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likely tour dates usa?
pearljamdude420
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well it taking long for pj to announce dates, only new Orleans festival so far, my guess is the tour wont be long one, if it was a long one they need months in advance to plan all the dates out and the arenas over nba nhl schedules etc. my guess is pj is going to play 3 or 4 west coast shows and 3 or 4 east coast shows, and maybe a city or two in between for maybe like 10 or 12 shows total? can anyone think of a longer tour? I was hoping they do at least 15 shows east and 15 shows west of Mississippi line but I doubt that will happen. seems like they might play seattle 2x, la 2x, philly 2x, ny city 2x, new Orleans 1x, Houston 1x, and that's the whole tour? kind of lame fuck soundgarden tour pj needs to do a real tour, rolling stones are old like 65 70 years old these guys still try to tour a bunch of shows, pj has not done a long tour in a long ass time, my guess is no long tour cause no new album this year. but who cares they change the setlist every night a they don't need a new album to have a nice 20 or 30 show tour instead of just 3 or 4 cities
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Good luck with the lotto if that happens.
Here's the relevant part of the email:
The hope is that July 10th is the big date.
I don't see it. They are not going to have the PJ lottery and public sale at the same time a lot of fans will be traveling to the July shows . And I don't see them announcing dates July 10th and having a lottery 2 weeks or more later.
They don't want a bunch of out of towners dumping their Wrigley tix when a closer show gets announced.
I don't know why anyone would expect a 30 or 40 show leg of touring. It's been a decade since they done that.
I still think we'll get an album this year. Its probably why dates havent been announced. They may be trying to coincide the two.
i wish they'd jsut go ahead an announce it, most bands of their stature give more than 3 months notice.....but whatever.....i'm just happy there's gonna be shows
because half of them were festival dates and the euro fests announce their lineups well in advance.
don't compare apples to oranges
Why not? I remembered just a few day's before traveling to California for Ed back in '08 the East Coast PJ 10club tickets went on sale. That same week Ed was playing Santa Barbara, Ticketmaster were selling the East Coast PJ '08 show's. So you never know.
Plus it's a lottery. Folks do check their emails & check out the forum right? London is July 16th. No need to F5 anymore. F5. I do love the F5 day's ...
Just saying I doubt it. I would not be pleased to be in Chicago and worrying about entering the lottery on my phone. Or finding a way to get to a computer for a ticketmaster sale. I'm sure others would not be either. My guess is PJ would want people to enjoy the shows and then have the sale after. I think the lottery starts July 29.
Not many Friday night TM sales either.
Bingo.
you're not gonna get dates until after Wrigley.
Stop asking.
I'll deduct that Ed needs to use hand sani. He tends to get sick during the Fall dates as you pointed out (add fall '09). His kids are probably all back-to-school snotty nosed.
Wow, just saying, I don't think they want the lottery at the same time as the shows. Does not make much sense. Or for people to get emails that they missed out on shows the day of Wrigley for that matter.
Yes I realize not many Friday night Ticketmaster sales, but I will be traveling Friday morning when they usually have them . I think others will be as well. And I would not want to be trying for tickets to shows in my area on my phone in a bar.
The tickets are sold, why would the band care if people dump their tickets?
Exactly! Plus you can't refund 10club tickets. When they did the lottery wasn't the Ticketmaster sale 2 weeks later? With the new lottery system? It's not like the 10club tickets go on sale Monday and Friday coming Ticketmaster sale. It's pretty much a week with 10club lottery. Wait a few day's to pick the winners. Then the coming Friday (which would be 2 weeks since the announcement of the 10club ticket lottery, Ticketmaster tickets go on sale.
How would you feel, if after all this hype and hoopla in the last 5 months, you were onstage and only about 2/3rds of the seats were filled?
Yea, you made your cash, all the seats were paid for, but suddenly a "sold out" wrigley show isn't quite as special with all those empty seats...
Wrigley is a big place. I can't imagine more than a 1,000 people changing their Wrigley plans based on the fall tour dates and that is a drop in the bucket.
Announce a tour with the following shows:
2 x NYC
2 x Boston
2 x Philly
a couple of scattered dates inbetween, say Hartford, Buffalo, Newark, DC, charlotte... and another date in the south somewhere en route to NOLA, and see how many east coasters and others with a local show bail immediately. The loss of ~$160 worth of tickets is a drop in the bucket compared to traveling costs. If you're staying Thursday - Sunday at a nice hotel, and flying and you can cancel all of it, you've just saved yourself close on $1k, if not more after booze.
I bet its a lot more than 1000 tickets.
I would bet it's closer to 8-10k people from out of town coming for this show... knowing the touring group that follows this band.
I posted in another thread looking at it realistically with possible public on sale dates, the lottery will probably take a week from a Monday to a Monday, with a the public sale on the Friday after it ends. Public sale won’t be the 5th of July, or the 19th obviously. I doubt the 12th since that would mean the PJ announcement/lottery would be over the holiday. Not the 26th since they would have the PJ lottery over the time of the two shows, so that is out. So my guess is PJ lottery starts July 29- August 5th, and public on sale August 9th. You have to figure in peoples travel plans with these shows, the days it takes 10c to announce winners and losers before the radio pre-sales etc. Also, I would not be surprised if a lot of the 10c staff is traveling to Chicago as well.
You've probably noticed this but fans from Boston and Philly are nuts. Not too many of us would be dropping our tickets, tour announcement or no tour announcement. Especially in this case when we have known for months a US tour was coming.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Fine then, the band doesn't care. The other points remain. An announcement is probably getting close, but not ridiculously close like some people are acting.
But anyhow, any out of towner that is planning on flying to Chicago that doesn't yet have hotel and airplane reservations are most likely a tiny minority. Maybe the hotel is refundable but almost no airfare is refundable unless you are paying for refundable tickets in which case money isn't an issue in the first place!
Beyond all that, killing the secondary market demand isn't something a band usually worries about unless folks are making the supposition that the fastest sell out in Wrigley concert history would somehow be half empty due to no shows. That is a stretch.
Good point. I bet the dates get announced a few days after Wrigley.
I personally know 4 people with tickets, a refundable hotel booked, and no plane tickets yet.... (For the record I think they're fucking stupid for doing this, but I still know them...
Airfare is not refundable, it is however acceptable to cancel. If you're flying southwest or some other economy airlines you can cancel at no charge and have up to a year to use the $ spent on a different flight. Other airlines charge various fees for this same service.... i think the worst being about $150 for a return domestic flight... so you airline expenditure is not lost, and you've saved yourself a couple of vacation days...
I bet a lot more people than you expect would bail.
The band wants every last seat to be filled, for what will most likely be an iconic show... regardless of whether or not the seats are paid for. announcing additional shows in their most heavily populated fan-base areas is not conducive to this. bottom line.