Pearl Jam v Dave Matthews Band

:fp: People still referring to DMB as that 'frat guy' band have to realize those frat guys are now probably middle aged fathers.... Truth is, EVERY band has some amazing fans and some major douches.


I agree with what mamasan said earlier in the thread- a lot of people hate on them because it's 'a thing' to hate on them. A lot of people, I think, base their opinions off of what they hear without digging a bit deeper. DMB's singles are some of my least favorite DMB songs. I encourage people to check out songs like The Stone, You Never Know, Drive In Drive Out, and Raven. Miles miles and miles better than any slow tempo love song released as a single. Dave's voice has also changed a bit throughout the years, and what people might have found annoying about it is curbed much more these days.

If someone doesn't care for Dave's voice, that's one thing and I get it. But when people say DMB as an entire band sucks kinda makes me scratch my head because they are one of those bands that to me, are incredible musicians first--nevermind if you care for the lyrics and melody. Carter Beauford in particular OWNS his massive drum kit and is one of the most creative and skilled drummers I have ever seen. I think all members of the band are at the top of their game.

Also, like PJ, DMB are a LIVE band. Hearing studio stuff is one thing, but live they are really something else. The way I became a fan, actually, was randomly going to see them live--then I got hooked.

Oh well, that's my piece. I could go on, but prefer to stay out of disagreements. DMB are my 2nd favorite band after Pearl Jam, and at the end of the day to each their own!

Very unfair to compare. PJ are my favourite band and always will be. DMB fall in my favourite bands of all time, possibly in top 3.

You know what's really sad? That people stereotype other people based off of the type of music they listen to. I would have thought that some of the members within the Ten Club would have a little more decency than that.

guess not.

This shouldn't even be conversation.

Mamasan23 wrote:

cmm6734 wrote:

I enjoyed both albums when they came out, but IMO, Big Whiskey is a much better album than Backspacer. As said above, Backspacer has not stood the test of time for me, but I still listen to Big Whiskey. It is a great album, and one of DMB's best.

Totally agree. Big Whiskey was an incredible record. Sometimes I think people hate on DMB just because its cool to hate on them.

it is cool to hate :corn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkRJzErnRmY

Had an amazing time at both DMB Alpine shows this weekend. Cuz you know they tour every year

Both bands have great approaches to "official live bootlegs"
While DMB has consistently picked "choice shows" to release rather than each show..
They have a brisk DMBLIVE vault series with tons of great 1993-1996 shows..
While releasing 2-3 shows from recent tours every year or so..
The thing about DMB is that almost ALL of their official boots have supreme sound quality.

PJ , on the other hand releases (just about) every show from every tour since 2000..
The downside is the quality varies... Which ill never understand since you would expect standard mastering of live shows are obtainable noting DMB accomplished it.
2000 bootlegs were decent with Eds vocals a bit back in the mix.
2003 was PERFECT IMO .. Then some intern must have been given the job since 2005, 2006 were bland to horrid sound quality..
2007 was skipped for some strange reason.
2008 good to GREAT.
2009 started to reach high quality levels and then BOOM
2010 horrid horrid horrid..
These shows were the stick that broke the camels back with
10c management finally waking up and re-assigning mastering duties to someone with experrience for
2011 and 2012 (thank god)

DMB at Alpine Valley this weekend.....who's going?! Lol

I'll be at Alpine this weekend. For the record PJ and Tool are my top two. But I do enjoy other music. DMB put on a great show. And they're doing this 2 set thing with the first being acoustic and 2nd being electric. How cool is that?

I want to say it was 2010 last time I saw DMB at Alpine. I was still living in Colorado and I got 2 nights of Tool @ Red Rocks, flew out to Illinois to visit family and caught the 2 nights of DMB @ Alpine. 2 monster drummers in less than a week! I think it's during the drumming section of Two Step where Carter is drumming so hard he comes up off his stool.

One of my favororite songs is Drunken Soldier. It's like a musical journey with all the changes going on.

manitouman said:

I'll be at Alpine this weekend. For the record PJ and Tool are my top two. But I do enjoy other music. DMB put on a great show. And they're doing this 2 set thing with the first being acoustic and 2nd being electric. How cool is that?

I want to say it was 2010 last time I saw DMB at Alpine. I was still living in Colorado and I got 2 nights of Tool @ Red Rocks, flew out to Illinois to visit family and caught the 2 nights of DMB @ Alpine. 2 monster drummers in less than a week! I think it's during the drumming section of Two Step where Carter is drumming so hard he comes up off his stool.

One of my favororite songs is Drunken Soldier. It's like a musical journey with all the changes going on.

Yes, no opening band was awesome. Dave played 3 songs by himself, then an acoustic set, then the main set. Played for about 3 and a half hours if you don't count the long set break.