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5 year old boy accidently shoots and kills 2 year old sister

Guitar92playerGuitar92player Posts: 664
edited May 2013 in A Moving Train
Arm everyone they said....it would solve everything they said.


http://news.yahoo.com/5-old-boy-shoots- ... 29579.html


Horrible parenting.
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    I've seen this happen with children the same age. The only difference was the gun the boy used was an 18" sawed off shotgun. He accidentally shot and killed his 2 yr old sister in the stomach.

    Horrible situations that, IMO, is more of a parenting issue rather than a gun issue.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Horrible parenting? It was a "My first rifle", a gun made for children. That's the problem. (and the parenting)
    A 5-year-old boy accidentally shot his 2-year-old sister to death in rural southern Kentucky with a rifle he had received as a gift last year, authorities said.

    A bullet just happened to still be in the gun, a children's gun. WTF?? :evil:
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    I've seen this happen with children the same age. The only difference was the gun the boy used was an 18" sawed off shotgun. He accidentally shot and killed his 2 yr old sister in the stomach.

    Horrible situations that, IMO, is more of a parenting issue rather than a gun issue.

    who cares if it's more of a "parenting issue" vs. a "gun issue"...?

    gun nuts keep saying guns are safe in the hands of a "responsible" gun owner...clearly, these parents are not "responsible"...yet they can still buy guns and give them as presents to 5 year olds... :fp:
  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    inmytree wrote:
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    I've seen this happen with children the same age. The only difference was the gun the boy used was an 18" sawed off shotgun. He accidentally shot and killed his 2 yr old sister in the stomach.

    Horrible situations that, IMO, is more of a parenting issue rather than a gun issue.

    who cares if it's more of a "parenting issue" vs. a "gun issue"...?

    gun nuts keep saying guns are safe in the hands of a "responsible" gun owner...clearly, these parents are not "responsible"...yet they can still buy guns and give them as presents to 5 year olds... :fp:

    Exactly!!! They are ALL responsible gun owners until.... one day they aren't. They are responsible until they
    aren't for 2 minutes when they leave the house to check the mail.

    Sadly, it only takes 30 second of not being responsible gun owners for someone to die.

    I wish the Pro-Gun Group would understand that.
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  • Guitar92playerGuitar92player Posts: 664
    the wolf wrote:

    Exactly!!! They are ALL responsible gun owners until.... one day they aren't. They are responsible until they
    aren't for 2 minutes when they leave the house to check the mail.

    Sadly, it only takes 30 second of not being responsible gun owners for someone to die.

    I wish the Pro-Gun Group would understand that.

    If they allowed the gun to be within arms reach of the kid, as well as have the gun loaded, they were irresponsible long before that 2 minutes prior to the shooting. Regardless if it was a kids gun or not, there is no reason is should have been loaded and and/or within his reach.
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    Guitar92player wrote:
    the wolf wrote:

    Exactly!!! They are ALL responsible gun owners until.... one day they aren't. They are responsible until they
    aren't for 2 minutes when they leave the house to check the mail.

    Sadly, it only takes 30 second of not being responsible gun owners for someone to die.

    I wish the Pro-Gun Group would understand that.

    If they allowed the gun to be within arms reach of the kid, as well as have the gun loaded, they were irresponsible long before that 2 minutes prior to the shooting. Regardless if it was a kids gun or not, there is no reason is should have been loaded and and/or within his reach.

    are these 2 words not so wrong? when i was a kid a gun shot out water
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    The other child should be taken from them and they should be tried for murder.
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    know1 wrote:
    The other child should be taken from them and they should be tried for murder.

    makes you wonder how the 5 year old is going to grow up knowing he killed a 2 year old
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    the grandmother said that this was god's will.

    :fp:
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  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    the grandmother said that this was god's will.

    :fp:

    oh, that's better i guess.

    :roll:
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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,281
    Who the fuck gives their five year old a gun as a gift!?!?! :fp: What the fuck is wrong with people?
  • JK_LivinJK_Livin Posts: 7,365
    People are fucking crazy if they're giving guns to 5 year olds and expecting them to be responsible. What is the mentality behind something like this? I'm trying to find the right words to write about the parents but I can't.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
    All I know is I still don't let my 5 year old use a steak knife...or a butter knife unless I'm there. My 5 year old still gets a lid on her drink out at restaurants. And guess what? They have toppled over (not often) and because it had a lid, everyone was ok. We worry about getting water spilled on a table and on people and we don't give a shit about kids getting guns apparently.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    JK_Livin wrote:
    People are fucking crazy if they're giving guns to 5 year olds and expecting them to be responsible. What is the mentality behind something like this? I'm trying to find the right words to write about the parents but I can't.
    plum dumb.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Guitar92player wrote:
    the wolf wrote:

    Exactly!!! They are ALL responsible gun owners until.... one day they aren't. They are responsible until they
    aren't for 2 minutes when they leave the house to check the mail.

