Time for PJ do something totally different this coming album

DiRtyFranK38
DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
edited January 2013 in The Porch
It's time for them to step out of their comfort zone. Not even asking for No Code part 2... Let's see some sign of the times experimentation... Something that is a leap for them, whether it be a conceptual thing, using different crazy instruments or incorporating some electronic shit like Radiohead, writing longer songs, or just making very edgy music in a new direction.

We all know they are 100% capable of all of the above. I love every single PJ album, but it is time for this. Backspacer, while a great record, is pretty easily their weakest for me (In PJ terms though). That was a very comfortable, safe, easy album for them. Short punk rockers and some beautiful cleaned up ballads. PJ could write songs like that blind folded.

I REALLY want to see something totally left field from PJ that shocks everyone and lands on those best albums of the decade lists. I'm thinking along the lines of like Radiohead, Arcade Fire, maybe Wilco, or even Tool... Just modern bands, relevant today who have their own experimental edge with each album... PJ did for a while... and it is time to step back up to the plate in 2013 with another new side.
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  • Wilds
    Wilds Posts: 4,329
    Love this idea.
  • drummerboy_73
    drummerboy_73 Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,011
    Agree 98.62%

    (Leave the electronic shit to Radiohead ;) )
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  • DiRtyFranK38
    DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    drummerboy_73 wrote:
    Agree 98.62%

    (Leave the electronic shit to Radiohead ;) )

    :lol: maybe, maybe. just trying to think outside of the box here... Mark Lanegan managed to pull it off on his latest album, Blues Funeral, amazingly... and I never would have pictured that
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    2009: London (O2), Philly 1, 2, 3, & 4
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    2011: Ed Solo Hartford
    2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
    2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
  • Soulfire42
    Soulfire42 Posts: 404
    Backspacer is easily PJ's most disappointing album for me, so I'd be happy to see them do something in an opposite direction. I also hope that Brendan O'Brien quits acting as the new member of the band if he's around for the next album.
  • deserteddotse
    deserteddotse Posts: 1,276
    I say leave all the songwriting to Stone and we will have another classic PJ album...
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  • DiRtyFranK38
    DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    deserteddotse wrote:
    I say leave all the songwriting to Stone and we will have another classic PJ album...

    I certainly would love to see more monster riffs from stone... and even some of his acoustic slow tracks. Ed's are great, but Stone's acoustic tunes, like All Or None are a different level.
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    2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
    2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 31,090
    Bring back the Jam (literally and metaphorically) and let them feel free in their own skin again. Great things are on their/our way.
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  • Kurt Brutus Bacon
    Kurt Brutus Bacon Posts: 81
    edited January 2017
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  • Jammalambo
    Jammalambo Posts: 1,321
    Question is: are PJ fans ready to see the band take a different approach with their music? I onestly don't think so.. Binaural and Riot Act (two of my favorites) contain many tracks that musically are very different from the rest of their catalog (even if the music is still guitar based and no electronica is involved).. at the same time, while some of us love these two albums, the majority of the fans always talk shit about them.. to name a few, how many times you see here negative opinions about songs like You Are, Cropduster, Help Help, Sleight Of Hand, Nothing as it Seems, etc.. I never will understand how someone can say that excellent pieces of music like NAIS and Cropduster are "show stopper" and shit like that.. the average fan of PJ deserve songs like The Fixer and Olé, and doesn't care too much about "innovation" and "experimentation"..
    I'm sorry, but that's what I think.. and maybe that's what the band thinks too.. this would explain some decent but pretty average albums like Self Titled and Backspacer.. Hope I'm wrong though, and that the next album will be a pleasant surprise, full of "show stoppers" 8-)
  • deserteddotse
    deserteddotse Posts: 1,276
    Kurt Brutus Bacon wrote:
    Saw Radiohead at Wuhlheide Berlin a couple of moths ago. Long electronica parts that could of been written by any electronica "band". Me and about a thousand others left after their main set. Never seen an audience that quiet during a show. The band themselves seems to enjoy listening to it though. But it would be horrible if PJ went down that road.

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  • deserteddotse
    deserteddotse Posts: 1,276
    DiRtyFranK38 wrote:
    deserteddotse wrote:
    I say leave all the songwriting to Stone and we will have another classic PJ album...

