Fighting For GA Is No Different Than Fighting For Yourself

Ana2112 · October 2012

chime wrote:

The Rob videoed us during the Manchester show. Me and my PJ friends near the back of the arena, Enjoying a show together. None of this needing to be up front. THIS is why I LOVE GA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mkBIMwDcxc

This is beautiful.

brianlux · October 2012

My experience with GA is a bit mixed. When I saw Jimi Hendrix in 1968 the whole show was GA. My buddy and I got there early and ran up pretty close to the front but it was like being in pressure cooker. The year before that another friend of mine and I bought tickets to see The Who as soon as the tickets became available and we had second row seats and it was very comfortable. Both shows were both great and memorable. GA has some benefits but for my money I'd rather not hassle with the bother and crush of GA.

Seeing Pearl Jam for the first time happened for me because someone, the OP here, DS, was kind enough to make it happen for me. This was the best show I've ever been to and it happened because of the huge generosity and thoughtfulness of DS and big-time help from rpech'e. This is a marvelous example of selflessness- something well worth considering in the debate here. I'd like to think most of us would look out for each other and make each show work out as best as possible for everyone.

Indifference71 · October 2012

I have a shitty 10c # and I have no interest at all in GA seats. I don't need to line up outside the venue early, sprint in there and then stand there for hours until PJ comes on. No thanks.

supersonicyears · October 2012

I personally think they should do seating according to height. You give your height when you purchase tickets and they seat shortest to tallest. It only makes sense...

81 · October 2012

Indifference71 wrote:

I have a shitty 10c # and I have no interest at all in GA seats. I don't need to line up outside the venue early, sprint in there and then stand there for hours until PJ comes on. No thanks.

obviously, MT isn't representive of say the United Center, but we strolled in mid way thru the mudhoney set and we were smack dab in the middle of the floor. then again, no beer was allowed outside of the restricted area, so i'm sure that helped.

but even for radiohead in st louis at their hockey areana. we showed 20 minutes or so before the opening act and if you were on the floor, you still would have been around the blue line closest to the stage.

PJ_Soul · October 2012

Indifference71 wrote:

I have a shitty 10c # and I have no interest at all in GA seats. I don't need to line up outside the venue early, sprint in there and then stand there for hours until PJ comes on. No thanks.

Seriously. Queuing and dashing is not a requisite for GA. Only a small number of people actually do this to get on the rail. Just getting there for doors (at the earliest) works just fine. This has been my observation at many concerts over the years.

LukinFan · October 2012

DS1119 wrote:

Sorry, I just have to call a spade a spade. Year in and year out it's the same old debate...we want GA seating. Who wants that? The newest memebrs or members with low fan club members that's who. They use excuses like:

"it's more fair for everyone"....really when you have groups of people making lists to hold people's place in line for hours so they can eat, drink, check out the scene, wait in line for a fucking poster or let their buddies cut in with them. 40% of the the first ten rows of reserved seats are randomly distributed. I'd call that pretty fair.

"I'm short and can't see with resereved seats"...really, so a GA show suddenly makes you taller and have the ability to see?

"I want to be with my friends"....we're all friends at a PJ show. If you want to sit with specific people then find tickets together. Other than that hang out with your friends at the pre or post parties.

"Reserved ticket crowds are lame"....hmmm I've been to quite a few shows and they were far from lame. As an observer from the stands at MT the floor was no different there than a reserved show crowd. Sorry, but it wasn't.

What these pushes for GA shows in the US is nothing more than members trying to look out for themselves...and if I were in their shoes I would probably do the same thing...but lets call it what it is. An attempt for YOU to have better seats. That's it. It has nothing to do with crowd energy. It has nothing to do with being with friends. It has nothing to do with your height. It has EVERYTHING to do with what YOU feel will give YOU the best shot to be up close. Just saying how it is.

