5 year old boy accidently shoots and kills 2 year old sister

Guitar92player · May 2013

Arm everyone they said....it would solve everything they said.

http://news.yahoo.com/5-old-boy-shoots- ... 29579.html

Horrible parenting.

Last-12-Exit · May 2013

I've seen this happen with children the same age. The only difference was the gun the boy used was an 18" sawed off shotgun. He accidentally shot and killed his 2 yr old sister in the stomach.

Horrible situations that, IMO, is more of a parenting issue rather than a gun issue.

Jeanwah · May 2013

Horrible parenting? It was a "My first rifle", a gun made for children. That's the problem. (and the parenting)

A 5-year-old boy accidentally shot his 2-year-old sister to death in rural southern Kentucky with a rifle he had received as a gift last year, authorities said.

A bullet just happened to still be in the gun, a children's gun. WTF?? :evil:

inmytree · May 2013

Last-12-Exit wrote:

I've seen this happen with children the same age. The only difference was the gun the boy used was an 18" sawed off shotgun. He accidentally shot and killed his 2 yr old sister in the stomach.

Horrible situations that, IMO, is more of a parenting issue rather than a gun issue.

who cares if it's more of a "parenting issue" vs. a "gun issue"...?

gun nuts keep saying guns are safe in the hands of a "responsible" gun owner...clearly, these parents are not "responsible"...yet they can still buy guns and give them as presents to 5 year olds... :fp:

the wolf · May 2013

inmytree wrote:

Last-12-Exit wrote:

I've seen this happen with children the same age. The only difference was the gun the boy used was an 18" sawed off shotgun. He accidentally shot and killed his 2 yr old sister in the stomach.

Horrible situations that, IMO, is more of a parenting issue rather than a gun issue.

who cares if it's more of a "parenting issue" vs. a "gun issue"...?

gun nuts keep saying guns are safe in the hands of a "responsible" gun owner...clearly, these parents are not "responsible"...yet they can still buy guns and give them as presents to 5 year olds... :fp:

Exactly!!! They are ALL responsible gun owners until.... one day they aren't. They are responsible until they
aren't for 2 minutes when they leave the house to check the mail.

Sadly, it only takes 30 second of not being responsible gun owners for someone to die.

I wish the Pro-Gun Group would understand that.

Guitar92player · May 2013

the wolf wrote:

Exactly!!! They are ALL responsible gun owners until.... one day they aren't. They are responsible until they
aren't for 2 minutes when they leave the house to check the mail.

Sadly, it only takes 30 second of not being responsible gun owners for someone to die.

I wish the Pro-Gun Group would understand that.

If they allowed the gun to be within arms reach of the kid, as well as have the gun loaded, they were irresponsible long before that 2 minutes prior to the shooting. Regardless if it was a kids gun or not, there is no reason is should have been loaded and and/or within his reach.

fife · May 2013

Guitar92player wrote:

the wolf wrote:

Exactly!!! They are ALL responsible gun owners until.... one day they aren't. They are responsible until they
aren't for 2 minutes when they leave the house to check the mail.

Sadly, it only takes 30 second of not being responsible gun owners for someone to die.

I wish the Pro-Gun Group would understand that.

If they allowed the gun to be within arms reach of the kid, as well as have the gun loaded, they were irresponsible long before that 2 minutes prior to the shooting. Regardless if it was a kids gun or not, there is no reason is should have been loaded and and/or within his reach.

are these 2 words not so wrong? when i was a kid a gun shot out water

know1 · May 2013

The other child should be taken from them and they should be tried for murder.

fife · May 2013

know1 wrote:

The other child should be taken from them and they should be tried for murder.

makes you wonder how the 5 year old is going to grow up knowing he killed a 2 year old

gimmesometruth27 · May 2013

the grandmother said that this was god's will.

:fp:

the wolf · May 2013

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

the grandmother said that this was god's will.

:fp:

oh, that's better i guess.

:roll:

Abe Froman · May 2013

Who the fuck gives their five year old a gun as a gift!?!?! :fp: What the fuck is wrong with people?

JK_Livin · May 2013

People are fucking crazy if they're giving guns to 5 year olds and expecting them to be responsible. What is the mentality behind something like this? I'm trying to find the right words to write about the parents but I can't.

cincybearcat · May 2013

All I know is I still don't let my 5 year old use a steak knife...or a butter knife unless I'm there. My 5 year old still gets a lid on her drink out at restaurants. And guess what? They have toppled over (not often) and because it had a lid, everyone was ok. We worry about getting water spilled on a table and on people and we don't give a shit about kids getting guns apparently.

