likely tour dates usa?

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  • shep
    shep Houston Posts: 5,902
    Go Beavers wrote:
    shep wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    Tour in October and November, still plenty of time to announce a "full" tour. QOTSA just announced a September tour a week or 2 ago. Arctic Monkeys just did the same. I think PJ's August 09 Chicago shows went on sale in May, and the May '10 shows went on sale in February.
    They don't want a bunch of out of towners dumping their Wrigley tix when a closer show gets announced.

    I don't know why anyone would expect a 30 or 40 show leg of touring. It's been a decade since they done that.


    Bingo.

    you're not gonna get dates until after Wrigley.

    Stop asking.

    The tickets are sold, why would the band care if people dump their tickets?

    How would you feel, if after all this hype and hoopla in the last 5 months, you were onstage and only about 2/3rds of the seats were filled?

    Yea, you made your cash, all the seats were paid for, but suddenly a "sold out" wrigley show isn't quite as special with all those empty seats...
    Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296
    Go Beavers wrote:
    shep wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    Tour in October and November, still plenty of time to announce a "full" tour. QOTSA just announced a September tour a week or 2 ago. Arctic Monkeys just did the same. I think PJ's August 09 Chicago shows went on sale in May, and the May '10 shows went on sale in February.
    They don't want a bunch of out of towners dumping their Wrigley tix when a closer show gets announced.

    I don't know why anyone would expect a 30 or 40 show leg of touring. It's been a decade since they done that.


    Bingo.

    you're not gonna get dates until after Wrigley.

    Stop asking.

    The tickets are sold, why would the band care if people dump their tickets?

    Wrigley is a big place. I can't imagine more than a 1,000 people changing their Wrigley plans based on the fall tour dates and that is a drop in the bucket.
  • shep
    shep Houston Posts: 5,902
    bootlegger10 wrote:

    Wrigley is a big place. I can't imagine more than a 1,000 people changing their Wrigley plans based on the fall tour dates and that is a drop in the bucket.

    Announce a tour with the following shows:

    2 x NYC
    2 x Boston
    2 x Philly

    a couple of scattered dates inbetween, say Hartford, Buffalo, Newark, DC, charlotte... and another date in the south somewhere en route to NOLA, and see how many east coasters and others with a local show bail immediately. The loss of ~$160 worth of tickets is a drop in the bucket compared to traveling costs. If you're staying Thursday - Sunday at a nice hotel, and flying and you can cancel all of it, you've just saved yourself close on $1k, if not more after booze.

    I bet its a lot more than 1000 tickets.

    I would bet it's closer to 8-10k people from out of town coming for this show... knowing the touring group that follows this band.
    Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    demetrios wrote:

    Exactly! Plus you can't refund 10club tickets. When they did the lottery wasn't the Ticketmaster sale 2 weeks later? With the new lottery system? It's not like the 10club tickets go on sale Monday and Friday coming Ticketmaster sale. It's pretty much a week with 10club lottery. Wait a few day's to pick the winners. Then the coming Friday (which would be 2 weeks since the announcement of the 10club ticket lottery, Ticketmaster tickets go on sale.

    I posted in another thread looking at it realistically with possible public on sale dates, the lottery will probably take a week from a Monday to a Monday, with a the public sale on the Friday after it ends. Public sale won’t be the 5th of July, or the 19th obviously. I doubt the 12th since that would mean the PJ announcement/lottery would be over the holiday. Not the 26th since they would have the PJ lottery over the time of the two shows, so that is out. So my guess is PJ lottery starts July 29- August 5th, and public on sale August 9th. You have to figure in peoples travel plans with these shows, the days it takes 10c to announce winners and losers before the radio pre-sales etc. Also, I would not be surprised if a lot of the 10c staff is traveling to Chicago as well.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,615
    shep wrote:
    bootlegger10 wrote:

    Wrigley is a big place. I can't imagine more than a 1,000 people changing their Wrigley plans based on the fall tour dates and that is a drop in the bucket.

    Announce a tour with the following shows:

    2 x NYC
    2 x Boston
    2 x Philly

    a couple of scattered dates inbetween, say Hartford, Buffalo, Newark, DC, charlotte... and another date in the south somewhere en route to NOLA, and see how many east coasters and others with a local show bail immediately. The loss of ~$160 worth of tickets is a drop in the bucket compared to traveling costs. If you're staying Thursday - Sunday at a nice hotel, and flying and you can cancel all of it, you've just saved yourself close on $1k, if not more after booze.

    I bet its a lot more than 1000 tickets.

    I would bet it's closer to 8-10k people from out of town coming for this show... knowing the touring group that follows this band.

