaukee, 98-East Troy, 00-East Troy, 03-Detroit Nights 1 and 2, 03-Toronto, 04-Grand Rapids, 05-Kitchener, 06-Cincinnati, 06-Auburn Hills, 10-New Orleans, 10-Kansas City, 11-PJ20 Nights 1 and 2, 13-Chicago, 14- Moline, 16-Chicago Nights 1 and 2, 18-Seattle Nights 1 and 2, Chicago Night 1, 21-Ohana Encore Night 1 and 2, 22-Imola, St. Louis.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
And, I was up at 4am Friday to catch my flight. So it was a loooooooong day. Not the band's fault, obviously. But there was definitely a drop in energy level for myself and most of the crowd after the delay.
Plus, ED was wasted after the delay. He could barely talk, and screwed up a few songs.
I'll still give it a B though.
It was definitely one of my top shows, and way above average. But yea it was tiring for us in the pit. I lined up around 1 (earlier for others) and hung out in the sun all day (which was awesome), then stood once we got let in and then the extra 2 1/2 hours just shredded me. I would have had plenty of energy if they played straight through like a normal show.
Once I got back in I still had a lot of energy, but there's no denying everyone in the ballpark (pit especially) was not like they would have been had the band played straight through til 11:30-12. No one thought or was prepared to be up until 2 that night and the long break killed the "buzz".
I also agree with the comment that this show (while amazing for me and totally worth the trip from MA), was not what it was suppose to be. I think all who looked forward to it for so long and traveled far to get there felt a little empty after. But it could have been much worse if they cancelled it and after all its not in anyones control.
Can't wait to relive it on the DVD. I think we all earned it.
2009 - 8/21,10/30, 10/31
2010 - 5/15, 5/17, 5/20, 5/21
2011 - 9/3/11, 9/4, 9/11, 9/12, 9/14
2012 - 9/2
2013 - 7/19, 10/15, 10/16, 10/19, 10/25
2014 - 6/16. 6/17, 6/20, 10/1
EV solo 8.1.08, 6.8.09, 6.15.11, 6.16.11
1) From what I read, giving the circumstance of the rain delay, the band was still determined to give us what we paid for, and they did. No, it was not the epic 3+ hour show it clearly was supposed to be (see the setlist shirt). But for them to come out & play the way they did from 12-2 was phenomenal in my opinion, and like so many others have said, I can't really think of many bands that would do that.
2) The last time I heard 10 new PJ songs live was 13 years / 7 shows ago. Sure, I would have replaced some songs with others, but I've come to accept I will never ever get my dream set, so I'll take what I can get. I absolutely loved this setlist.
When all is said & done I got two white whales at Wrigley: Present Tense and All Night (the latter of which totally gave me faith that they were there to play and we were in for a long set). Mother put a tear in my eye, and I'm pretty excited to have been in the first crowd to hear 2 of their new songs. I can't say that's ever happened to me before. (at least with PJ)
3) The other 10 clubbers. I absolutely love talking to the other members & finding out where they are from & just sharing stories of other shows & life in general. They made waiting in a line on Friday bearable. The people in section 104 were awesome (thanks to the guys from Cincinnati in row 13 who shared their smoke, and then gave us advice to secure a good spot underneath, thanks to you we had comfortable spots to sit under cover) not too mention all the people we met at the bars on Thursday & Friday. I never got more than first names, but I sincerely enjoy this part of traveling to see PJ. I've traveled to Montreal, Philly & now Chicago & every interaction with other 10 clubbers at these shows has been overwhelmingly positive.
I could go on about the uniqueness of Wrigley, (my first time there) and a couple other points, but I don't need to. The first three points alone are enough to make it an A show for me. The rain delay & 2 hour walk after the show keep it from being an A+, but they are not enough to detract THAT much from everything else that went down for me over the course of those two days.
I look at the circumstances and saw the bands faces when they came back on. They wanted to give back to the fans, and did.
This show could have been the best they ever did, it still was one of the best that they ever did because of the situation and execution.
Who plays in a stadium til' 2 am? Who fills the stadium with a HUGE amount of 10c's? Who else would embrace a fellow 10C member and acknowledge their partners passing(hoosier and Sarah)?!?
I was only worried that it was going to end...
Great show!
He said and I'm paraphrasing 'we only have 5 more minutes and we gotta call it a night, we want to keep playing through tomorrow but theres other acts that want to play here, we cant fuck it up for them.' And with another show being Saturday, it was selfless to pull the plug when they did. He & the band definitely wanted this to be a special performance, but we got more of a special effort, unlike any show I've ever been to. I truly believe for all the hurdles that were cleared & getting to play that loud of a show from midnight to 2am, in Wrigleyville of all places which is right on top of living units, it's pretty badass how it played out.
This was my 5th PJ show and each one beforehand felt pretty special on paper. #1 was PJ opening for Tom Petty in 2006, 2 back to back shows in Chicago, PJ20 night 2, and now Wrigley. The Wrigley song performances were top notch to me, setlist strength was good but not great. London looked terrific setlist wise. My personal taste would've loved some more tunes like Not For You, Smile, Brother, Spin Black Circle, Supersonic.
That is a very interesting piece of logic.
We've had special guests before (I think we all know Corin Tucker's inability to SCREEEEEEEEEEECH Hunger Strike) but that was way too many, IMO. The whole TOTD with Boom Gaspar and 37 other people on stage was odd...it should have been just TOTD, IMO, and no one else. The large entourage of people accompanying Temple...supposed to keep it sacred.
Chicago EV 08 11 13
Cleveland 94 98 03 06 10
Cincinatti 06
Columbus 00 03 10
Detroit 06 EV 11 14
Grand Rapids 06
Hershey 03
Jacksonville EV 12
Moline 14
Montreal 05
Milwaukee EV 08
Nobelsville 03
Ottawa 05
Pittsburgh 06 13
Toledo 96 04
WRIGLEY 13