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why doesn't Pearl Jam play longer concerts
Big Bank Hank
Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
I understand about festivals, but I notice most of Bruce Springsteen's concerts are well over 3 hours nowadays, of course Bruce doesn't smoke, and keeps himself in excellent shape, but they are the same types of bands,everyone talks about the final night at the Spectrum as the be all end all, but here is a Springsteen show from Helsinki, Finland in 2012, 4h37m 38 songs. Pearl Jam has a wide repertoire of songs to choose from, they could have Stone play a couple songs a night (solo stuff or write a few more songs for him to give Eddie some vocal breaks), and let all the band members have more solos, and with Eddie monologues not sure why they can't throw in at least a couple 3 to 3.5 hour shows per tour, just a thought, if the band is going to play fewer shows, at least make them longer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVCmZ7WQLNQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVCmZ7WQLNQ
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its impossible with the energy they play their shows..at that age..
i remember at 1992 they played with so crazy energy..but 10-12 songs set..now they play 25 minimum..
thats why they are the best band in the planet..cos their live shows has the same top high quility always..
and no need fancy clothes or lights or scenes to make the show better..
its the best already..
if they do a 60 shows tour and 3 hours set,the quality will go down right away..
no have to mention..there are bands out there that tix prices are double than pj and plays 45-60 min show only..
i respect Bruce,he is huge..amazing..but he cant do what eddie does on stage for more time than eddie
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
ok,that show was from another planet,but still...
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Back when they used to play 60 show tours, they were young enough to play 3 hours every night
They haven't had a hard tour schedule since 96. Maybe 98, because that Hawaii to NZ, then to Melbourne travel was a kick in the ass. We were all flying commercial on the same flights
Even in years with a lot of shows (2006 is the most recent example), rarely back to back shows, a few rare 3 nights in a row, 3 week long leg, with a minimum of 2 weeks off between legs.
even a 2006 big style tour happen,the shows will be 2 hours..its impossible to play with this energy and quality more..isnt easy at that age..
same as eddie voice..need rest..3 hours sing his lugs out ,jumping,drinking, smoking,50 years old??
isnt easy at all..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
They still play longer than most other bands.
Bruce also does 25-30 song sets too. A lot of talking and extended jams....
I would say, his gigs arent so wild, but anyway he is able to do it with quitar, with piano. And 4h30m it is incredible.
As for the quality. They are getting older, but their shows are still same long, or even longer (as Stockholm)
and compare to big tour 2000, 2003, 2006 and shows for today. 45-60 minutes sets from early ages were allright, the only have about 15 songs to play.
I think, you will play 2h45m at Wrigley and London. As I hope for you.
Anyway, It´s so lovely their shows with so much energy they give into.
Try on your skin jump a sing whole Even Flow on 100%. Their conditions at 5th decades its unbelievable. And I dont care if show has 2h or 2h35m, if crowd is allright, the night will be perfect.
2014 EU TOUR: Milano, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin - done!!!
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Honestly, I think the 1998 shows were the perfect length.
(Also: Bruce Springsteen is awful. Anything the band can do to be less like Bruce fucking Springsteen, I'm in favour of.)
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
bands COMBINED! Give credit where credit is due!!
The show you see for PJ is like NOTHING you'll ever see
by any other band or person!!! They give more than any
others are willing to give! Bruce is his own entity, and
Does nothing CLOSE to what Eddie gives to us...
Just saying..,
And I don't think the Boss is awful by any means (I like many of his ballads a LOT), but I'd way rather see a 45 minute long PJ set than a 4 hour Springsteen show! In fact, if I went to concert that long, I'd probably leave early. That's just too much no matter how awesome. My ears and eyes would need to stop.
Too much of a good thing, y'know?
Its more difficult to play music with a fast tempo. Im assuming you dont play guitar or an instrument because its easy to play a song like black thats a few chords strummed at a slow tempo rather than a faster more demanding tune like Go.
Its the reason why when a magazine asked Matt Cameron the difference about doing soundgarden shows and pj shows he spoke about how sg shows are more demanding on him.
In general the heavier and faster the band the shorter the show will be. Thats not absolute obviously. But its why most metal shows will never crack 1.5 hours and why Phish can jam and noodle for hours on end.
Yes, like this show, from first tone till last beer. I dont know, if I had energy for something more.
2014 EU TOUR: Milano, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin - done!!!
Now, when they throw out the short songs one after one, even at 2:20 the narrative is sort of broken.
But they could stop playing the songs so damn fast and make Given To Fly and Nothing as itseems 8-9 minutes each. Sure
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Around 4 hours in I start getting bored
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I think a pj show should be anywhere from 2 1/2 to 3 hours. Any more and it would just be tiresome. I remember how tired I was after philly 4, I have no clue how pj sustained that energy level throughout the show.
I've been at some marathon shows (randall's night 2, penn state, philly 4) and it's nice when those shows are the exception and not the norm, it makes them even more special.
:x
Thumbing My Way
Small Town
Society
Timeless Melody
Off He Goes
Around The Bend
Parting Ways
Army Reserve
Sad
Can't Keep
Sunburn (unreleased PJ song with Stone singing)
Bayleaf (Stone Gossard solo)
Ghost
Dirty Frank
Little Wing with a long Mike McCready solo
and the band can fill in whatever songs they want to fill the other 1.5 hours, I seriously doubt a setlist like that would kill the band, most of you are looking at this from one angle, I am looking at this from a different one, Pearl Jam likes to mix up their setlists, obviously you cannot play Alive and Porch for 3 hours straight, but what is one of the most popular albums PJ has made amongst it's hardcore fans? Live at Benroya Hall, 3 hours of that will not kill the band,or 1.5 hours of that and 1.5 hours of normal hard rocking stuff would not either
http://pearljam.com/setlists/1021/all/20438/van_andel_arena?ref_album_id=18592
cant play an non acoustic show,and roickin like that in that age and ed screaming 3 hours..impossible
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I don't want Ed screaming for 3 hours, but one or two shows a year where they throw in a 1 to 1.5 hours chill set where they are sitting down and Ed is shooting the shit with the crowd would be a really cool mix up