Should Pearl Jam Play in Israel?

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    should pearl jam play in israel?

    i can not say this in a more emphatic way, but NO.

    that would be an endorsement of the israeli government's policies. i would hope that a band that has shown to have a social conscience would understand that.
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  • the wolf
    the wolf Posts: 7,027
    should pearl jam play in israel?

    i can not say this in a more emphatic way, but NO.

    that would be an endorsement of the israeli government's policies. i would hope that a band that has shown to have a social conscience would understand that.


    I'm torn on this really.

    I don't know if i agree with it being an endorsement of the Israeli govt's policies.

    They play here in the states and we KNOW for a fact the do not endorse all of our policies.
    What if they played in Iran? Would they be endorsing their policies?

    Maybe they just want to play for their fans and not the govt. of their fans?

    I don't know. Complicated indeed. :|
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    the wolf wrote:
    should pearl jam play in israel?

    i can not say this in a more emphatic way, but NO.

    that would be an endorsement of the israeli government's policies. i would hope that a band that has shown to have a social conscience would understand that.


    I'm torn on this really.

    I don't know if i agree with it being an endorsement of the Israeli govt's policies.

    They play here in the states and we KNOW for a fact the do not endorse all of our policies.
    What if they played in Iran? Would they be endorsing their policies?

    Maybe they just want to play for their fans and not the govt. of their fans?

    I don't know. Complicated indeed. :|

    do you think their Palestinians fans wold be allowed to attend a concert?
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  • Bentleyspop
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  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Shakes head...
    You accusing me of lying or twisting facts from your side does not mean I am lying. You also should post my answers to those accusations...
    Its sad... We live in the information age. Why anyone interested in this case wouldn't take even 20 minutes to look up some stuff, especially when it's all there to see very easily, is incredible.
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    If you're Jewish, you're going to say Yes

    If not, you're going to say No

    Well none of the guys in the band are Jewish, so guess what?

    Not gona happen.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Blockhead wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Shakes head...
    You accusing me of lying or twisting facts from your side does not mean I am lying. You also should post my answers to those accusations...
    Its sad... We live in the information age. Why anyone interested in this case wouldn't take even 20 minutes to look up some stuff, especially when it's all there to see very easily, is incredible.

    Everyone's free to read that thread and make up their own mind. It's there for all to see.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    If you're Jewish, you're going to say Yes

    If not, you're going to say No

    Well none of the guys in the band are Jewish, so guess what?

    Not gona happen.

    Not all Jews support Israel. And many Jews across the World, and within Israel, are opposed to that governments policies. Many can see how destructive it's expansionist activity is, not just to the Palestinians, but to Israel too.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Jeesh...I thought this would be an interesting thread, but like many others, it's turned into personal bickering bullshit.

    (to answer the initial question - assuming it was put out there in good faith - if I lived in Israel, I sure as shit would want them to come around and do their thing)

    **as to "should" - it's no one's decision but their own.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    Pearl Jam should only tour in North America. Every year.

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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    JC29856 wrote:
    Palestinians make great pets, they make great pets
    :o
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    what would the band gain by playing in israel?

    what is in it for them?

    if it were worth their while wouldn't they have already played there?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Jason P wrote:
    Pearl Jam should only tour in North America. Every year.

    8-)


    This Guy Gets It! ^^^ 8-)
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    what would the band gain by playing in israel?

    what is in it for them?

    if it were worth their while wouldn't they have already played there?
    But...define "gain" and "worth their while".

    Are we talking financial? Moral? Political? Other?

    What are the so-called reasons for playing anywhere else?

    Personally, I don't know (and honestly, I don't need to know).
  • Bronx Bombers
    Bronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    what would the band gain by playing in israel?

    what is in it for them?

    if it were worth their while wouldn't they have already played there?

    Well technically they did

    Neil Young and Pearl Jam visited Israel in 1995. They played twice - August 22, 1995 in Jerusalem and August 23, 1995 in Caesarea.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    what would the band gain by playing in israel?

    what is in it for them?

    if it were worth their while wouldn't they have already played there?

    Well technically they did

    Neil Young and Pearl Jam visited Israel in 1995. They played twice - August 22, 1995 in Jerusalem and August 23, 1995 in Caesarea.
    i should have said "played there routinely".

    thanks for clarifying.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    hedonist wrote:
    what would the band gain by playing in israel?

    what is in it for them?

    if it were worth their while wouldn't they have already played there?
    But...define "gain" and "worth their while".

    Are we talking financial? Moral? Political? Other?

    What are the so-called reasons for playing anywhere else?

    Personally, I don't know (and honestly, I don't need to know).
    that is not for me to define.

    the only people who know if it would be worthwhile would be the six guys in the band. the only people that know their reasons for touring anywhere are the six guys in the band.

    the guys are well off financially, so i doubt that it can be measured in financial terms.

    would they want to be scrutinized by fans in the international community? is it worth it to them to alienate a large number of fans for the sake of playing in front of 100,000 israelis over the course of a few nights?
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    a free concert playing for peace seems like a good thing. all would be invited. flags & signs of religion left at the door. helping people heal is a good plan. ironing out countless years of fighting might be a plan all those assholes over there might try and grasp.

    what does the band gain? I read some message like this and other messages like it all comes down to money. gain & money. gain & money. you folks typing this shit up should feel ashamed of yourselves.

    edit...
    what pearl jam as a band and as human beings would aspire to gain is peace around the world by even slightly doing what they do. a lot of input is required by every single soul on earth to move us into peace & harmony. it all start within each one of us.
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