saw that foto at a friends facebook..

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

I've asked this before, isn't just as much racist if you are black to vote for Obama because he is black? Or in other words I am voting for Obama because Romney is white. To vote for anyone solley based on the color of the skin is idiotic, does it happen? Yes, but it is not just white people doing it.

Probably- in theory- although I don't know- if I were black and came from a background of hundreds of years of repression in this country I might vote for a black guy just because it would represent a major change in viewpoint. Fifty years ago, a black guy would never have stood a chance of becoming president no matter how qualified he or she might have been.

If an American Indian ran for president, as long as their views weren't too radically different than might and they had a chance off winning I might vote for him or her based solely on the fact that this country was founded by First Nations people.

If a member of my favorite band ran for president, that might even sway my vote. I don't think it's necessarily inappropriate for personal preference like these to affect an individual's vote. All that said, I still don't think that is what this guys t-shirt is about. To me it's obvious that this is more about wanting to get the black out of the White House than it is about getting the white back in. It would be interesting to have him interviewed and find out first hand but I don't think there would be any surprising revelations in such an interview.

dimitrispearljam wrote:

and you know what?i think politicians wants that....cos this racism shit not make you think...
and politicians loves to have civilians that dont think...its more easy to fool them

Scarey thought but very possibly true!

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

I've asked this before, isn't just as much racist if you are black to vote for Obama because he is black? Or in other words I am voting for Obama because Romney is white. To vote for anyone solley based on the color of the skin is idiotic, does it happen? Yes, but it is not just white people doing it.

If this were the sole reason that blacks voted for a candidate, Jesse Jackson would have been elected a long time ago.

mickeyrat wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

aerial wrote:

Was voter ID's thrown out because of social class? I heard it was because it was racist.

I heard it was because there may not be equal access to getting the IDs in time...

given the fact that the state generally charges a fee to get said ID , these laws in effect become poll taxes , which were outlawed long ago.

Out of all that stuff regarding voter fraud, point me to the actual prosecutions of it, show me why its needed in the real world. then I may get behind it. Otherwise do this shit in a time and manner that doesnt come so close to any election period. Like begin the process right after an election cycle so there isnt such a rush and push for legal action. Lawsuit related to voter rolls in ohio about having dead people removed. WTF. brought by an out of state organization.

another suit involving early voting in the weekend prior to election day. Kinda pissed about our Sec of State pushing this shit to the SCOTUS. Who's paying for that? Me , thats who.

Yep...repealed by the 24th amendment, thereby recognizing it served as a barrier to some segments of the population being able to have a political voice by voting...just as an important amendment as the 1st or 2nd imo

aerial wrote:

I agree it should not be done so close to an election. It looks bad and can be taken as holding people back. Here in Florida it's the law to have ID on your person. My friend was accused of drinking on the beach but they could not prove it. So they arrested him for not having an ID on him.
So I don't see how it could be a big deal here.

further to the point about the fee associated with getting an ID, I see S Carolina is now offering them free to those that dont have them. Thereby getting around the poll tax arguement. If that kind of thing is done here, then I want a refund for mine.

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

Who Princess wrote:

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

I've asked this before, isn't just as much racist if you are black to vote for Obama because he is black? Or in other words I am voting for Obama because Romney is white. To vote for anyone solley based on the color of the skin is idiotic, does it happen? Yes, but it is not just white people doing it.

If this were the sole reason that blacks voted for a candidate, Jesse Jackson would have been elected a long time ago.

When has JJ made it to the presidential elections? I know he ran but he has never been on the ticket.

He was a perennial candidate in the 80s. No he wasn't on the ticket, my point being that if that were the only reason for voting for a black candidate, he'd have been elected president, or at the least wouldn't have flamed out in the primaries.

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

I see brown pride t-shirts black pride t shirts asian and island pride t shirts and when a white guy wears a white pride t shirt it's offensive,

That's not a "white pride" T-shirt. That's a racist, White-Power, anti-black T-shirt.

There is quite a difference.

If you can't see the difference between pride in your own culture and hating another... there is little hope for you. I hope you DO understand that when we have GLBT Pride day.. that's not us saying that we hate straight people.

exactly...It's wonderful to take pride in your own culture/ethnic background/gender identity/sexual orientation/etc...I certainly do....and doing so does not equate to hating any other culture (etc), thinking your culture (etc) is better or wanting to diminish, devalue, hate or discriminate against another. I'd even argue that hating another's culture (etc) shows little pride in your own and does much more to devalue it.

Zoso wrote:

sad sad man wearing that shirt.. really sad but a lot of people here and around the world are racist.. dimi I wouldn't care who it was on my FB they would be kicked off straight away.

I think the person that posted it on their FB commented that the guy in the pic is a dipshit and was appalled by the picture...not to advocate this point of view.

Godfather. wrote:

I see brown pride t-shirts black pride t shirts asian and island pride t shirts and when a white guy wears a white pride t shirt it's offensive, my advice to you who got all butt hurt over this picture, look around you will find it in all peoples and colors...it's not the end of the world.

Godfather.

You're out to lunch here. This is racism and there is no other way to look at it.