Is Willie Nelson A Racist?

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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    DS1119 wrote:

    Certainly not the context of the thread by any stretch of the imagination.



    This is a double standard by the liberal media. One guy gets called a racist for saying "the blacks" and the other gets a pass. Comical but sad.

    I'm not sure what you mean by your first statement.

    But don't you think the person's history is taken into consideration at all? A drugged out hippie saying something stupid? Gee, that's news! :lol: But someone who is deliberately calling out your black president for numerous racially motivated things, already looking in the eyes of the public like a racist, and then says that. You don't think there's a reason why one is raked over the coals and one is not? Come on.
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:

    Certainly not the context of the thread by any stretch of the imagination.



    This is a double standard by the liberal media. One guy gets called a racist for saying "the blacks" and the other gets a pass. Comical but sad.

    I'm not sure what you mean by your first statement.

    But don't you think the person's history is taken into consideration at all? A drugged out hippie saying something stupid? Gee, that's news! :lol: But someone who is deliberately calling out your black president for numerous racially motivated things, already looking in the eyes of the public like a racist, and then says that. You don't think there's a reason why one is raked over the coals and one is not? Come on.


    Nope not at all. Double standard. And anyone who think Trump was going after Oblahblah because he's African American is ridiculous.
  • gabers
    gabers Posts: 2,787
    I'm assuming the OP is trying to get a reaction. Right? Willie's a lot of things, but a racist ain't one of them. He's an old man. He probably just recently stopped calling black folks "colored". :)
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    gabers wrote:
    I'm assuming the OP is trying to get a reaction. Right? Willie's a lot of things, but a racist ain't one of them. He's an old man. He probably just recently stopped calling black folks "colored". :)



    Willie Nelson is 79. Donald Trump 66 years old.
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    gabers wrote:
    I'm assuming the OP is trying to get a reaction. Right?

    yep
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,652
    Seeing Willie Nelson and Family at the Dixon County fair a few years ago was one of my favorite shows EVER! Right up there with Jimi Hendrix at Winterland in 1970 and Pearl Jam in Missoula 9/30/12. His book THE TOA OF WILLIE- a great book!
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,652
    Oh, and Neil Young and Crazy Horse!

    I don't know how accurate this is, but I've read that Willie Nelson, Jimi Hendrix and Neil Young all have this in common: Cherokee in their blood. Imagine if they all had been able to get together and jam. It would have been AWSOME! :mrgreen:
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  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    willie doesnt seem to me to be a democrat or a republican. I very much think he is a left winger, but I doubt he is into electoral politics. I seem to remember didnt he vote for kucinich in 2008?

    And it makes sense. I doubt he liked either Romney or Obama. I think it has more to do with the fact that Obama isnt left wing, than anything else. Obama is a centrist right democrat.

    And Obama isnt pro-legalization of pot. If anything he supports the drug war, and would be for imprisoning more people on phony "caught with 12 joints" charges. Obama isnt out to legalize any drugs. Willie has also been antiwar since the the beginning. Makes sense why he would dislike Obama, as Obama is anything but antiwar. And Willie has been big about alternative fuels and biodeisal. Obama has done little to address this issue. WIllie has been supportive of Native American rights and has called for Peltier to be released from prison. Obama like Clinton and Bush before him, hasnt pardoned Peltier. Finally, even though Obama, if im not mistaken introduced Neil at Farm Aid, Obama has done little to address the families losing their farms, farms being foreclosed on, factory farms causing the closing of smaller family farms.

    Willies an activist. Always has been. Its silly to suggest anyone who has a beef with obama, and the majority of americans have legitimate beefs with him, cant feel the way they feel without being labeled a racist. Its an absurd notion. Obama isnt radical, and thats the problem.
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    brianlux wrote:
    Seeing Willie Nelson and Family at the Dixon County fair a few years ago was one of my favorite shows EVER! Right up there with Jimi Hendrix at Winterland in 1970 and Pearl Jam in Missoula 9/30/12. His book THE TOA OF WILLIE- a great book!

    My dad went to a holiday party a few years back where they had a surprise guest and it turned out to be Willie! My dad didn't know much about him or his music but said it was one of his favorite shows he's ever seen too. :)
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,652
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Seeing Willie Nelson and Family at the Dixon County fair a few years ago was one of my favorite shows EVER! Right up there with Jimi Hendrix at Winterland in 1970 and Pearl Jam in Missoula 9/30/12. His book THE TOA OF WILLIE- a great book!

