Majority of Americans want marijuana legalized

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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    I've been saying this for a few years... It's in the best interest of the government to tax and regulate marijuana. The gov't is in a shit hole, the economy is worse. If they refuse to take advantage of the opportunity then Congress really does insist on continuing to self injure the country, and the country's future.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I've been saying this for a few years... It's in the best interest of the government to tax and regulate marijuana. The gov't is in a shit hole, the economy is worse. If they refuse to take advantage of the opportunity then Congress really does insist on continuing to self injure the country, and the country's future.

    so youre for giving the govt more money to flush down the crapper??
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  • Chip McFlennigan
    Chip McFlennigan Posts: 1,162
    Only evil criminals do the whacky tobacky!

    I'm looking at you, atheists, gays, women, blacks, immigrants, and communists! You'll never get away with this! :nono:
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Chip McFlennigan wrote:
    Only evil criminals do the whacky tobacky!

    I'm looking at you, atheists, gays, women, blacks, immigrants, and communists! You'll never get away with this! :nono:

    please tell me this is a joke.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
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    catefrances wrote:
    and how would they tax my plants growing behind the garage??? would they make growing marijuana illegal??? or would there need to be some sort of regulation squad going around checking on those registered growers to make sure they were paying their dues and not growing too many plants??? may as well try and regulate dandelions.

    I'm guessing it would be the same as cigarettes and alcohol. can someone potentially grow and their own tobacco? yes, they could. I don't know about the US or Australia, but here in Canada, we are allowed to brew our own wine and beer. Of course, unless you are a brewmaster, you still have to buy the tin of beer mix, which is taxed. But maybe they'd be willing to sell the seeds and tax those.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    Chip McFlennigan wrote:
    Only evil criminals do the whacky tobacky!

    I'm looking at you, atheists, gays, women, blacks, immigrants, and communists! You'll never get away with this! :nono:

    please tell me this is a joke.
    I'm pretty sure it is :)

    I'm curious - what if I had a garden full of trees and fruits and vegetables, and wanted to sell them to or barter with my neighbors. In general, is that considered a private transaction or subject to taxes?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Legalize it and tax the hell out of it.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    JimmyV wrote:
    Legalize it and tax the hell out of it.

    hows about just legalise it. no tax. no fines... omg somebody ate all the pie... whats wrong with that? as far as im concerned taxing something doesnt automatically make it legitimate. the govt cant even be trusted with the taxes they recieve now.. giving them more isnt gonna help the economy if theyre already too inept to balance their cheque book.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    catefrances wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Legalize it and tax the hell out of it.

    hows about just legalise it. no tax. no fines... omg somebody ate all the pie... whats wrong with that? as far as im concerned taxing something doesnt automatically make it legitimate. the govt cant even be trusted with the taxes they recieve now.. giving them more isnt gonna help the economy if theyre already too inept to balance their cheque book.

    Don't want to pay the tobacco tax? Don't smoke cigarettes.

    Don't want to pay the alcohol tax? Don't drink booze.

    Don't want to pay the marijuana tax? Don't smoke pot.

    These are easy taxes to opt out of.
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  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    clearly polls should not be believed unless they are polls in your favor
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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    JimmyV wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Legalize it and tax the hell out of it.

    hows about just legalise it. no tax. no fines... omg somebody ate all the pie... whats wrong with that? as far as im concerned taxing something doesnt automatically make it legitimate. the govt cant even be trusted with the taxes they recieve now.. giving them more isnt gonna help the economy if theyre already too inept to balance their cheque book.

    Don't want to pay the tobacco tax? Don't smoke cigarettes.

    Don't want to pay the alcohol tax? Don't drink booze.

    Don't want to pay the marijuana tax? Don't smoke pot.

    These are easy taxes to opt out of.

    Right. I will never understand the "don't tax anything" viewpoint. Taxes are in fact good – they are dues we pay to enjoy the numerous vital benefits that government provides for our society. Taxes are our dues — we pay our dues to be Americans and enjoy the benefits of American society. Taxes are what we pay to live in a civilized society that offers opportunity, and has a huge infrastructure available to all citizens. This infrastructure has been paid for by previous taxpayers. Roads and highways, the Internet, the broadcast airwaves, our public education system, our power grid — every day we all use this vast infrastructure. Our dues maintain it.

    It is about being a member, a part of the community. People pay a membership fee to join a gym, the local YMCA, or a club for which they get to use the basketball courts, the swimming pool, and the golf course. They did not pay for these facilities with their own memberships. They were built and paid for by other members, and all the current members maintain them with their dues. It is the same thing with our country — being a member in good standing of a remarkable nation. Americans pay their dues.
  • Chip McFlennigan
    Chip McFlennigan Posts: 1,162
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    Chip McFlennigan wrote:
    Only evil criminals do the whacky tobacky!

    I'm looking at you, atheists, gays, women, blacks, immigrants, and communists! You'll never get away with this! :nono:

    please tell me this is a joke.

    Woosh?
    I knew it all along, see?
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    JimmyV wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Legalize it and tax the hell out of it.

    hows about just legalise it. no tax. no fines... omg somebody ate all the pie... whats wrong with that? as far as im concerned taxing something doesnt automatically make it legitimate. the govt cant even be trusted with the taxes they recieve now.. giving them more isnt gonna help the economy if theyre already too inept to balance their cheque book.

    Don't want to pay the tobacco tax? Don't smoke cigarettes.

    Don't want to pay the alcohol tax? Don't drink booze.

    Don't want to pay the marijuana tax? Don't smoke pot.

