Should Pearl Jam Play in Israel?

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    catefrances wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    maybe some of you forgot the reason they still do this.......MONEY !
    politics and rock n roll.... :nono: these guy's are in a band not the white house,not the pagen god's you've made them out to be, let them play for the fans where ever they are..isreal or America they have a great talent to share and I'm sure people in Israel would like to see a PJ show as much as the rest of us.

    "check your political opinion in at the door and enjoy the show"


    Godfather.

    then perhaps the people of Israel might choose to apply pressure to their oppressive govt so that everyone who lives within the so called borders of 'israel' can equally enjoy a concert by a western rock band. having said that pearl jam are their own people and they can choose to play wherever they choose to do so.. however that doesn't mean that i as a pearl jam fan have to support their decision.. sure play israel but don't expect me to be at you next australian concert... and THAT is my choice.


    cool. ;)

    Godfather.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    maybe some of you forgot the reason they still do this.......MONEY !
    politics and rock n roll.... :nono: these guy's are in a band not the white house,not the pagen god's you've made them out to be, let them play for the fans where ever they are..isreal or America they have a great talent to share and I'm sure people in Israel would like to see a PJ show as much as the rest of us.

    "check your political opinion in at the door and enjoy the show"


    Godfather.

    You play in a country with a sensitive political situation then there's an element of endorsement involved. When a large number of artists begin boycotting a country because of it's bad human rights record e.t.c, then it sends a powerful message.
    One of the strongest factors in finally toppling South African Apartheid was the extent of boycotts from international performers. You can effectively isolate a country in that way and bring about change.

    Also, it's interesting that the only countries that supported the racist Apartheid regime in South Africa right up to the end were the U.S and Israel.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    It all depends if ORACLE has their next super conference in Israel.

    ;)
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  • catefrances
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    Jason P wrote:
    It all depends if ORACLE has their next super conference in Israel.

    ;)

    a corporation AND an oppressive govt.. that sounds like double evil to me. ;)8-)
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  • Byrnzie
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    Jason P wrote:
    It all depends if ORACLE has their next super conference in Israel.

    ;)

    Ouch!
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    They barely play the States, what makes one think they'd even think of playing in Israel?
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    I don't see why it matters...
    They play benefits for Murders...
    Hell, they even let a murder co-write lyrics to one of their songs...
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Blockhead wrote:
    I don't see why it matters...
    They play benefits for Murders...
    Hell, they even let a murder co-write lyrics to one of their songs...

    please elaborate.
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Godfather. wrote:
    maybe some of you forgot the reason they still do this.......MONEY !
    politics and rock n roll.... :nono: these guy's are in a band not the white house,not the pagen god's you've made them out to be, let them play for the fans where ever they are..isreal or America they have a great talent to share and I'm sure people in Israel would like to see a PJ show as much as the rest of us.

    "check your political opinion in at the door and enjoy the show"


    Godfather.

    They may play for money, but the band is really about politics and social justice. If they played Israel, it would mean they support what's going on there, because they are all about awareness. But that won't happen because they barely tour to begin with.
  • the wolf
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    catefrances wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    I don't see why it matters...
    They play benefits for Murders...
    Hell, they even let a murder co-write lyrics to one of their songs...

    please elaborate.

    or don't. :roll:
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  • Blockhead
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    catefrances wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    I don't see why it matters...
    They play benefits for Murders...
    Hell, they even let a murder co-write lyrics to one of their songs...

    please elaborate.
    WM3...
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    the wolf wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    I don't see why it matters...
    They play benefits for Murders...
    Hell, they even let a murder co-write lyrics to one of their songs...

    please elaborate.

    or don't. :roll:
    Relax buddy, It was only 6 minutes ago... :roll:
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Free wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    maybe some of you forgot the reason they still do this.......MONEY !
    politics and rock n roll.... :nono: these guy's are in a band not the white house,not the pagen god's you've made them out to be, let them play for the fans where ever they are..isreal or America they have a great talent to share and I'm sure people in Israel would like to see a PJ show as much as the rest of us.

    "check your political opinion in at the door and enjoy the show"


    Godfather.

    They may play for money, but the band is really about politics and social justice. If they played Israel, it would mean they support what's going on there, because they are all about awareness. But that won't happen because they barely tour to begin with.


    I find this opinion interesting... pj wont play Israel cause they barely tour anyway? really... that's why you seriously think they wouldn't tour Israel?
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  • catefrances
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    Blockhead wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    I don't see why it matters...
    They play benefits for Murders...
    Hell, they even let a murder co-write lyrics to one of their songs...

    please elaborate.
    WM3...

    when I look at this issue I see it more as more pertaining to justice rather than guilt... that its about the accused getting a fair trial.
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  • Free
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    catefrances wrote:
    Free wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    maybe some of you forgot the reason they still do this.......MONEY !
    politics and rock n roll.... :nono: these guy's are in a band not the white house,not the pagen god's you've made them out to be, let them play for the fans where ever they are..isreal or America they have a great talent to share and I'm sure people in Israel would like to see a PJ show as much as the rest of us.

    "check your political opinion in at the door and enjoy the show"


    Godfather.

    They may play for money, but the band is really about politics and social justice. If they played Israel, it would mean they support what's going on there, because they are all about awareness. But that won't happen because they barely tour to begin with.


    I find this opinion interesting... pj wont play Israel cause they barely tour anyway? really... that's why you seriously think they wouldn't tour Israel?

    It's a fact. If the band only tours a handful of shows a year, the few cities they are going to pick to play won't be a controversial one, unless they are doing it for support and awareness to the issues plaguing the area.
  • even flow - question mark
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    Bizniz iz bizniz!

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Blockhead wrote:
    I don't see why it matters...
    They play benefits for Murders...
    Hell, they even let a murder co-write lyrics to one of their songs...

    Anyone who knows anything about this case knows the WM3 were stitched up.

    Still, out of curiosity, why would you follow a band if you believe that band plays 'benefits for murderers'?
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    catefrances wrote:

    when I look at this issue I see it more as more pertaining to justice rather than guilt... that its about the accused getting a fair trial.
    Eddie Vedder should learn to be more "responsible" with his celebrity power. What is he doing now about the justice of the 3 kids who were murdered?
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Free wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    Free wrote:
    They may play for money, but the band is really about politics and social justice. If they played Israel, it would mean they support what's going on there, because they are all about awareness. But that won't happen because they barely tour to begin with.


    I find this opinion interesting... pj wont play Israel cause they barely tour anyway? really... that's why you seriously think they wouldn't tour Israel?

    It's a fact. If the band only tours a handful of shows a year, the few cities they are going to pick to play won't be a controversial one, unless they are doing it for support and awareness to the issues plaguing the area.


    please explain how your opinion is fact. pj are just about to play Chicago.. whats the awareness there aside from eddie being a cubs fan.. which we all already know. 8-)
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  • catefrances
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    Blockhead wrote:
    catefrances wrote:

    when I look at this issue I see it more as more pertaining to justice rather than guilt... that its about the accused getting a fair trial.
    Eddie Vedder should learn to be more "responsible" with his celebrity power. What is he doing now about the justice of the 3 kids who were murdered?
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