Time for PJ do something totally different this coming album

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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,747
    Oceans 98 wrote:
    I'm all about them doing something new. I would love to see them do a progressive rock/concept album. Some of my favorite PJ tunes lean in the direction of a progressive sound, IE Present Tense, In My Tree, NAIS, Black... I just named four songs in my top ten, just imagine a whole album like this. With the Progressive sounding "Of the Earth" and doing so much Pink Floyd stuff lately, maybe they are trying to get some inspiration for that type of album which in my opinion would be awesome, just my thoughts.
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  • DiRtyFranK38
    DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    Oceans 98 wrote:
    I'm all about them doing something new. I would love to see them do a progressive rock/concept album. Some of my favorite PJ tunes lean in the direction of a progressive sound, IE Present Tense, In My Tree, NAIS, Black... I just named four songs in my top ten, just imagine a whole album like this. With the Progressive sounding "Of the Earth" and doing so much Pink Floyd stuff lately, maybe they are trying to get some inspiration for that type of album which in my opinion would be awesome, just my thoughts.

    totally with you here... and now that you mention it, i totally forgot about 'of the earth'. if a studio version arises and is as long as the live one it can certainly point in this great new direction.
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  • Matlock
    Matlock Posts: 24
    Just thought about starting some "put "of the earth" on the new album"-thread, but it seems to fit in here quite good too...

    After finally getting my new PJ20 from the customs office, I found myself mezmerized by this performance. I´d seen it two or three times on youtube before, but didn´t pay too much attention on it :oops: But now? The more often I hear (and see) it, the greater it gets!

    So I totally quote all those who have mentioned before that it would be an epic thing to get a whole new album like that!!

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  • drummerboy_73
    drummerboy_73 Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,011
    veddertown wrote:
    PJ need an epic sprawling monster of a song that can be a live showpiece for all the band members. Something they've never attempted. I'm not saying something of 2112 or Supper's Ready proportions but at least breaking the 10 - 15 zone. They've proven for years that they can take songs past the 10 minute mark on stage so surely they'd be comfortable with it. I think PJ are the only true classic rock band of their type who don't have their own Stairway To Heaven. Of The Earth is a step in the right direction but it was written almost 7 years ago. They could do something truly amazing if they were bold enough and spent some real time locked in the studio.

    +1

    I've been feeling for a while that PJ needs their "Achilles Last Stand" or "In My Time of Dying".
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  • dimitrispearljam
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    btw,thanks to OP ...great thread for conversation and read
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  • JB128716
    JB128716 Posts: 2,064
    I say as long as they write and play what's in their hearts, I'm ok with it. In my opinion, each album sounds like what's in the band's heart at the time. From the angry youth, to trying to escape a small town, to the rebellious nature, to paying tribute to punk ideology.

    After seeing Eddie on his solo tour, he seems to be in a happy place in life. I also think we will see more contributions from the rest of the band which will make this album a melting pot of where everyone is in life.
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  • CanNotStay
    CanNotStay Posts: 137
    Really looking forward to the next album. Hoping they go a little more abstract. Would love to see an instrumental, the ones eddie played during his radio show were awesome. Really would love to see them change the template too. Instead of opening up with a few quick rockers have the album open with a real long song in the line of Of the Earth. Set the pace differently and sprinkle some surprises within.
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  • crazygeo
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Why do people think the band was "to good" to write backspacer? It's a great cd with songs that will be considered classics along side alive, daughter, betterman etc...
  • JB128716
    JB128716 Posts: 2,064
    Unthought Known is one of my favorite PJ songs
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    JB128716 wrote:
    Unthought Known is one of my favorite PJ songs

    +1
  • veddertown
    veddertown Scotland Posts: 5,260
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    Why do people think the band was "to good" to write backspacer? It's a great cd with songs that will be considered classics along side alive, daughter, betterman etc...

    It's amazing how people can have such different opinions. Unthought Known, Supersonic, Amongst The Waves, Got Some and The Fixer are without a doubt in my top 10 worst PJ songs list. Just my opinion but I felt Backspacer was pretty rushed in the end, probably because of side project commitments. The only songs for me which can hold a candle to the classics are Speed Of Sound and The End. I don't think many would accept another album of Backspacer standard songs. I'm glad people like the album but I've never warmed to it. It's probably due another listen.
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  • DiRtyFranK38
    DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    Last-12-Exit wrote:
    JB128716 wrote:
    Unthought Known is one of my favorite PJ songs

    +1

    I have to say, same here. As I said in my OP, Backspacer is still a great record. It's fucking Pearl Jam after all. In my mind though, overall, it is their safest album, making it my least favorite. That's all. I just want to really see them branch out for this next one like we've all been talking about.

