Stubhub Inventory Going Up

RE4790 · February 2013

Blood Red Mosquito wrote:

dmbolp wrote:

Create a listing on Stubhub. Just pick one of the 500 sections, and "sell" a single ticket for $1000 so that no one buys it. Once complete, go into the YOUR ACCOUNT link and click on the COMPARE link. This allows you to look at any/every section and see sold prices, unsold prices, and price alerts (as a buyer, you can put in a price that once tickets are available for, Stubhub will send you an alert).

And keep in mind, a ton of people have done this, so there probably is less than 1,000 tickets really for sale, again with 2,200 already sold. So I'm starting to side with the folks saying that scalpers don't have a lot of the tickets. Or, all tickets haven't been released yet. Just think of the great press the band would get if in a month or so they announce "we held back 20,000 tickets to allow the scalpers to do their thing, and now we have a great method to get half the tickets in the hands of real fans...will call!"

Interesting stuff. Thanks

I disagree with the premise that less than 1000 of the 1400 tickets on stubhub are real offers. The ticket for London that is $100k is probably a fake offer, but very few others are at this point. It doesn't benefit the scalper much now that the secondary market has been running for a week and the high margin panic buyers have already bought. There are other ways to game the system or they could watch ebay. How about this: What would stop a scalper from buying tickets from themselves to keep the prices inflated? A small service charge?

And there is no way a large number of tickets (>1000) haven''t been sold yet. Do you really think PJ is so huge that Wrigley would lie about it being the "fastest sell out in the whole history of everz!!!!" if they were holding a large number back. A wicked cool idea, but PJ is not that powerful.

dmbolp · February 2013

It's not just scalpers who have fake listings. Anyone who wants to pay as little as possible for tickets should be monitoring actual sale prices. All this info I'm posting about scalping is to help everyone here eventually get tickets as cheaply as possible.

The best way to beat the scalpers? Understand how the system works, and watch how pricing moves.

RE4790 · February 2013

dmbolp wrote:

It's not just scalpers who have fake listings. Anyone who wants to pay as little as possible for tickets should be monitoring actual sale prices. All this info I'm posting about scalping is to help everyone here eventually get tickets as cheaply as possible.

The best way to beat the scalpers? Understand how the system works, and watch how pricing moves.

Even if you assumed every ticket for sale on the field was fake, you are still at less than 10% of the tickets on stubhub.

You may be on to something about "beating" the scalpers though, if the site is flooded with fake offers to the point all sales become suspect, people will stop using it. *** I am NOT advocating interfering with anyone's business model or defrauding any one or any company, just speaking in theory.

It's only been ten days, people. The show is months away and tickets will still be available in the secondary market then. Let's not forget about the good will of our fellow 10c'ers.

dmbolp · February 2013

RE4790 wrote:

dmbolp wrote:

It's not just scalpers who have fake listings. Anyone who wants to pay as little as possible for tickets should be monitoring actual sale prices. All this info I'm posting about scalping is to help everyone here eventually get tickets as cheaply as possible.

The best way to beat the scalpers? Understand how the system works, and watch how pricing moves.

Even if you assumed every ticket for sale on the field was fake, you are still at less than 10% of the tickets on stubhub.

There are fakes in most all sections. GA Field is the riskiest; what if someone buys your ticket? Much safer to have a fake in lousy sections, with a high price.

Eddieshometown · February 2013

You don't even need to post a ticket on Stub hub to see the sold prices. Go through the steps to sell tickets and they will let you see the sold ticket prices by section. You can cancel before you post the tickets for sale That's what I have been doing

dl152203 · February 2013

We have some sharp people on this board. Thanks for all of the input. This will make it easier to be patient and keep monitoring what tickets are selling for. Goo luck all, stay patient.

Get_Right · February 2013

For reference, you can also check completed sales on Ebay. People are paying big bucks for this show. Crazy.

-Buru- · February 2013

From the sold tickets information posted in this thread...
Someone actually paid close to $2000 for a GA ticket.
Mind-boggling.

Thanks for info on how to track the prices/tickets sold.

dimitrispearljam · February 2013

-Buru- wrote:

From the sold tickets information posted in this thread...
Someone actually paid close to $2000 for a GA ticket.
Mind-boggling.

Thanks for info on how to track the prices/tickets sold.

...will be a fun day at 16th july for him..

