Red Wings to the East!!

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,558
    lukin2006 wrote:
    If I was Holland I'd trade Franzen, Filpula and Howard all preferably for draft picks ... The reason I'd get rid of Howard is he wants 6-7 and close to 6 million.
    I think you would be nuts to trade Howard. He is the only reason they are still in the race for a playoff spot. He is worth $6M/YR in my opinion. Sounds like they are close to a contract extension as we speak ... er, type.

    Franzen is untradable with his contract. I call it the Luongo Effect. He is due $5M/YR for the next three years. He isn't playing $5M hockey right now. If we could trade him, I think it makes a lot of sense. Pavel will need a contract extension next season ($7M-$8M) and with Howard getting paid, we can't afford to keep Franzen on the team.
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  • chadwick
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    peacefrompaul wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
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    red wings 938

    Really good boots
    yes, sir. and from what i understand red wing also makes a hockey team. if their hockey team is 1/3 as badass as their boots... forget about it.
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  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    Jason P wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    If I was Holland I'd trade Franzen, Filpula and Howard all preferably for draft picks ... The reason I'd get rid of Howard is he wants 6-7 and close to 6 million.
    I think you would be nuts to trade Howard. He is the only reason they are still in the race for a playoff spot. He is worth $6M/YR in my opinion. Sounds like they are close to a contract extension as we speak ... er, type.

    Franzen is untradable with his contract. I call it the Luongo Effect. He is due $5M/YR for the next three years. He isn't playing $5M hockey right now. If we could trade him, I think it makes a lot of sense. Pavel will need a contract extension next season ($7M-$8M) and with Howard getting paid, we can't afford to keep Franzen on the team.
    I think Pavel is going to go back to Russia when his contract is up.. I have heard talk of this..
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  • even flow - question mark
    even flow - question mark Posts: 1,568
    lukin2006 wrote:

    I also think the fans make Montreal vs Toronto a great rivalry ...

    I stand by by Bettman comment. :!: :D

    Yeah, you'd think the fans would make it a great rivalry, but as a Red Wing fan, ah no.

    I I just tugging your chain, it is a good rivalry. But nothing beats sitting up high in Maple Leaf Gardens with all the Windsor fans and me embarrasing my Leaf friend with our red shirts and partying. Ah good times indeed.

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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Jason P wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    If I was Holland I'd trade Franzen, Filpula and Howard all preferably for draft picks ... The reason I'd get rid of Howard is he wants 6-7 and close to 6 million.
    I think you would be nuts to trade Howard. He is the only reason they are still in the race for a playoff spot. He is worth $6M/YR in my opinion. Sounds like they are close to a contract extension as we speak ... er, type.

    Franzen is untradable with his contract. I call it the Luongo Effect. He is due $5M/YR for the next three years. He isn't playing $5M hockey right now. If we could trade him, I think it makes a lot of sense. Pavel will need a contract extension next season ($7M-$8M) and with Howard getting paid, we can't afford to keep Franzen on the team.

    McGuire on NBC has mentioned that Pavel may look to go to the KHL to finish out his career ... he'll be 36 near the end of that contract. I personally think the wings are in the bottom half of the NHL ... they need to accumulate some 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks ... in order to do that you need to move assets. But everything is subjective to opinion ... Howard hasn't shown me he's the type goalie that can carry a team on his shoulder for more than a few games at a time.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Caveeze wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    If I was Holland I'd trade Franzen, Filpula and Howard all preferably for draft picks ... The reason I'd get rid of Howard is he wants 6-7 and close to 6 million.
    I think you would be nuts to trade Howard. He is the only reason they are still in the race for a playoff spot. He is worth $6M/YR in my opinion. Sounds like they are close to a contract extension as we speak ... er, type.

    Franzen is untradable with his contract. I call it the Luongo Effect. He is due $5M/YR for the next three years. He isn't playing $5M hockey right now. If we could trade him, I think it makes a lot of sense. Pavel will need a contract extension next season ($7M-$8M) and with Howard getting paid, we can't afford to keep Franzen on the team.
    I think Pavel is going to go back to Russia when his contract is up.. I have heard talk of this..

    :lol::lol::lol: I just typed that as well ... if thats really the case and the wings think that is a possibility then I would consider moving him at the deadline as well.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    even flow - question mark wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:

    I also think the fans make Montreal vs Toronto a great rivalry ...

    I stand by by Bettman comment. :!: :D

    Yeah, you'd think the fans would make it a great rivalry, but as a Red Wing fan, ah no.

    I I just tugging your chain, it is a good rivalry. But nothing beats sitting up high in Maple Leaf Gardens with all the Windsor fans and me embarrasing my Leaf friend with our red shirts and partying. Ah good times indeed.

    I think their both good rivalries ... the rivalry I miss the most is Quebec vs Montreal.
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  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    A player like Pavel can act like he wants to go back, put a rumor out there, and command some big money for an extension.. I am hoping he retires from hockey as a Red Wing, but at what cost to the team?.. He is a bad mutha!!
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  • even flow - question mark
    even flow - question mark Posts: 1,568
    lukin2006 wrote:
    even flow - question mark wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:

    I also think the fans make Montreal vs Toronto a great rivalry ...

