Is Willie Nelson A Racist?

DS1119
DS1119 Posts: 33,497
edited January 2013 in A Moving Train
So tonight on the Piers Morgan show Piers asked Willie Nelson how Obama won the re-election? Something similar to that. I recorded the show and I'm waiting until someone posts a video link I can post but roughly Willie said because he secured "the women vote", "the black's vote", and "the Hispanic's vote". :o I seem to remember a lot of heat from the liberal media on Donald Trump when he referred to African Americans as "the blacks". :roll: Let's see if the same plays out here. :corn:
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    There was an "interesting" photo of Doanld Trump here....I will leave the members name who posted it out...but I saw that. :lol:
  • blueandwhite
    blueandwhite Posts: 662
    Maybe we can have this conversation after Willie Nelson demands Obama's birth certificate, passport and his college transcripts or after he tweets that the election was a total sham and it's time for a revolution.
  • JonnyPistachio
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    He was probably high, so he gets a pass :mrgreen:
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  • klusterfuk
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    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    He was probably high, so he gets a pass :mrgreen:
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
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    DS1119 wrote:
    So tonight on the Piers Morgan show Piers asked Willie Nelson how Obama won the re-election? Something similar to that. I recorded the show and I'm waiting until someone posts a video link I can post but roughly Willie said because he secured "the women vote", "the black's vote", and "the Hispanic's vote". :o I seem to remember a lot of heat from the liberal media on Donald Trump when he referred to African Americans as "the blacks". :roll: Let's see if the same plays out here. :corn:

    saying "the black vote" and saying "the blacks" is entirely different. you are on a fishing expedition, sir.
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  • Zoso
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    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    So tonight on the Piers Morgan show Piers asked Willie Nelson how Obama won the re-election? Something similar to that. I recorded the show and I'm waiting until someone posts a video link I can post but roughly Willie said because he secured "the women vote", "the black's vote", and "the Hispanic's vote". :o I seem to remember a lot of heat from the liberal media on Donald Trump when he referred to African Americans as "the blacks". :roll: Let's see if the same plays out here. :corn:

    saying "the black vote" and saying "the blacks" is entirely different. you are on a fishing expedition, sir.

    I didn't see it but yes the black vote isn't a racist statement...
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  • brianlux
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    Willie Nelson: One of my heroes! :D

    http://www.theboot.com/2010/07/07/willi ... ride-kiss/

    Willie Nelson Has Pride in Memorable Kiss

    Willie Nelson has lived through some wild and woolly days in the music business, including a time when many business execs were prejudiced not only against skin color but also against long-haired hippies or anyone who was just plain different. The outlaw legend recalls watching his buddy Charley Pride struggle to get bookings back then, even going to some pretty extreme measures at one point to support his friend when a stubborn club owner balked at letting Charley sing.

    "Charley's been treated unfairly. They didn't want him to sing there," Willie tells Parade magazine. "The owner of the club, who's a real good friend of mine, was a solid redneck, and he didn't want him there. So I kissed Charley on the mouth. I was just trying to ease the tensions a little bit."

    To Willie, that narrow-mindedness was one of Nashville's shortcomings among certain industry folks in those early days. "The executives in music were a little prejudiced and biased about someone's appearance. They never stopped to think that maybe that long-haired hippie out there might have a little talent. There are a lot of people that hate change and want to keep things the way they've always been. Nashville was one of the last places to be lenient toward the hippies and the long hairs. That's one of the things that held it back."

    Willie has long been a champion of human rights, a quality he attributes to lessons learned from a tough but solid childhood growing up picking cotton in Abbott, Texas. "Rednecks, hippies, misfits-we're all the same. Gay or straight? So what? It doesn't matter to me. We have to be concerned about other people, regardless. I don't like seeing anybody treated unfairly. It sticks in my craw. I hold on to the values from my childhood."
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    So tonight on the Piers Morgan show Piers asked Willie Nelson how Obama won the re-election? Something similar to that. I recorded the show and I'm waiting until someone posts a video link I can post but roughly Willie said because he secured "the women vote", "the black's vote", and "the Hispanic's vote". :o I seem to remember a lot of heat from the liberal media on Donald Trump when he referred to African Americans as "the blacks". :roll: Let's see if the same plays out here. :corn:

    saying "the black vote" and saying "the blacks" is entirely different. you are on a fishing expedition, sir.


    Did you see the interview? I just rewatched the part and what I typed I actually misquoted. He didn't say the black vote. He said the women....pause....the blacks.....pause.....the Hispanics? If I can't find the link I'll post it on youtube and put the link here. He said nothing different than what Donald Trump said.
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    blueandwhite wrote:
    Maybe we can have this conversation after Willie Nelson demands Obama's birth certificate, passport and his college transcripts or after he tweets that the election was a total sham and it's time for a revolution.



    Makes sense. :?
  • hedonist
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    klusterfuk wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    He was probably high, so he gets a pass :mrgreen:
    this.
    Amen, plus I think Willie's a good guy :P
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
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    DS1119 wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    So tonight on the Piers Morgan show Piers asked Willie Nelson how Obama won the re-election? Something similar to that. I recorded the show and I'm waiting until someone posts a video link I can post but roughly Willie said because he secured "the women vote", "the black's vote", and "the Hispanic's vote". :o I seem to remember a lot of heat from the liberal media on Donald Trump when he referred to African Americans as "the blacks". :roll: Let's see if the same plays out here. :corn:

    saying "the black vote" and saying "the blacks" is entirely different. you are on a fishing expedition, sir.