    I certainly would love to see more monster riffs from stone... and even some of his acoustic slow tracks. Ed's are great, but Stone's acoustic tunes, like All Or None are a different level.

    :thumbup:
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  • veddertown
    veddertown Scotland Posts: 5,260
    PJ need an epic sprawling monster of a song that can be a live showpiece for all the band members. Something they've never attempted. I'm not saying something of 2112 or Supper's Ready proportions but at least breaking the 10 - 15 zone. They've proven for years that they can take songs past the 10 minute mark on stage so surely they'd be comfortable with it. I think PJ are the only true classic rock band of their type who don't have their own Stairway To Heaven. Of The Earth is a step in the right direction but it was written almost 7 years ago. They could do something truly amazing if they were bold enough and spent some real time locked in the studio.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Each album spoke to what I had been living. I found that amazing. I love Backspacer
    and will love the new album. I have no PJ disappointments. In my life I don't think
    I can say that about anything else.

    I love the idea of more instruments. The strings they've used, awesome.
    I would like harp, flute, more upright bass 8-), horns, and traditional piano,
    some brushes solos too for the drums. Music is an incredible gift to give.
    Can't wait to receive theirs :D
  • deserteddotse
    deserteddotse Posts: 1,276
    pandora wrote:
    I would like harp, flute, more upright bass 8-), horns, and traditional piano,
    some brushes solos too for the drums.

    Please no...
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,471
    Careful what you wish for! :lol:
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  • TheGossman
    TheGossman Posts: 1,120
    I would really love to see this as well. I really liked Avacado but I just feel like it lacked anything new or experimental, something we all look forward to with a new PJ record. Backspacer in my opinion was their lamest effort. I'm really hoping this album is very very different and just throws everybody off.
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  • gfnk001
    gfnk001 Posts: 652
    They should do something like Pink Floyd did with Ummagumma. A studio album and then a second album where each member creates music pieces. It's one of my favorite PF albums, albeit the second disc is quite disturbing, but really edgy.
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,747
    lets see how this new album will go...
    as for me i really want the "slow" songs of the album to be Binaural style and not Backspacer style..
    the fast song gonna rock live....
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  • YLed2
    YLed2 Posts: 5,534
    All on board with this thread. I've always had problems with Backspacer and is definitely the weakest out of their albums. Although I appreciate it, it seems rushed, too simple for the guys, and doesn't really capture their true sound. I'm hoping for soemthing totally different and that blows Backspacer away and something new that puts a period behind the name Pearl Jam. I think all the guys probably feel like they want to experiment a little and create something totally new and different as a band, especially with all of the side projects and creating they've individually done there - I definitely think that will help them with that.

    Jeff said in PJ20 that they always wanted to be a cameleon of a band and sound different on each album, like a Pink Floyd or a Zeppelin - let's see that on this next record! Would love to see Jeff involved more ona few songs to get a sound like NAIS or Sleight Of Hand. I also agree that I would like to see Stone involved much more on the writing and create some songs with that All Or None sound and feel. I would like to see Mike come out of the woodworks and involved on some songs with some monster, shredding solos because he was pretty much nonexistent on Backspacer. And absolutely agree with veddertown in wanting to see an epic rocker that they can play for over 10 minutes live and use in places where they normally play Rearviewmirror and Porch - they also probably would like this as a band when playuing live for something different and a change of pace. Like I said, I think the guys know and want to make something totally different this year, and they're ready to get in the studio and make it happen. They've had their creative minds going with all of their side projects for some time now, and I think it's all ready to be fused together for PJ. I think we're in for a special treat in 2013.
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  • Oceans 98
    Oceans 98 Posts: 232
    I'm all about them doing something new. I would love to see them do a progressive rock/concept album. Some of my favorite PJ tunes lean in the direction of a progressive sound, IE Present Tense, In My Tree, NAIS, Black... I just named four songs in my top ten, just imagine a whole album like this. With the Progressive sounding "Of the Earth" and doing so much Pink Floyd stuff lately, maybe they are trying to get some inspiration for that type of album which in my opinion would be awesome, just my thoughts.
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