    I stand by by Bettman comment. :!: :D

    Yeah, you'd think the fans would make it a great rivalry, but as a Red Wing fan, ah no.

    I I just tugging your chain, it is a good rivalry. But nothing beats sitting up high in Maple Leaf Gardens with all the Windsor fans and me embarrasing my Leaf friend with our red shirts and partying. Ah good times indeed.

    I think their both good rivalries ... the rivalry I miss the most is Quebec vs Montreal.


    Now you're talking.

    Isn't that rivalry where the premeditated fighting started? I swear they drew that up on the chalk boards before they hit the ice. When Hunter brother is fighting Hunter brother, you know the teams don't like each other.

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  • Nami
    Nami Newfoundland Posts: 5,998
    [/quote]

    Personally I think a house cleaning is in order ... Filpulia and Franzen could both be traded, at this stage I'd want draft picks. I see can Ignila going to Pittsburgh for draft picks. The only problem I see when trying to obtain Bouwmeester is Calgary might want draft picks. I think Detroit trading so many high draft picks over the years is finally catching up with them. Montreal stayed successful from the 50's to 90's by hanging onto their draft picks.

    I know Detroit sports radio loves to rave about Detroit drafting prowess because they nabbed a couple really good players in the 6th round or later, but you really don't do it that often.

    If I was Holland I'd trade Franzen, Filpula and Howard all preferably for draft picks ... The reason I'd get rid of Howard is he wants 6-7 and close to 6 million.[/quote]

    Howard wanting 6-7 wow... no way. Franzen and Flipula would be good offers to any team. Not sure why White has not been in the line up as well, healthy scratch. Better than Quincy and Erik imo.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,558
    Caveeze wrote:
    I think Pavel is going to go back to Russia when his contract is up.. I have heard talk of this..
    That makes me feel like this ...

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  • Nami
    Nami Newfoundland Posts: 5,998
    Jason P wrote:
    Caveeze wrote:
    I think Pavel is going to go back to Russia when his contract is up.. I have heard talk of this..
    That makes me feel like this ...

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSwpOWBvb948mdBGfDohgprWap7-rGlbcGChCzCp91atv5n-b9zVQ

    Damn... hope not.
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  • jlaustin
    jlaustin Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 2,355
    Love that Detroit will be on the Eastern conference - about time! I agree that it would be great if there was a way to get Chicago there too. Can't they do something with those Florida teams? :lol:
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,951
    jlaustin wrote:
    Love that Detroit will be on the Eastern conference - about time! I agree that it would be great if there was a way to get Chicago there too. Can't they do something with those Florida teams? :lol:


    I know, right?

    Sucks there wont be as many Hawks-Wings games, but definitely makes sense for the Wings to be in the east.
  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    jlaustin wrote:
    Love that Detroit will be on the Eastern conference - about time! I agree that it would be great if there was a way to get Chicago there too. Can't they do something with those Florida teams? :lol:
    no shit.. There must be a way!!! florida, carolina, columbus.. all these teams should be easily shuffled
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  • jlaustin
    jlaustin Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 2,355
    Caveeze wrote:
    jlaustin wrote:
    Love that Detroit will be on the Eastern conference - about time! I agree that it would be great if there was a way to get Chicago there too. Can't they do something with those Florida teams? :lol:
    no shit.. There must be a way!!! florida, carolina, columbus.. all these teams should be easily shuffled


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  • even flow - question mark
    even flow - question mark Posts: 1,568
    Caveeze wrote:
    jlaustin wrote:
    Love that Detroit will be on the Eastern conference - about time! I agree that it would be great if there was a way to get Chicago there too. Can't they do something with those Florida teams? :lol:
    no shit.. There must be a way!!! florida, carolina, columbus.. all these teams should be easily shuffled

    The league could actually pay attention to the fans and move all the teams that have a reputation into one divison and teams like the ones you have mentioned and a couple of others can make up the other division. Proof of crap teams making the grade???? How many times does the number three seed in the east get smoked by number six in the first round of the playoffs. Oh that's right in a real world of points, that number three team would really be seven or eight or sometimes not even make the playoffs.

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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    chadwick wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    red%20wing_938.jpg
    red wings 938

    Really good boots
    yes, sir. and from what i understand red wing also makes a hockey team. if their hockey team is 1/3 as badass as their boots... forget about it.

    :lol:

    Too bad the boots are from Red WIng, MN :lol:
  • Nami
    Nami Newfoundland Posts: 5,998
    Time to change the oil... Wings need a win tonight.

    Man just looked at the schedule for the rest of March... DAMN. Vancouver, Anaheim, Minnesota, Chicago, Phoenix, and San jose....double damn
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  • RoughMix
    RoughMix back of a lorry Posts: 385
    Last night was a prime example why you get Howard signed.Maybe not exactly what he is asking,but he has to be signed.
    If Pavel wants to leave at the end of his deal-that's his decision.But,the Wings have to try and convince him to stay.The ot winner last night just shows how explosive he can be.Turned Petry into a corksrew and ripped it -top corner.Lidstrom used to make waves about returning to Sweden,and would eventually sign.
    I've heard also that Datsyuk loved playing in Russia during the lockout and wanted to stay....we'll see.
    The power play and road record has to improve or the Wings are done.
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