RE4790 · February 2013

dmbolp wrote:

RE4790 wrote:

dmbolp wrote:

It's not just scalpers who have fake listings. Anyone who wants to pay as little as possible for tickets should be monitoring actual sale prices. All this info I'm posting about scalping is to help everyone here eventually get tickets as cheaply as possible.

The best way to beat the scalpers? Understand how the system works, and watch how pricing moves.

Even if you assumed every ticket for sale on the field was fake, you are still at less than 10% of the tickets on stubhub.

There are fakes in most all sections. GA Field is the riskiest; what if someone buys your ticket? Much safer to have a fake in lousy sections, with a high price.

Rather than have a bunch of 10c'ers post fake sales (I assume this is a violation of the TOS that stubhub makes you agree to, and thus you are committing fraud), could someone just start posting the information using Eddieshometown's trick in this thread or another like it?

dmbolp · February 2013

RE4790 wrote:

Rather than have a bunch of 10c'ers post fake sales (I assume this is a violation of the TOS that stubhub makes you agree to, and thus you are committing fraud), could someone just start posting the information using Eddieshometown's trick in this thread or another like it?

No violation, Stubhub fully supports speculators by allowing them to say they don't have any tickets now but will have tickets months from now. Stubhub makes twice the revenue when a speculator sells a ticket, then buys a cheaper one already listed on Stubhub...same ticket gets sold multiple times on Stubhub.

Eddieshometown's method is good for doing a one time check on a single section, but becomes very cumbersome when you want to check many/all sections on multiple days.

RE4790 · February 2013

dmbolp wrote:

RE4790 wrote:

Rather than have a bunch of 10c'ers post fake sales (I assume this is a violation of the TOS that stubhub makes you agree to, and thus you are committing fraud), could someone just start posting the information using Eddieshometown's trick in this thread or another like it?

No violation, Stubhub fully supports speculators by allowing them to say they don't have any tickets now but will have tickets months from now. Stubhub makes twice the revenue when a speculator sells a ticket, then buys a cheaper one already listed on Stubhub...same ticket gets sold multiple times on Stubhub.

Eddieshometown's method is good for doing a one time check on a single section, but becomes very cumbersome when you want to check many/all sections on multiple days.

Still not sure about this:

4.7 Misrepresentation of Tickets or Related Passes. You must accurately answer all questions asked during the listing for sale process, including whether the tickets or related passes are In Hand, and, if not In Hand, the Expected Delivery Date. You must not withhold any relevant information, whether or not we request it. Inaccurate presentation of the possession status of a ticket or pass, seat locations, quantity, quality, or other information is not allowed.

4.8 Speculative Tickets. We do not allow the listing or selling of speculative tickets or 'spec tickets'( tickets or related passes that the Seller does not yet actually own).

I'm not trying to be a dick or call anyone out, I just don't want a 10c'er desperate to go to the show to get in trouble.

81 · February 2013

RE4790 wrote:

dmbolp wrote:

RE4790 wrote:

Rather than have a bunch of 10c'ers post fake sales (I assume this is a violation of the TOS that stubhub makes you agree to, and thus you are committing fraud), could someone just start posting the information using Eddieshometown's trick in this thread or another like it?

No violation, Stubhub fully supports speculators by allowing them to say they don't have any tickets now but will have tickets months from now. Stubhub makes twice the revenue when a speculator sells a ticket, then buys a cheaper one already listed on Stubhub...same ticket gets sold multiple times on Stubhub.

Eddieshometown's method is good for doing a one time check on a single section, but becomes very cumbersome when you want to check many/all sections on multiple days.

Still not sure about this:

4.7 Misrepresentation of Tickets or Related Passes. You must accurately answer all questions asked during the listing for sale process, including whether the tickets or related passes are In Hand, and, if not In Hand, the Expected Delivery Date. You must not withhold any relevant information, whether or not we request it. Inaccurate presentation of the possession status of a ticket or pass, seat locations, quantity, quality, or other information is not allowed.

4.8 Speculative Tickets. We do not allow the listing or selling of speculative tickets or 'spec tickets'( tickets or related passes that the Seller does not yet actually own).

I'm not trying to be a dick or call anyone out, I just don't want a 10c'er desperate to go to the show to get in trouble.

RE4790 · February 2013

81 wrote:

It's not that funny. What if some significant other / parent / family member with good intentions buys one of these fake offers as a gift for a fan who lost the lotto and got shut out during the public sale? That would be kinda f**ked up.

Kat · February 2013

We don't support tickets over face value here...no links or sending people there please. Thanks.

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