Cinci show. Club changes

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,836
    yes the system has been in place for like ever and it seems that the newer fans to the club are the ones making all the noise or should i say waves, but this is the first time i really have heard so many complaints as if the band owes the complainers something i gave up going to other shows so i would not have to deal with ticket monsters . try and score tickets to u2 allmost impossible unless you are willing to pay hundreds of dollars for a decent seat.so thanks to 10c keep the system like it is.
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  • mozman88
    mozman88 Posts: 38
    Sexy2aFault wrote:
    No it does not, the argument rages.. There is some dick on the Pitts thread who was the only person complaining about the show because it was full of songs he had heard in 9 other cities...He was "Not into the show" because he is a spoiled fuck...
    I'd have to agree that SOME but not ALL of these spoiled Ten Clubbers take it for granted. The best idea I recall is the every 4th set of tickets is randomly given to higher numbers. I can't complain like most of the bitchers on this board. This band is great and I'm happy to be in the building!!
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  • merlin401
    merlin401 Posts: 230
    Motown322 wrote:
    Bottom line is this: there isn't a single person here complaining that didn't know the drill coming in. Allocation is based on seniority. .
    The only thing I guess is that if you're a 20 year old die-hard fan, then you never had the opportunity to be in 10 club from the beginning. It would be cool for people like that to get a chance at the front now and again...
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  • Truth Machine
    Truth Machine Posts: 113
    Ahhh yes. Thread number 4598 concerning Ten Club tickets. Who gives a shit where people are from or how many shows they attend? Well, obviously some of you people do I just understand why. It's as if joining the Ten Club means that you can bitch about anything and everything concerning the band. Just be happy that you're in the building.
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  • grandr0yal
    grandr0yal Posts: 67
    Im not 10c, but i will be next week.

    Ive been a huge fan of pearl jam for over 10 years and i rock out just as hard as any of you do and appriciate the shows just as much as any of you.. Meanwhile, i was first in line at 10am at ticketmaster, bought my tickets at 10:01am and i got B16 row F, where i could barely make out who was who on stage at the pittsburgh show.

    Hometown rule would be cool. And hometown 10c senority rule would be cool. This is just my opinion.
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  • grandr0yal
    grandr0yal Posts: 67
    merlin401 wrote:
    The only thing I guess is that if you're a 20 year old die-hard fan, then you never had the opportunity to be in 10 club from the beginning. It would be cool for people like that to get a chance at the front now and again...


    im 20. im die hard. i wish i could see the faces of the band members, and i did my very best to get the best possible tickets available to me.
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  • stonewastheprblm
    stonewastheprblm Posts: 60
    What the original poster neglected to realize is that for people from Florida (as he mentioned) that was their "hometown" show as it was the closest to their home.

    Nonetheless, I came from Boston and had second row. Took a big chug off the wine bottle during Crazy Mary. Took about 6 shits in my hotel over the weekend and bounced out of there. Thanks Cincy! The last one I left a floater. See you next tour!
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  • Motown322
    Motown322 Posts: 465
    grandr0yal wrote:
    Hometown rule would be cool. And hometown 10c senority rule would be cool. This is just my opinion.

    But the problem lies in how do you determine hometown? Say I live in Detroit now but I just moved here 3 years ago and Boston is my "hometown"? If I live in central NJ and they play in Philly and NYC (but nowhere in Jersey itself), how do you determine which show is your home show (they're the same distance away? Way too many variables, IMO. Leave the system how it is.
  • Vital73
    Vital73 Posts: 34
    You know about 13 years ago I was in the last row of the Seattle Center Arena seeing one of my favorite all time concerts, PJ of course. This is still in my top 3 shows ever. I did wish I could see their faces on stage but nonetheless that show has stuck with me to this day and is a big reason I still come out to the shows.

    After I got my tix I was bummed as to where I was sitting and I heard somewhere that fan club members get ticket priority. Back then it was just being able to buy them without going through ticketbastard and it was the day after that show when I sent in my $ for my membership. My only regret? Not joining after I bought TEN two years prior. I thought I should the first time I heard the disc but decided I didn't want to be a fan clubber. Stupid me. Even so I have a 5 digit number and get great seats every show I go to. Why? Because I was fortunate enough to join all those years ago and renew year after year. My way of thanking the band is staying in the fan club, buying all their music and other shit they sell, and going to every show I can. If you were not lucky enough to join early on and get a low number and access to up close seats, that really sucks. Really it does, but there are only a few seats down in front. What better way to reward the fans that have been there since the early days and are still here today than to have them up front? And who cares who you are sitting next to at a show or where they come from as long as they are enjoying the experience right along with you?

