Trayvon Martin

Godfather. · July 2013

ajedigecko wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

sounds like a linch mob is in the court room.

Godfather.

Indeed..."media" lynched zimmerman when he defended himself.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfkRTC5gF ... fkRTC5gF4#

sounds like mid way thru the trial they knew they had no chance of conviction so they reached into their bag of tricks to make it happen, this trial could be lost on a technocality and then a riot will happen thanks to the media and the state attorneys turning this whole trial into a race riddled circus.

Godfather.

STAYSEA · July 2013

This guy is very Guilty! A grown Adult sees himself as the neighborhood watch dog.

It was in a gated community! They pay extra for the guard to look at your ID when you drive in.

This Zimmerman creep shot the kid in the gated community???!!!

Only they will know what happened that night.

Martin was a Honor Roll Highschool kid.

His parents are obviously rich and so is Zimmerguy, or they wouldn't live in a gated COMMUNITY.

Zim is Hispanic and Martin is African heritage, he was American but what is PC these days,

(I called my Jamaican Manager "Afro-American... she almost slapped the crap out of me... "I don't come from Africa").

I lived this.. I watched it happen.. I saw the families react. I have an opinion.

Don't Shoot KIDS!!! even if they have Skittles! I'm scared for Zimm he did a very BAD thing. I know he will meet his maker when it's his time.

I don't believe for one second that this was about RACE.
I do believe It's about shooting a child, Feeling scared.. And owning up to what Zim actually did. It's something I can never forget.

(That guy is going to fry for shooting that kid. HE had Skittles!... I never thought there would be so many questions. )

I regret being this honest, and I'm afraid to post it... :shock:

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unsung · July 2013

Zimmerman will walk, as he should. The evidence is showing he told the truth.

BTW there is nothing illegal with following someone to make sure they aren't causing problems, especially when the area has had recent problems.

gimmesometruth27 · July 2013

unsung wrote:

Zimmerman will walk, as he should. The evidence is showing he told the truth.

BTW there is nothing illegal with following someone to make sure they aren't causing problems, especially when the area has had recent problems.

he may be acquitted of murder 2, but he is not going to walk from manslaughter. zimmerman is going to jail.

vant0037 · July 2013

unsung wrote:

Zimmerman will walk, as he should. The evidence is showing he told the truth.

BTW there is nothing illegal with following someone to make sure they aren't causing problems, especially when the area has had recent problems.

The legality of following someone is not at issue! Sheesh...even his defense attorneys have spent no time addressing that line of thinking.

It does not matter if it was legal or illegal to follow someone. It's whether the totality of his actions measure up to a self-defense claim. The legality of him following someone does nothing to further he was acting in self-defense.

If you want to impune the process or argue that he isn't guilty, fine, but continuing to make this argue doesn't help your cause.

unsung · July 2013

I don't have any skin in this. We don't know who started the fight, but him following someone doesn't give up his right to self defense. Neither does asking the guy why he is cutting through private property.

He will walk.

gimmesometruth27 · July 2013

unsung wrote:

I don't have any skin in this. We don't know who started the fight, but him following someone doesn't give up his right to self defense. Neither does asking the guy why he is cutting through private property.

He will walk.

just curious, how much of the trial have you seen?

does martin give up the right to defend himself against the person following and intimidating him, or is he supposed to sit there and take zimmerman's bullshit? he has just as much right to defend himself as the wannabe cop has. this is not about stand your ground. zimmerman waived his right to a hearing to determine if he could use that defense.

martin lost his life. zimmerman took it. zimmerman bears responsibility for the entire situation. the prosecution still has an hour of closing argument remaining following the defense closing argument. they will rebut that argument. he is gonna get convicted of manslaughter.

if he gets a long prison sentence, will he dismiss THAT as god's plan as well?? somehow i doubt that...

Godfather. · July 2013

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

unsung wrote:

Zimmerman will walk, as he should. The evidence is showing he told the truth.