Jason P · May 2013

JK_Livin wrote:

People are fucking crazy if they're giving guns to 5 year olds and expecting them to be responsible. What is the mentality behind something like this? I'm trying to find the right words to write about the parents but I can't.

plum dumb.

redrock · May 2013

Guitar92player wrote:

the wolf wrote:

Exactly!!! They are ALL responsible gun owners until.... one day they aren't. They are responsible until they
aren't for 2 minutes when they leave the house to check the mail.

Sadly, it only takes 30 second of not being responsible gun owners for someone to die.

I wish the Pro-Gun Group would understand that.

If they allowed the gun to be within arms reach of the kid, as well as have the gun loaded, they were irresponsible long before that 2 minutes prior to the shooting. Regardless if it was a kids gun or not, there is no reason is should have been loaded and and/or within his reach.

Yep... 'responsible gun owners'.... But, you know, accidents happen.... :?

callen · May 2013

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

the grandmother said that this was god's will.

:fp:

Its evolution.

Spoony C · May 2013

cincybearcat wrote:

All I know is I still don't let my 5 year old use a steak knife...or a butter knife unless I'm there. My 5 year old still gets a lid on her drink out at restaurants. And guess what? They have toppled over (not often) and because it had a lid, everyone was ok. We worry about getting water spilled on a table and on people and we don't give a shit about kids getting guns apparently.

That drink lid analogy is something that occurred to me this morning, too. I live in Kentucky, though fairly far from where this happened (both geographically and culturally, as I live in the heart of Louisville, the state's biggest city, and this incident was in a very rural town), and I realize that American gun culture isn't going anywhere. None of it's my bag, but I figure if you're going to have it, you should make sure children who are going to be around guns are educated about safety.

But at five years old? If the kid's young enough to need a lid on his drink, if he's leaving half-finished juice cups all over the house, if he can't be trusted to clean up his Duplo blocks after himself...I don't think he can be trusted to make sure the chamber's empty when he picks up his "My First Rifle." So he really shouldn't have a "My First Rifle." It's insane, and there should be some kind of charges against the parents (or at least the mother, who was on site at the time. Negligent homicide, or something.

Jeanwah · May 2013

Spoony C wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

All I know is I still don't let my 5 year old use a steak knife...or a butter knife unless I'm there. My 5 year old still gets a lid on her drink out at restaurants. And guess what? They have toppled over (not often) and because it had a lid, everyone was ok. We worry about getting water spilled on a table and on people and we don't give a shit about kids getting guns apparently.

That drink lid analogy is something that occurred to me this morning, too. I live in Kentucky, though fairly far from where this happened (both geographically and culturally, as I live in the heart of Louisville, the state's biggest city, and this incident was in a very rural town), and I realize that American gun culture isn't going anywhere. None of it's my bag, but I figure if you're going to have it, you should make sure children who are going to be around guns are educated about safety.

But at five years old? If the kid's young enough to need a lid on his drink, if he's leaving half-finished juice cups all over the house, if he can't be trusted to clean up his Duplo blocks after himself...I don't think he can be trusted to make sure the chamber's empty when he picks up his "My First Rifle." So he really shouldn't have a "My First Rifle." It's insane, and there should be some kind of charges against the parents (or at least the mother, who was on site at the time. Negligent homicide, or something.

Someone's got to buy the My First Rifle. And do you think the 5 year old asked for a real gun? Probably not. Again, wanted by the parents for the child. Fucked up.

Last-12-Exit · May 2013

I live in the south and here, hunting is life. I do not hunt (or own a gun) but know many people that do. And it is not uncommon to hear about somebody that I know giving their young child a gun as a gift. Of the hunters I know, most has had their young child in the woods and killed deer before the age of 8. As crazy as I think this is, most find it completely normal and their way of life.

The same parents tell me that they could leave their guns unlocked around the house and their children "know" not to mess with it because they have "taught" them not to play with the guns. I usually just shake my head and walk away after hearing these stories.

gimmesometruth27 · May 2013

9 out of 10 kids prefer crayons to guns.

5 year old boy accidently shoots and kills 2 year old sister

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