    Keep it how it is 10c, you guys fucking rock. Remember we are all here for the music, it is not a contest to see who can get front row. I have only been front row one time and that was at a GA show at the Key. Those of you that always get first two rows, more power to ya. I'll be behind you rockin out right along with you. Just like the people in the back of the arena and the sides, etc. Just go and enjoy the music and the experience of seeing our favorite band play our favorite music live and in person.

    Just my 2cents.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,264
    grandr0yal wrote:
    Im not 10c, but i will be next week.

    Ive been a huge fan of pearl jam for over 10 years and i rock out just as hard as any of you do and appriciate the shows just as much as any of you.. Meanwhile, i was first in line at 10am at ticketmaster, bought my tickets at 10:01am and i got B16 row F, where i could barely make out who was who on stage at the pittsburgh show.

    Hometown rule would be cool. And hometown 10c senority rule would be cool. This is just my opinion.

    Should have joined 10 years ago. Just sayin'.....don't bite.
  • jsnlee
    jsnlee Posts: 11
    I have a not so good 10c number, but I have the opportunity to get seats before the rest of the public. That should be good enough. If you want to sit closer, go find a broker or some knucklehead on eBay. Kudos to those with higher numbers who renew their membership every year, you do deserve something for that. As for me and my low number, hopefully as the years go by, some won't renew or will forget and I will get the chance to sit closer. I think it's fine the way it is. How can you punish those who are dedicated enough to stay in the club for so many years? Just doesn't seem right.
  • Motown322
    Motown322 Posts: 465
    jsnlee wrote:
    I think it's fine the way it is. How can you punish those who are dedicated enough to stay in the club for so many years? Just doesn't seem right.

    Because it's not the absolute best situation and good ticket opportunity FOR ME. That's why. :) It's all about how much they can get out of it. Would they give up their 10C tickets on the back of the floor for someone up in the rafters simply to give the nosebleeder the chance to get down there? I highly doubt it. Yet they want people who have put countless years in supporting the band and club to give up their seats simply because "they're being selfish and it's not fair?" Horseshit, if you ask me.

    Whiners might say, "That's not fair... just 'cause I didn't join until 2 years ago shouldn't mean I can't get the best seats." I say, "I've put in 11 years. Deal with it."

    Go into work tomorrow and whine because the guy in the big office who's been there 25 years gets 6 weeks of vacation, and you only get 2 but you should get 6 because "it's not fair" and "I can't help the fact that I've only been working here 4 months" and "he just sits around on his vacation anyway and I've got a trip to Mammoth Cave all planned... IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!" Let us know when the boss stops laughing.
  • grandr0yal
    grandr0yal Posts: 67
    Motown322 wrote:
    Because it's not the absolute best situation and good ticket opportunity FOR ME. That's why. :) It's all about how much they can get out of it. Would they give up their 10C tickets on the back of the floor for someone up in the rafters simply to give the nosebleeder the chance to get down there? I highly doubt it. Yet they want people who have put countless years in supporting the band and club to give up their seats simply because "they're being selfish and it's not fair?" Horseshit, if you ask me.

    Whiners might say, "That's not fair... just 'cause I didn't join until 2 years ago shouldn't mean I can't get the best seats." I say, "I've put in 11 years. Deal with it."

    Go into work tomorrow and whine because the guy in the big office who's been there 25 years gets 6 weeks of vacation, and you only get 2 but you should get 6 because "it's not fair" and "I can't help the fact that I've only been working here 4 months" and "he just sits around on his vacation anyway and I've got a trip to Mammoth Cave all planned... IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!" Let us know when the boss stops laughing.

    Has nothing to do with dedication to a club that you send money to each year. It has everything to do with you are no bigger fan than I because of it. Its that simple. I dont really give a shit to be honest, i just dont like the way you put your metaphor.
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  • gettingright
    gettingright Posts: 550
    It would be nice if this could be discussed in a nice calm fashion.

    I agree that senority should play a role in your seating, but I also think an opportunity for other fan club members with high numbers to sit close would be nice, too.

    The only way 10C would change the way they do things is if they thought enough people with high numbers would not renew if they kept their current practice.

    The fact is that low number fan club members are in the minority. And, if the 10C did decided to change their distribution practices, its not very likely that the low fan club numbers won't renew because of it.

    I think a nice solution would be that per leg of a tour you can pick one priority/hometown show with the tickets distributed by senority (prioity senority then regular senority). Everyone for that show that picks "priority" goes to the front of the line. You would only have a priority option if you have already been in the fan club for x amount of years (probably like 5). This avoids people or scalpers from joining up to get a priority show.