    Did you see the interview? I just rewatched the part and what I typed I actually misquoted. He didn't say the black vote. He said the women....pause....the blacks.....pause.....the Hispanics? If I can't find the link I'll post it on youtube and put the link here. He said nothing different than what Donald Trump said.

    no, I didn't, I went by what you said. if he said that, then yes, that's a racist comment. I don't think speaking inappropriately makes one a racist. I don't think Trump is a racist either. Kinda like on Seinfeld when Morty said "I know a couple a Chinamen...", and Elaine cringes and mumbles "Asian Americans".

    But people hate Trump so they're going to jump all over him for that. And people are going to go easier on WN because of who he is, as you've seen here.
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  • pandora
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    I can't see Willie being a racist. His heart seems in the right place from hearing him
    speak many times. I love him. And I would still love him if he were misguided.
  • DS1119
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    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    I don't think speaking inappropriately makes one a racist. I don't think Trump is a racist either.


    I seem to remember you making different comments about Donald Trump being a racist. :think:
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
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    DS1119 wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    I don't think speaking inappropriately makes one a racist. I don't think Trump is a racist either.


    I seem to remember you making different comments about Donald Trump being a racist. :think:

    I don't think so (and if I did, we may have to take a look at it contextually). I think he's an asshole, because of all the shit he's tried to stir up with Obama, but just by simply saying "the blacks" doesn't make one racist. the same as saying something ignorant does not make the person ignorant, only their statement.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
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    here's exactly what I said DS:

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    Post by Hugh Freaking Dillon » Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:23 pm
    do you hear successful, intelligent, black men or women talking about "the whites".

    No, because everyone knows that is also racist. it was understandable in the days of minority oppression, but today? most people know better.

    where did I say Trump was a racist person? all I was speaking to was his dialogue.
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  • brianlux
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/1 ... 28755.html

    Willie Nelson Talks Unlikely Friend Snoop Dogg, 'Heroes' Collaboration

    AUSTIN, Texas -- When Snoop Dogg passed through Willie Nelson's neck of the woods during South By Southwest in March, he took some time to pay tribute to his unlikely friend.

    He regaled reporters with mostly NSFW stories about time the pair spent together in Amsterdam, sharing their mutual love of music, marijuana and fried chicken. The always lighthearted Snoop also got serious when talking about his friendship with Nelson and the 79-year-old singer's unique role as a musical ambassador.

    "When I first met him you would think he was a hip-hop artist because he showed love to me as if I was in his world and I never made country music or none of that, but he understood who I was," Snoop said. "And it drove me to make country music. I made a couple of country records and was a part of his album and went to the Country Music Awards and worked with Brad Paisley, went to Johnny Cash's house. I was getting heavy into it and finding country music is a form of hip-hop music. It's the same thing. We're the same people. Don't let the rhythm fool you. It's the same game."

    The feeling is mutual, which is why Nelson included Snoop on his newest album, "Heroes," a collection of songs sung with Nelson's musical heroes that came out this month. The 40-year-old rapper is the only musician on the album not connected to country music in some way.

    "I just like the guy personally and his music is great," Nelson said. "I'm not a big rapper-type fan, but I know he's great because he's already a legend and he's not that old, and there's a lot of people out there who are huge Snoop fans. He and I have a lot in common because we both smoke a little dope together now and then. Mainly we like to get together and play a little music and hang out any chance we get."

    Others who appear with Nelson on the 14-track album include Ray Price, Merle Haggard, Billy Joe Shaver and Sheryl Crow. Nelson and Snoop Dogg are joined by Kris Kristofferson and Jamey Johnson on "Roll Me Up," one of three songs Nelson wrote or co-wrote. And Nelson and Haggard recast "A Horse Called Music." He also covers songs by Tom Waits, Coldplay and Pearl Jam.

    That list also includes Nelson's son, Lukas, who appears on more than half the songs on the Buddy Cannon-produced album. The two have recorded together before, but never so extensively.

    "It's kind of the first time it happened with us," Lukas Nelson said. "It was cool. It was exciting for me, at least. This was nice to be a part of."
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    I don't think speaking inappropriately makes one a racist. I don't think Trump is a racist either.


    I seem to remember you making different comments about Donald Trump being a racist. :think:

    I don't think so (and if I did, we may have to take a look at it contextually). I think he's an asshole, because of all the shit he's tried to stir up with Obama, but just by simply saying "the blacks" doesn't make one racist. the same as saying something ignorant does not make the person ignorant, only their statement.


    Certainly not the context of the thread by any stretch of the imagination.



    This is a double standard by the liberal media. One guy gets called a racist for saying "the blacks" and the other gets a pass. Comical but sad.
  • usamamasan1
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    Comical but sad.
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Comical but sad.
    That's why I'm here on the AMT, to help.


    :wave:
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    maybe he is a racist but then again maybe he isnt...thank you, good night

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