BTW there is nothing illegal with following someone to make sure they aren't causing problems, especially when the area has had recent problems.

he may be acquitted of murder 2, but he is not going to walk from manslaughter. zimmerman is going to jail.

as much as I don't want to I have to agree with you with all the pressure from the media and other outside sources they will get him for something.....wouldn't suprise me if they come back at him for tax ivasion...... :shock:

Godfather.

cincybearcat · July 2013

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

just curious, how much of the trial have you seen?

does martin give up the right to defend himself against the person following and intimidating him, or is he supposed to sit there and take zimmerman's bullshit? he has just as much right to defend himself as the wannabe cop has. this is not about stand your ground. zimmerman waived his right to a hearing to determine if he could use that defense.

martin lost his life. zimmerman took it. zimmerman bears responsibility for the entire situation. the prosecution still has an hour of closing argument remaining following the defense closing argument. they will rebut that argument. he is gonna get convicted of manslaughter.

if he gets a long prison sentence, will he dismiss THAT as god's plan as well?? somehow i doubt that...

So, you are saying someone has the right to physically attack someone that is following them and intimidating them?

Perhaps. But I'm not sure really.

Really, just wish I could watch a video of it and know for sure what went down. Ultimately both are victims of the gangsta life some celebrate and the gun life others celebrate.

Blockhead · July 2013

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

unsung wrote:

I don't have any skin in this. We don't know who started the fight, but him following someone doesn't give up his right to self defense. Neither does asking the guy why he is cutting through private property.

He will walk.

just curious, how much of the trial have you seen?

does martin give up the right to defend himself against the person following and intimidating him, or is he supposed to sit there and take zimmerman's bullshit? he has just as much right to defend himself as the wannabe cop has. this is not about stand your ground. zimmerman waived his right to a hearing to determine if he could use that defense.

martin lost his life. zimmerman took it. zimmerman bears responsibility for the entire situation. the prosecution still has an hour of closing argument remaining following the defense closing argument. they will rebut that argument. he is gonna get convicted of manslaughter.

if he gets a long prison sentence, will he dismiss THAT as god's plan as well?? somehow i doubt that...

Oh look! a post laced with emotion and assumptions...
I love your convincing "key words" 1. Wanna be cop. 2. following = intimidation.
I am thankful your not part or the Jury. Again, where is your evidence he followed him and intimidated him, what evidence do you have the zimmerman attacked martin first?
What EVIDENCE do you have the Prove Zimmer DIDN"T act in self defense. This is the point of the trail. The state need to PROVE that zimmer didn't act in self defense. They can't, they change their story so many times that they are leaving everything up to assumptions.
He will walk and will sue the state for all of personal information leaked (ssn) and lies/misinformation told.

gimmesometruth27 · July 2013

Blockhead wrote:

Oh look! a post laced with emotion and assumptions...
I love your convincing "key words" 1. Wanna be cop. 2. following = intimidation.
I am thankful your not part or the Jury. Again, where is your evidence he followed him and intimidated him, what evidence do you have the zimmerman attacked martin first?
What EVIDENCE do you have the Prove Zimmer DIDN"T act in self defense. This is the point of the trail. The state need to PROVE that zimmer didn't act in self defense. They can't, they change their story so many times that they are leaving everything up to assumptions.
He will walk and will sue the state for all of personal information leaked (ssn) and lies/misinformation told.

he did not act in self defense. he pursued the victim. he confronted the victim. fight ensued. he said martin reached for the gun, which was behind zimmerman, who, if he was on his back with martin's knees in his armpits, mount position as he says, martin could not have reached for the gun.

this is like me going into a bar knowing i am strapped, initiating a fight and then shooting someone when they beat me up. how can he claim self defense when he followed martin and put himself in that position? fact is, zimmerman stays in the car, as directed, there is no trial because martin is not dead. zimmerman caused all of this.

he is not going to walk. he is going to jail.

JimmyV · July 2013

I believe Zimmerman is guilty. I believe his actions led to the death of another human being and that his self-defense claim does not hold water.

I also believe he will walk.

JonnyPistachio · July 2013

JimmyV wrote:

I believe Zimmerman is guilty. I believe his actions led to the death of another human being and that his self-defense claim does not hold water.

I also believe he will walk.

I tend to agree with you.

I forget -- does the jury need to be unanimous for manslaughter convictions? Vant?

Also, when does Zimmerman's book come out "How I killed a kid by shooting him in the heart for punching my nose too hard."