    I think this solution would be fair for all.

    Lastly, it is not fair to blast people for wanting a change. Do we blast e.v. when he asks people to "vote for change?" Pacisivism is how we got the Third Reich (I'm certainly not comparing the two, just using an extreme to make a point).

    Remember, we are all friends here. Let's respect others views and wishes. There is no need to unconstructively criticize someone's opinion.....especially when the chance for distributing fan club tickets any other way then the current status quo is slim and none.

    While I'm in favor of some kind of change, I respect that some people, low and high numbers alike, would prefer to maintain the current system. But, I like change and am always for trying something out. If it doesn't work then try something else or go back to the way it was.

    Have a great night everyone!
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  • Motown322
    Motown322 Posts: 465
    grandr0yal wrote:
    Has nothing to do with dedication to a club that you send money to each year. It has everything to do with you are no bigger fan than I because of it. Its that simple. I dont really give a shit to be honest, i just dont like the way you put your metaphor.

    Not claiming to be a better or bigger fan. All I'm saying is that the pissing and moaning around here about this tired old subject is about as predictable as the shits after a 12-pack of Busch Light. It's boring. It's not going to change because the system right now, like it or not, WORKS.

    Hell, I wish I could've had front row seats in Cleveland and Detroit last month, but I had great seats through the 10C and I'm not going to bitch about it. Shit, half these whiners would probably get front row and then complain because they were too far off to the right or they didn't get a drumstick or Eddie didn't invite them backstage to drink and watch TV and play cards.
  • Columbus_George
    Columbus_George Posts: 16
    Spinbrett wrote:
    How many people of the first 20 rows were actually from Ohio?

    Well 2 for sure.

    I am from Columbus, OH. Me and my friend were on the floor in the 3rd Row, Section 2 (middle section) seats 11 & 12. Of course I have been in the 10C for a while (member number range 105xxx). I joined the 10C around 1993-94 as I recall as #3 was my first Xmas single I got in the mail but I let my membership lapse for a period and probably lost my original seniority...uggghhh. But I certainly can't complain about the great seats I have been getting). Cinci is the only show I will probably see this tour unless they happen to come to Columbus. I was going to do Cleveland too, but I waited too long to order FC tickets and missed out. Doh!!! I am a big fan of PJ's but with the exception of the Kitchener, London and Hamilton, Ontario Trifecta (Sept 11-13, 2005) I typically see them when they come to Ohio. I am ashamed and totally bummed that I didn't see them for the first time until 1996 in Toledo, OH. PJ had been to Ohio 9 times before then.
    George

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  • Spinbrett
    Spinbrett Posts: 251
    I am going to write to the fan club and ask them to read this post. Many of you had great ideas such as priority picks for your homestown areas and even a random system for high numbers to get a chance to get close. With so many voices having concern, maybe they will find a better way to make ALL fan club content at concert time instead of the people that were lucky enough to join in 93-94. It's an outdated system and with some good effort and thought, it can be improved. Thank you for your input people. Go PJ!
  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    the argument that they are rewarding those who have been in the ten club the longest doesnt really hold water when they grandfather you back in to the system if you let your number lapse... I joined in like 98 or 97 dont remember... my number is 166xxx, It lapsed and I got back in in '00, lapsed again and got back in in '03... LAPSED AGAIN and got back in right before Gorge last year...

    I think they keep the system the way it is is because it is simple, bottom line... I've got a pretty decent number and my membership has lapsed 4 times with years in between renewals... go figure
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  • Spinbrett
    Spinbrett Posts: 251
    I think they keep the system the way it is is because it is simple, bottom line... I've got a pretty decent number and my membership has lapsed 4 times with years in between renewals... go figure
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    All the more reason to change the outdated system. Just renew right before they decide to go tour, and then don't pay the years they take off. If you never lose your number, you have nothing to fear. I can't believe they let it get to this point.
  • Thunderclap
    Thunderclap Lexington, KY Posts: 108
    Nixon in Detroit wrote:
    My other Idea is to put anyone who bought 10 club tickets into a lottery for the first 3 rows then seniority after that. You have to look at it this way the people who are in the first few rows have been paying dues to the 10 club for how long?

    I've been a supporter of that idea for a while now *thumbsup* only I think it should be first row, maybe second tops. That keeps the old-timers still in the pick-zone

    They used to do something like the home-town thing when I signed up. You could pick two tickets to one show only, and I really didn't have a problem with that. It sounded fair at the time and still sounds fair. If they go back to that method I won't be pissed at all. Disappointed maybe, but I'll get over it. The lawn has it's advantages :cool:
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