    I love the double album idea, concept album idea, long song opening idea... Achilles Last Stand and In My Time Of Dying comparisons are great... That would be amazing. I can definitely get into a 'Physical Graffiti' a la Pearl Jam.

    Most of all though, I have to say I want to hear loads of different instruments and strange musical blends and transitions. A lot of Radiohead lately has done this to me. PJ is still my fav band easily over them... Which makes me unable to help thinking of them taking sort of Radiohead's approach and making something totally different and crazy. It would be amazing.
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    The last thing I'd want to hear is pj being influenced any by radiohead! Lol. Keep making rock and fucking roll and I won't ever complain!
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  • DP13
    DP13 Posts: 282
    Agree 100%

    This band pushed the envelope and alienated the masses when it was on the top of the world. Now the past decade or so where they have only percentage points of the following they had in 1994, they seem to be content with churning out "Dad Rock". Don't get me wrong, I like a good Who song as much as anyone, but I am just surprised it is the route the band has taken. It doesn't make a ton of sense. The fan base that is left will be here as long as the band wants to exist. Not sure why they are concerned with not rocking the boat and attempting radio success has come now that now, when the Itunes generation couldn't care less.

    The best stuff Ed/PJ have done since Binaural is Into the Wild and Man of the Hour. I feel the book/movie concepts focused Ed, and brought the best out of him. Maybe a concept album would do the same for PJ.

    The little interviews and comments we have gotten from the band seem recently to suggest they might be leaning this way. Excited to hear/see what might come of their next effort.
  • The Akkus
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    Pearl Jam should invite Jack Irons back to the band. Let Jack drum on half the songs, Matt drum on the other half. Would allow Matt enough energy for an SG/PJ tour. A No Code/Yield/Binaural hybrid album would be epic :D

    In all actuality, I am just craving something epic like a new Nothingman :)
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    The Akkus wrote:
    Pearl Jam should invite Jack Irons back to the band. Let Jack drum on half the songs, Matt drum on the other half. Would allow Matt enough energy for an SG/PJ tour. A No Code/Yield/Binaural hybrid album would be epic :D

    In all actuality, I am just craving something epic like a new Nothingman :)


    How fucking great would that be? I would Love to hear jack pounding those drums again with pj.
  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,934
    I personally don't want to see any radical changes to their sound. I love the PJ we have now (and you can guarantee the "What the hell are PJ doing?" threads on here would far outweigh the supportive ones!) but it would be cool if the band started writing longer songs, even cooler if it was in the Neil Young & Crazy Horse mould!

    Get Stone to write some killer riffs and just let Mike loose! No need for any Radioshite influence or any weird instruments, just jam out! As veddertown said, they have stretched songs out on stage before so we know they can handle it. It would need to be a bit more structured than Of The Earth though...
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  • The Akkus
    The Akkus Posts: 1,095
    goldrush wrote:
    I personally don't want to see any radical changes to their sound. I love the PJ we have now (and you can guarantee the "What the hell are PJ doing?" threads on here would far outweigh the supportive ones!) but it would be cool if the band started writing longer songs, even cooler if it was in the Neil Young & Crazy Horse mould!

    Get Stone to write some killer riffs and just let Mike loose! No need for any Radioshite influence or any weird instruments, just jam out! As veddertown said, they have stretched songs out on stage before so we know they can handle it. It would need to be a bit more structured than Of The Earth though...

    I agree... Maybe another Uncle Neal pep talk, Merkinball intervention.
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  • DiRtyFranK38
    DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    goldrush wrote:
    I personally don't want to see any radical changes to their sound. I love the PJ we have now (and you can guarantee the "What the hell are PJ doing?" threads on here would far outweigh the supportive ones!) but it would be cool if the band started writing longer songs, even cooler if it was in the Neil Young & Crazy Horse mould!

    Get Stone to write some killer riffs and just let Mike loose! No need for any Radioshite influence or any weird instruments, just jam out! As veddertown said, they have stretched songs out on stage before so we know they can handle it. It would need to be a bit more structured than Of The Earth though...

    I see what you are saying in many ways. Certain things just aren't pj. I need to stop mentioning Radiohead, because I clearly wasn't explaining it right. I certainly don't want pj to make music that sounds even remotely like Radiohead, that's not them. I just meant that they are a good example of a band that experiments in whatever way fits them, each album... Something pj did much more in the Vitalogy - Riot Act stretch.

    I'd really like to see them do something in the vein of Physical Graffiti or Houses of the Holy... Experimental, but in ways that make sense for them. Some long tunes, some short ones, some weird ones, some rockin ones, etc...
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