    You've probably noticed this but fans from Boston and Philly are nuts. Not too many of us would be dropping our tickets, tour announcement or no tour announcement. Especially in this case when we have known for months a US tour was coming.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Go Beavers wrote:
    The tickets are sold, why would the band care if people dump their tickets?

    Fine then, the band doesn't care. The other points remain. An announcement is probably getting close, but not ridiculously close like some people are acting.
  • ckravitz
    ckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668
    Well they could easily announce the dates without putting the tickets on sale. In that way, people couldn't just dump their Wrigley tickets because they'd have no guarantee of getting hometown tix anyway.

    But anyhow, any out of towner that is planning on flying to Chicago that doesn't yet have hotel and airplane reservations are most likely a tiny minority. Maybe the hotel is refundable but almost no airfare is refundable unless you are paying for refundable tickets in which case money isn't an issue in the first place!

    Beyond all that, killing the secondary market demand isn't something a band usually worries about unless folks are making the supposition that the fastest sell out in Wrigley concert history would somehow be half empty due to no shows. That is a stretch.
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,277
    DewieCox wrote:
    Tour in October and November, still plenty of time to announce a "full" tour. QOTSA just announced a September tour a week or 2 ago. Arctic Monkeys just did the same. I think PJ's August 09 Chicago shows went on sale in May, and the May '10 shows went on sale in February.

    They don't want a bunch of out of towners dumping their Wrigley tix when a closer show gets announced.

    I don't know why anyone would expect a 30 or 40 show leg of touring. It's been a decade since they done that.

    Good point. I bet the dates get announced a few days after Wrigley.
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  • MisterEtake2
    MisterEtake2 Posts: 404
    What a silly thread. Only the serious fan is going take the time off from work, spend several hundred $ and fly half way across the country to see a show. And if more shows get announced, the serious fan just goes to more shows.
  • shep
    shep Houston Posts: 5,902
    ckravitz wrote:

    But anyhow, any out of towner that is planning on flying to Chicago that doesn't yet have hotel and airplane reservations are most likely a tiny minority. Maybe the hotel is refundable but almost no airfare is refundable unless you are paying for refundable tickets in which case money isn't an issue in the first place!

    I personally know 4 people with tickets, a refundable hotel booked, and no plane tickets yet.... (For the record I think they're fucking stupid for doing this, but I still know them... :lol:)

    Airfare is not refundable, it is however acceptable to cancel. If you're flying southwest or some other economy airlines you can cancel at no charge and have up to a year to use the $ spent on a different flight. Other airlines charge various fees for this same service.... i think the worst being about $150 for a return domestic flight... so you airline expenditure is not lost, and you've saved yourself a couple of vacation days...

    I bet a lot more people than you expect would bail.

    The band wants every last seat to be filled, for what will most likely be an iconic show... regardless of whether or not the seats are paid for. announcing additional shows in their most heavily populated fan-base areas is not conducive to this. bottom line.
    Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
  • ckravitz
    ckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668
    shep wrote:
    ckravitz wrote:

    But anyhow, any out of towner that is planning on flying to Chicago that doesn't yet have hotel and airplane reservations are most likely a tiny minority. Maybe the hotel is refundable but almost no airfare is refundable unless you are paying for refundable tickets in which case money isn't an issue in the first place!

    I personally know 4 people with tickets, a refundable hotel booked, and no plane tickets yet.... (For the record I think they're fucking stupid for doing this, but I still know them... :lol:)
    :lol::lol::lol:
    shep wrote:
    Airfare is not refundable, it is however acceptable to cancel. If you're flying southwest or some other economy airlines you can cancel at no charge and have up to a year to use the $ spent on a different flight. Other airlines charge various fees for this same service.... i think the worst being about $150 for a return domestic flight... so you airline expenditure is not lost, and you've saved yourself a couple of vacation days...

    I bet a lot more people than you expect would bail.

    The band wants every last seat to be filled, for what will most likely be an iconic show... regardless of whether or not the seats are paid for. announcing additional shows in their most heavily populated fan-base areas is not conducive to this. bottom line.

    Well maybe so, but I have to say in that case, it is pretty disappointing. There seems to be tons of folks that want to go to Wrigley but can't because they don't want to pay 400 a ticket (no evidence just seems to be the case from postings) and if a tour announcement would have folks that already have tickets cancelling it would certainly drive down the secondary market pricing.
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,967
    YieldToNothing wrote:
    Eraserhead wrote:
    The Euro 12 dates were announced a full six months before they happened. Time is marching on...

    because half of them were festival dates and the euro fests announce their lineups well in advance.

    don't compare apples to oranges

    I think about 3 of the 13 were festivals.

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