Boston Marathon - explosion

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

I'm not really sure why people are confused at their lack of exit strategy. do any terrorists ever have one? isn't it all about mass casualties and eventual death?

Kat wrote:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/comfort-dogs-come-to-boston

YLed2 wrote:

Based on his track record, I wouldn't be surprised if Eric Holder tries to plea bargain the charge down to Disturbing The Peace.

But there was no way they could try him as an unlawful enemy combatant - don't understand why so many public officials tried pushing for this, you would think they would know the law.....or then again.... :-?

In another report and interview, the guy who was carjacked and had to drive these two punks around, was allowed to live and they didn't shoot him because they told him, "you don't look American." Also allegedly, they asked the guy who was carjacked while in the car, "Did you hear about the Boston explosion? I did that."

Absolute scum of the Earth people. Very happy and prideful of all the law enforcement involved who handled this situation magnificently. Very happy the city of Boston is safe now and not living in chaos.

Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev told authorities from his hospital bed Monday that he and his brother acted alone in last week's attack, officials said.

CBS News correspondent Bob Orr reports that Tsarnaev is cooperating with authorities, who have not found evidence of ties to any major terror organizations. Injured from a gunshot wound to the neck that has rendered him unable to speak, he is communicating via writing. Two officials also told The Associated Press that evidence indicated he and the second suspect, his brother, were motivated by religion.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-575 ... ted-alone/

vant0037 wrote:

It's been suggested that vengeance is the justice that people are seeking in this case. I think there's an enormous body of legal theory, philosophy and psychology supporting the idea that vengeance is smallest and perhaps least important part of "justice." Ask yourselves: when did you feel relief in this case? When you heard that he was captured? Or when you heard that he was bloodied in the process? Personally, I can say without a doubt (and I think most honest people will agree) that I felt far more relief knowing that the guy was caught than I did knowing that he had been injured or shot in the process. My secondary concern after the bombings happened (primary being the people killed or injured) was: what's next? Are there others? Will more die? It was vaguely how I felt after September 11.

Our justice system, as in many civil societies, is theoretically and largely based on restoration of order, not retribution. The media focuses on the criminals, sure, because it's interesting, it draws viewers etc (and there's a whole body of theory on why that is too). But realistically and practically speaking, criminal justice is focused on taking disorder and making it orderly again. Chaos after a bomb goes off in a crowd of innocent people...into a conviction and a state-sanctioned sentence. Our dispassionate processes ensure that no one violent criminal or act can send our world into chaos and dysfunction. For so many reasons that I do not need to elaborate on, I much prefer this scenario, as opposed to chaos after a bomb...into the chaos of mob justice.

The concern with people describing what they'd like to see done to this guy or why they're glad/satisfied/OK with whatever injuries he has is that many of us, myself included, don't just limit their opinions to these messageboards. You got out. You talk with your family. You talk with your friends. You tell your co-workers. You tell your kids. You cast votes. You sit on juries.

And sooner or later, the pernicious idea that vengeance IS justice sits in the minds of people who are able to deny due process. And when that happens, sooner or later, due process is denied in a case where the defendant truly could benefit from it (i.e. the wrongfully convicted).

What I've been arguing in this thread has nothing to do with whether I think this guy is guilty and deserves severe punishment (I do). It has everything to do with what I perceive as a concerning trend among people to allow emotion and hot-bloodedness to guide the things they say and do. Even in most cruel and awful cases, dispassionate reason must be our guide. Ask yourselves: is the benefit in capturing this guy that order and peace has been restored? Or are we happier because he's been punched, shot or injured?

I implore you: don't waste your breathe and energy and good nature wishing pain and suffering on a guy like this. He will be dealt with accordingly.

Take chaos and make it orderly.

Guitar92player wrote:

JC29856 wrote:

when you hear the word lock-down, what do you think of?

I think of the crazy nuts who think the government is planning to lock them up in FEMA camps.