Another shooting at a school.

brianlux wrote:

It is evil, Chadwick. There is so much evil in the world today- it breaks my heart. My first thought is- it wasn't always this way. I went to elementary school in the 50's. No one heard of this shit then. But on the other hand, we had duck and cover routines- drills where we were told "if you ever see a REALLY bright light go off outside that means an atom bomb has exploded so don't look at it or you'll go blind and get under you desk so you don't get blown to smithereens".

We've got to step back- way back, maybe even 10,000 years- and regain our sense.

yes mr. brianlux we are big time in a jam. modern day is a fucking disaster. everywhere a person looks is violence. god damn video games are what 10 to 1 viloent to not violent? children learn violence from television shows, movies, video games, from their parents, from their friends, from their sibelings, and from everywhere else you can think of.

when a kid is bullied or what have you and constantly told he/she is less than others they break down inside. blah blah blah.

i have no answers because it is to huge to dissect. in many ways we are all to blame when someone near us fails and goes off the deep end.

a man i know committed suicide almost 6 months or so ago. we all (his family & friends) have taken blame for what he chose to do. at some point are these mass shooters like this? i read where this dude's own brother lost contact with him back in 2010. so for whatever reason two brothers lose contact with each other, one decides to say, "fuck you, you're bug nuts i'm done with your ass"

if that is the case... then that brother has a bit of this blame to wear...

chadwick wrote:

brianlux wrote:

It is evil, Chadwick. There is so much evil in the world today- it breaks my heart. My first thought is- it wasn't always this way. I went to elementary school in the 50's. No one heard of this shit then. But on the other hand, we had duck and cover routines- drills where we were told "if you ever see a REALLY bright light go off outside that means an atom bomb has exploded so don't look at it or you'll go blind and get under you desk so you don't get blown to smithereens".

We've got to step back- way back, maybe even 10,000 years- and regain our sense.

yes mr. brianlux we are big time in a jam. modern day is a fucking disaster. everywhere a person looks is violence. god damn video games are what 10 to 1 viloent to not violent? children learn violence from television shows, movies, video games, from their parents, from their friends, from their sibelings, and from everywhere else you can think of.

when a kid is bullied or what have you and constantly told he/she is less than others they break down inside. blah blah blah.

i have no answers because it is to huge to dissect. in many ways we are all to blame when someone near us fails and goes off the deep end.

a man i know committed suicide almost 6 months or so ago. we all (his family & friends) have taken blame for what he chose to do. at some point are these mass shooters like this? i read where this dude's own brother lost contact with him back in 2010. so for whatever reason two brothers lose contact with each other, one decides to say, "fuck you, you're bug nuts i'm done with your ass"

if that is the case... then that brother has a bit of this blame to wear...

Yes, Chadwick, I agree very much with what you said about video games. I know it's not just about that and violent movies and such, but surely that is a part of it. Why do parents buy their kids this kind of shit?

Zoso wrote:

the most annoying statement I have heard today 'I'm a gun owner but I'm not violent".. well either was this guy before yesterday! He didn't have a record either.. These people that do this type of things aren't career criiminals or gang members so that argument doesn't hold water at all because a person with a background check that gets denied a gun because of their record aren't the people that do this...

Adam Lanza could have said the same thing after the movie theatre shooting this year....

So all gun owners are violent people? Is that what you are saying? I am a gun owner and I am outraged by what happened yesterday. The events yesterday are beyond sick...but to point the finger at gun ownership is the easy way out.

brianlux wrote:

Yes, Chadwick, I agree very much with what you said about video games. I know it's not just about that and violent movies and such, but surely that is a part of it. Why do parents buy their kids this kind of shit?

a piece of trash mother I used to work with actually told me a story how she got into an argument with a checkout clerk at Walmart because the clerk wouldn't sell one of those video games to her 15 year old. She yelled at the clerk that he plays these games all the time, and it's her choice to let him.

trash like this needs to be sterilized.

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

dignin wrote:

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Thanks Pandora, for making sense.

We live in globalized society that devalues life on a daily basis.
There is a massive spiritual schism that has developed in this world,
and so long as people are brought up in a Babylon culture that either directly teaches them, or indirectly leads them to conclude that life has no value -- that it is a one time freak occurrence that expires upon physical death with no rhyme or reason -- so long will we have to deal with the hopeless and depraved actions of those morally bereft folks who are themselves victims of said culture.

Spiritless people will engage in spiritless actions.

You couldn't be more wrong. What a pathetic argument.

I'm sorry?
Your statement is pathetically lacking in any substance.
Yet another personal insult - one liner -- hurled by someone with seemingly little understanding or patience to pursue any sort of informed debate.

I'm not even sure what you find so pathetic about this "argument".
Why??? BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO MUCH OF A LAZY ASSHOLE TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF.
You just wanted to pop one off to feel important, i guess.
[KAT YOU BETTER STEP IN SOON, OR ITS ABOUT TO GET REAL FUCKING UGLY]

Sorry, maybe pathetic was a bad choice of words.

The scale and outrage has changed, humans have not. We are animals, sometimes we snap. What has changed is our access to weapons that can kill easier and faster. The simple fact is without access to these weapons the casualties yesterday would have been much lower.

Your argument that just because I am not spiritual that I value life less than you is ridiculous. The way I see it I should probably value it more, this is my one kick at the can, no second chances, no afterlife.

You are ranting, making this about things that is not. Please tone it down.