    My dad went to a holiday party a few years back where they had a surprise guest and it turned out to be Willie! My dad didn't know much about him or his music but said it was one of his favorite shows he's ever seen too. :)

    Fantastic!

    Here's a new one from Snoop and Willie- gotta love this- "Roll me up and smoke me when I die". :mrgreen:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcUmZCEnds0
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    gabers wrote:
    I'm assuming the OP is trying to get a reaction. Right?

    yep


    I guess it's ok for a pot smoking country singer to refer to a certain group of people as "the blacks" but take a possible Republican candidate who refers to the same group as "the blacks" and suddenly he's racist? Makes perfect sense. :lol:
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Comical but sad.
    That's why I'm here on the AMT, to help.

    Like how you helped us with pointing out that Mitt Romney would be elected President? viewtopic.php?f=13&t=198347
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    I don't think that saying "the blacks' " is racist in this context ... Isn't that just exactly the same as black people, possessive plural? As in, "the Blacks' vote. The Hispanics' vote." That is very clearly what Willie meant. Anyway, I think there is plenty of evidence proving that Willie Nelson is not in any way, shape or form a racist. If someone out there is offended by his phrasing, then that is unfortunate, but intent has to be involved in racism. Simple linguistic confusion doesn't create racial hate. Context is important too. The context of the term was very, very different between Willie and fuckin' Donald Trump (who, btw, I think is actually going senile).
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    I don't think that saying "the blacks' " is racist in this context ... Isn't that just exactly the same as black people, possessive plural? As in, "the Blacks' vote. The Hispanics' vote." That is very clearly what Willie meant. Anyway, I think there is plenty of evidence proving that Willie Nelson is not in any way, shape or form a racist. If someone out there is offended by his phrasing, then that is unfortunate, but intent has to be involved in racism. Simple linguistic confusion doesn't create racial hate. Context is important too. The context of the term was very, very different between Willie and fuckin' Donald Trump (who, btw, I think is actually going senile).


    And that's your opinion. But based on the numbers of "the blacks" that Donald Trump employs....well
  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    anyone who claims he's racist is plain ignorant and lazy on the subject and hasnt bothered to do basic research that takes 2 minutes on google.

    Willies politics are clearly left wing, radical, and hippieish. Willie has appeared on stage or sung with ray charles and wynton marsalis. Sang with Norah Jones and wynton on a tribute album for Ray. Duet songs with Ray Charles and Julio Iglesius. Has shared the stage with people like Carlos Santana. Is supportive of indigeounous rights. His most recent album has a collab song with Snoop Dogg. Was in the movie Gone Fishin which costarred Danny Glover and Lynn Whitfield. Half baked with Dave Chappelle. Swing Vote with Paula Patton.

    For someone thats a racist, the guy is friends with a lots of people of color, latino, african american, native american, etc...

    The OP sort of doesnt even deserve a response.
  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    again, willie's disagreement with obama is pretty much my own. obamas a right centrist democrat. a war monger. torturer. believes in militarism, global expansionism and hegemony, and drone attacks. He clearly believes terrorism is a problem that can be won by invading another country. Disagreeing with obama on these issues doesnt make someone a racist.

    Anyone can spend a couple minutes looking up the causes willie has supported the last 40 years. He's way left of center. Clearly much more a radical left winger than a regular democrat. he's supported releasing Peltier for example. And Farm Aid isnt exactly an issue Democrats or Republicans have been on the forefront of.

    Its sad when honest talk about the president and his actions is misinterpreted as racism. Racism exists, and should be stamped out of society. But anyone who thinks this is an example of it is sorely mistaken
  • STAYSEA
    STAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    I didn't vote for OBAMA
    I'm sure Willie didn't.
    I will not defend his choice. but i'm sure RACE has little or no factor in his choice.

    Mine is economics and foreign policy (I'm retarded)
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    musicismylife78 wrote:

    For someone thats a racist, the guy is friends with a lots of people of color, latino, african american, native american, etc...

    The OP sort of doesnt even deserve a response.


    I'm pretty sure the same can be said about Donald Trump. :?

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