    Sadly, it only takes 30 second of not being responsible gun owners for someone to die.

    I wish the Pro-Gun Group would understand that.

    If they allowed the gun to be within arms reach of the kid, as well as have the gun loaded, they were irresponsible long before that 2 minutes prior to the shooting. Regardless if it was a kids gun or not, there is no reason is should have been loaded and and/or within his reach.


    Yep... 'responsible gun owners'.... But, you know, accidents happen.... :?
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    the grandmother said that this was god's will.

    :fp:
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  • Spoony CSpoony C Posts: 278
    cincybearcat wrote:
    All I know is I still don't let my 5 year old use a steak knife...or a butter knife unless I'm there. My 5 year old still gets a lid on her drink out at restaurants. And guess what? They have toppled over (not often) and because it had a lid, everyone was ok. We worry about getting water spilled on a table and on people and we don't give a shit about kids getting guns apparently.
    That drink lid analogy is something that occurred to me this morning, too. I live in Kentucky, though fairly far from where this happened (both geographically and culturally, as I live in the heart of Louisville, the state's biggest city, and this incident was in a very rural town), and I realize that American gun culture isn't going anywhere. None of it's my bag, but I figure if you're going to have it, you should make sure children who are going to be around guns are educated about safety.

    But at five years old? If the kid's young enough to need a lid on his drink, if he's leaving half-finished juice cups all over the house, if he can't be trusted to clean up his Duplo blocks after himself...I don't think he can be trusted to make sure the chamber's empty when he picks up his "My First Rifle." So he really shouldn't have a "My First Rifle." It's insane, and there should be some kind of charges against the parents (or at least the mother, who was on site at the time. Negligent homicide, or something.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Spoony C wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    All I know is I still don't let my 5 year old use a steak knife...or a butter knife unless I'm there. My 5 year old still gets a lid on her drink out at restaurants. And guess what? They have toppled over (not often) and because it had a lid, everyone was ok. We worry about getting water spilled on a table and on people and we don't give a shit about kids getting guns apparently.
    That drink lid analogy is something that occurred to me this morning, too. I live in Kentucky, though fairly far from where this happened (both geographically and culturally, as I live in the heart of Louisville, the state's biggest city, and this incident was in a very rural town), and I realize that American gun culture isn't going anywhere. None of it's my bag, but I figure if you're going to have it, you should make sure children who are going to be around guns are educated about safety.

    But at five years old? If the kid's young enough to need a lid on his drink, if he's leaving half-finished juice cups all over the house, if he can't be trusted to clean up his Duplo blocks after himself...I don't think he can be trusted to make sure the chamber's empty when he picks up his "My First Rifle." So he really shouldn't have a "My First Rifle." It's insane, and there should be some kind of charges against the parents (or at least the mother, who was on site at the time. Negligent homicide, or something.

    Someone's got to buy the My First Rifle. And do you think the 5 year old asked for a real gun? Probably not. Again, wanted by the parents for the child. Fucked up.
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    I live in the south and here, hunting is life. I do not hunt (or own a gun) but know many people that do. And it is not uncommon to hear about somebody that I know giving their young child a gun as a gift. Of the hunters I know, most has had their young child in the woods and killed deer before the age of 8. As crazy as I think this is, most find it completely normal and their way of life.

    The same parents tell me that they could leave their guns unlocked around the house and their children "know" not to mess with it because they have "taught" them not to play with the guns. I usually just shake my head and walk away after hearing these stories.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    9 out of 10 kids prefer crayons to guns.
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    The same parents tell me that they could leave their guns unlocked around the house and their children "know" not to mess with it because they have "taught" them not to play with the guns. I usually just shake my head and walk away after hearing these stories.

    Like kids always do the right thing. :roll: Kids 'know' they're not supposed to do lots of things because their parents taught them - but they still do. Not to mention little friends visiting.... Or 'sweet little Billy' getting into a real strop and using the gun against his little sister (yep... has been done though I'm not sure his name was Billy), etc.
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    I agree five seems too young, but every kid is different. I got my first shotgun in 3rd (maybe 4th?) grade and was more than responsible enough to handle it.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,541
    It's weird how we are hearing about these accidents more & more these days , it's almost like gun nuts wan't to prove to the antigun nuts like myself that they know how to be so responsible with their weapons case in point with this poor child who now will have to carry this burden for the rest of his' living life its a pathetic reflection on our society here in the UNITED STATES ....fuck me .... :(
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  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    i agree the parents should face charges. this wasn't a toy in the guise of a gift they gave their 5 year old....it was a fucking lethal weapon used to kill thier two year old :(
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720
    4 things..

    1. so sorry for this little kid..its really sad
    2."responsible" gun owner.there is no such thing.
    3.lock the parents in jail anf throw the key as an exable for the rest
    4.im so sorry for the 5 year old kid...his life is fucked for ever..i dont know how he will end up..isnt his fault..i guess..he thought is a toy or whatever those idiots parent told him it is..
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