    These are easy taxes to opt out of.


    dont wanna pay the marijuana tax... grow your own. ;)8-)

    but seriously its not even about not wanting to pay a marijuana tax... my questions are about why does taxing something automatically become part of the equation when speaking of making something legal? and why would you trust the govt with more money than youre already giving them when theyre doing a shithouse job of balancing their budget?
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  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    Chip McFlennigan wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    Chip McFlennigan wrote:
    Only evil criminals do the whacky tobacky!

    I'm looking at you, atheists, gays, women, blacks, immigrants, and communists! You'll never get away with this! :nono:

    please tell me this is a joke.

    Woosh?


    Bazinga? :D
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    JimmyV wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    JimmyV wrote:
    Legalize it and tax the hell out of it.

    hows about just legalise it. no tax. no fines... omg somebody ate all the pie... whats wrong with that? as far as im concerned taxing something doesnt automatically make it legitimate. the govt cant even be trusted with the taxes they recieve now.. giving them more isnt gonna help the economy if theyre already too inept to balance their cheque book.

    Don't want to pay the tobacco tax? Don't smoke cigarettes.

    Don't want to pay the alcohol tax? Don't drink booze.

    Don't want to pay the marijuana tax? Don't smoke pot.

    These are easy taxes to opt out of.

    Don't want the government to take all of our money? Stop letting them create new taxes.

    I don't really understand the government putting extra taxes on the things that are bad for us. If they're that bad keep them illegal. If they're not bad enough to ban, then leave them alone.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    catefrances wrote:

    but seriously its not even about not wanting to pay a marijuana tax... my questions are about why does taxing something automatically become part of the equation when speaking of making something legal? and why would you trust the govt with more money than youre already giving them when theyre doing a shithouse job of balancing their budget?

    This is exactly what I'm asking. It's like the argument is coming from robots without stopping to think what they're saying.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    catefrances wrote:


    dont wanna pay the marijuana tax... grow your own. ;)8-)

    but seriously its not even about not wanting to pay a marijuana tax... my questions are about why does taxing something automatically become part of the equation when speaking of making something legal? and why would you trust the govt with more money than youre already giving them when theyre doing a shithouse job of balancing their budget?

    I hear you. In almost every other case I would probably agree. But revenue is necessary and not all taxes are necessarily bad. I think in the case of marijuana it fits in so easily with booze and cigarettes, which are already so heavily taxed but still bought in bulk by some, that it is only logical to tax it. If it could replace an existing tax even better. A pipe dream (pun intended) I know. :D
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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    know1 wrote:
    catefrances wrote:

    but seriously its not even about not wanting to pay a marijuana tax... my questions are about why does taxing something automatically become part of the equation when speaking of making something legal? and why would you trust the govt with more money than youre already giving them when theyre doing a shithouse job of balancing their budget?

    This is exactly what I'm asking. It's like the argument is coming from robots without stopping to think what they're saying.

    Tell me, exactly how is America supposed to climb out of the shit hole it is in, without having citizens pay taxes, especially the rich ones. Do you drive on highways? Do you rely on firemen to come save you if your house catches on fire? Do you go to any national or state parks? How about your local Y? If you don't use anything that's PAID WITH TAXES, then you, sir, live in a hole.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Jeanwah wrote:

    Right. I will never understand the "don't tax anything" viewpoint. Taxes are in fact good – they are dues we pay to enjoy the numerous vital benefits that government provides for our society. Taxes are our dues — we pay our dues to be Americans and enjoy the benefits of American society. Taxes are what we pay to live in a civilized society that offers opportunity, and has a huge infrastructure available to all citizens. This infrastructure has been paid for by previous taxpayers. Roads and highways, the Internet, the broadcast airwaves, our public education system, our power grid — every day we all use this vast infrastructure. Our dues maintain it.

    It is about being a member, a part of the community. People pay a membership fee to join a gym, the local YMCA, or a club for which they get to use the basketball courts, the swimming pool, and the golf course. They did not pay for these facilities with their own memberships. They were built and paid for by other members, and all the current members maintain them with their dues. It is the same thing with our country — being a member in good standing of a remarkable nation. Americans pay their dues.

    But where does it end? There are always new things to tax, but what taxes are they cutting out?

    I'm not against the principle of taxes, but don't like it when I see the government take and take and take and show no fiscal responsibility. The government should set a reasonable budget and figure out how to bring in enough income to cover it. Instead, it just keeps taking more and doesn't seem to have much of a plan on what it is spending it on.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Jeanwah wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    catefrances wrote:

    but seriously its not even about not wanting to pay a marijuana tax... my questions are about why does taxing something automatically become part of the equation when speaking of making something legal? and why would you trust the govt with more money than youre already giving them when theyre doing a shithouse job of balancing their budget?

    This is exactly what I'm asking. It's like the argument is coming from robots without stopping to think what they're saying.

    Tell me, exactly how is America supposed to climb out of the shit hole it is in, without having citizens pay taxes, especially the rich ones. Do you drive on highways? Do you rely on firemen to come save you if your house catches on fire? Do you go to any national or state parks? How about your local Y? If you don't use anything that's PAID WITH TAXES, then you, sir, live in a hole.

    How about some significant CUTS in the budget? And by the way when is the last time someone saw a budget?

    I'm not against taxes, but I think our government has its hands in far too many things and keeps requiring more and more money from its citizens as well as going deeper and deeper into debt.

    I'm not against taxes and I'm not against the government running the things you mentioned. I am against a lot of the other ways it wastes money.
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    ...are those who've helped us.

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