I agree 100%

Suziemay · October 2012

LukinFan wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Sorry, I just have to call a spade a spade. Year in and year out it's the same old debate...we want GA seating. Who wants that? The newest memebrs or members with low fan club members that's who. They use excuses like:

"it's more fair for everyone"....really when you have groups of people making lists to hold people's place in line for hours so they can eat, drink, check out the scene, wait in line for a fucking poster or let their buddies cut in with them. 40% of the the first ten rows of reserved seats are randomly distributed. I'd call that pretty fair.

"I'm short and can't see with resereved seats"...really, so a GA show suddenly makes you taller and have the ability to see?

"I want to be with my friends"....we're all friends at a PJ show. If you want to sit with specific people then find tickets together. Other than that hang out with your friends at the pre or post parties.

"Reserved ticket crowds are lame"....hmmm I've been to quite a few shows and they were far from lame. As an observer from the stands at MT the floor was no different there than a reserved show crowd. Sorry, but it wasn't.

What these pushes for GA shows in the US is nothing more than members trying to look out for themselves...and if I were in their shoes I would probably do the same thing...but lets call it what it is. An attempt for YOU to have better seats. That's it. It has nothing to do with crowd energy. It has nothing to do with being with friends. It has nothing to do with your height. It has EVERYTHING to do with what YOU feel will give YOU the best shot to be up close. Just saying how it is.

I agree 100%

Uh oh. Roger, I don't think we can be friends anymore.

Released1980 · October 2012

This thread has covertly weeded out the forums Democrats, Republicans, and Independants.... Well played DS, well played

PJ_Soul · October 2012

Released1980 wrote:

This thread has covertly weeded out the forums Democrats, Republicans, and Independants.... Well played DS, well played

Jason P · October 2012

It's much easier to manage multiple beers w/ reserved seating.

Hands down winner.

MayDay10 · October 2012

I agree with the OP. I have no interest in GA. I dont want to show up hours early only to find people f-ing with the system, cutting, holding places in line, showing up after the show starts and muscleing their way to the front, etc.
Typically, I play by the rules and I am passive/friendly, which tends to get me fucked over in situations like this.

PJ_Soul · October 2012

MayDay10 wrote:

I agree with the OP. I have no interest in GA. I dont want to show up hours early only to find people f-ing with the system, cutting, holding places in line, showing up after the show starts and muscleing their way to the front, etc.
Typically, I play by the rules and I am passive/friendly, which tends to get me fucked over in situations like this.

That's fine, but that's really not the main point the OP seems to be making. He didn't just say he isn't interested in GA... he came up with a way to insult those who do like GA. :? That's my beef with the thread. That, and the fact that people keep on asserting that GA = waiting in line for hours and hours, no matter how many people say that's not the case if you don't want it to be.

MayDay10 · October 2012

I guess i disagree only with the first paragraph. Not sure if it has a direct correlation to fan #

SolarWorld · October 2012

PJ_Soul wrote:

That's fine, but that's really not the main point the OP seems to be making. He didn't just say he isn't interested in GA... he came up with a way to insult those who do like GA. :? That's my beef with the thread. That, and the fact that people keep on asserting that GA = waiting in line for hours and hours, no matter how many people say that's not the case if you don't want it to be.

Exactly... Too each there own. Why do you need to start a shit talking thread?

josevolution · October 2012

This is so been there done that topic ughh ....

SolarWorld · October 2012

josevolution wrote:

This is so been there done that topic ughh ....

:thumbup:

josevolution · October 2012

SolarWorld wrote:

josevolution wrote:

This is so been there done that topic ughh ....

:thumbup:

What up G will def get out for some shows next yr or maybe you shoot out here for some east coast love :thumbup:

Ledbetterman10 · October 2012

Why would anybody want GA? That's cool for outdoor festivals but for arenas? It's just not the 90's anymore. No more rallying 'round the family. No more pockets filled with shells. Let me have a space to myself where I can smoke weed or do whatever without having people crashing into me.

gotsome420 · October 2012

This thread is a perfect example of why the band should never allow GA shows in America we're already at each others throats over it (imagine this whole thread fighting for a spot close to the rail)!!!!

Fighting For GA Is No Different Than Fighting For Yourself

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