Blockhead · July 2013

JonnyPistachio wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

I believe Zimmerman is guilty. I believe his actions led to the death of another human being and that his self-defense claim does not hold water.

I also believe he will walk.

I tend to agree with you.

I forget -- does the jury need to be unanimous for manslaughter convictions? Vant?

Also, when does Zimmerman's book come out "How I killed a kid by shooting him in the heart for punching my nose too hard."

I think the book comes out around the same time my wife's does " How I killed a stranger by shooting him in the heart for attacking me with intent to rape me, but I only suffered ripped clothing"

JonnyPistachio · July 2013

Blockhead wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

I believe Zimmerman is guilty. I believe his actions led to the death of another human being and that his self-defense claim does not hold water.

I also believe he will walk.

I tend to agree with you.

I forget -- does the jury need to be unanimous for manslaughter convictions? Vant?

Also, when does Zimmerman's book come out "How I killed a kid by shooting him in the heart for punching my nose too hard."

I think the book comes out around the same time my wife's does " How I killed a stranger by shooting him in the heart for attacking me with intent to rape me, but I only suffered ripped clothing"

I'll buy it.

Blockhead · July 2013

JimmyV wrote:

I believe Zimmerman is guilty. I believe his actions led to the death of another human being and that his self-defense claim does not hold water.

I also believe he will walk.

I think you have it backwards...
4 min thing is huge. TM would've been able to get home by then. Instead he waited around for GZ.
But yeah..... Its Zimmerman's actions that led to his death,

JimmyV · July 2013

Blockhead wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

I believe Zimmerman is guilty. I believe his actions led to the death of another human being and that his self-defense claim does not hold water.

I also believe he will walk.

I think you have it backwards...
4 min thing is huge. TM would've been able to get home by then. Instead he waited around for GZ.
But yeah..... Its Zimmerman's actions that led to his death,

Because when being followed by a strange person we should all proceed directly home and show that person where we live? I don't think so.

Blockhead · July 2013

JimmyV wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

I believe Zimmerman is guilty. I believe his actions led to the death of another human being and that his self-defense claim does not hold water.

I also believe he will walk.

I think you have it backwards...
4 min thing is huge. TM would've been able to get home by then. Instead he waited around for GZ.
But yeah..... Its Zimmerman's actions that led to his death,

Because when being followed by a strange person we should all proceed directly home and show that person where we live? I don't think so.

Oh Look! More assumptions...
So what are you saying happened then?

Its Evolution Baby · July 2013

I have found that this case is IMPOSSIBLE to debate with people. People who are Team Zimmerman was a wannabe cop will not be convinced he was really a misunderstood concerned citizen, whose number one priority was protecting his neighborhood.

Vice Versa Zimmerman supporters really just spout out word for word what Zimmerman, Hannity, etc have been saying about the case and they buy his story 100%.

I am in the first camp because I think he's been proven to be a liar both in terms of this story and in the aftermath. He also had the boy who cried wolf thing going against him with all his unfounded 911 calls in the lead up to this case. I like to think I'm a concerned citizen too, but I've called 911 ONE time in my life and never for suspicious teenagers.

And lastly if we shot every teenager that was acting like a thug or behaving suspiciously...we'd have very few teenagers left on this planet. Which to some wouldn't be a bad thing...

Blockhead · July 2013

Its Evolution Baby wrote:

I have found that this case is IMPOSSIBLE to debate with people. People who are Team Zimmerman was a wannabe cop will not be convinced he was really a misunderstood concerned citizen, whose number one priority was protecting his neighborhood.

Vice Versa Zimmerman supporters really just spout out word for word what Zimmerman, Hannity, etc have been saying about the case and they buy his story 100%.

I am in the first camp because I think he's been proven to be a liar both in terms of this story and in the aftermath. He also had the boy who cried wolf thing going against him with all his unfounded 911 calls in the lead up to this case. I like to think I'm a concerned citizen too, but I've called 911 ONE time in my life and never for suspicious teenagers.

And lastly if we shot every teenager that was acting like a thug or behaving suspiciously...we'd have very few teenagers left on this planet. Which to some wouldn't be a bad thing...

Oh great... more assumptions.
Can you use any actual evidence that supports your position.

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