Look after yourselves ladies

Thoughts_Arrive · September 2012

Such a sad day.
So angry going to work today.
The maggots pics are all over Facebook.
He looks like a steroid using creep.
RIP Jill :(

pandora · September 2012

Who are the mothers of filth like this?
Who raise men that can drug and then rape an unconscious girl?
What father is an example for something so horrifying?
What man can be so unfeeling and selfish?

We teach children right from wrong.
We teach them to feel, to know, to care.
This is everyone's responsibility.

For bastards like this it all comes down to opportunity.
Do not give anyone an opportunity to victimize,
prepare, arm, fight ...
man, woman and child and for God's sake give your life if necessary to save another.

Meg8686 · September 2012

A wise man once said . ... Take care of yourselves & each other xx

dimitrispearljam · September 2012

im so sorry..i wish this will be the last victim.....

as for the OP..same as i told u in the past..glad your favo person is safe and doing great

_ · September 2012

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

Such a sad day.
So angry going to work today.
The maggots pics are all over Facebook.
He looks like a steroid using creep.
RIP Jill :(

So they know who did it, then? Have they caught him?

Thoughts_Arrive · September 2012

_ wrote:

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

Such a sad day.
So angry going to work today.
The maggots pics are all over Facebook.
He looks like a steroid using creep.
RIP Jill :(

So they know who did it, then? Have they caught him?

Yep.
He's in prison now awaiting trial.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victor ... 6483766187

catefrances · September 2012

Loulou wrote:

I really think the OP meant it more like 'be aware'. Women should be able to go out and enjoy themselves and not have to worry but the world can be a shit place. No one asks to be attacked, I don't give a shit what you wear, where you go or how you choose to go home but sometimes things just aren't worth the risk.

as if we arent already??? we dont need to told to look after ourselves or be more aware...

and what risk? walking home shouldnt be classed as a risk. in this case and in many others home is just up the street. and in this and probably a vast majority of other cases its probably a walk shes done so many times before. unfortunately this time adrian bayley was watching. it happened and it is horrendous that it did. but we dont need to be reminded to look after ourselves or be aware.. because of the adrian bayleys we already are. but lets not forget for australians this is an uncommon occurrence. the majority of women in this country are murdered by someone they know or soemone they live with.

comebackgirl · September 2012

catefrances wrote:

Loulou wrote:

I really think the OP meant it more like 'be aware'. Women should be able to go out and enjoy themselves and not have to worry but the world can be a shit place. No one asks to be attacked, I don't give a shit what you wear, where you go or how you choose to go home but sometimes things just aren't worth the risk.

as if we arent already??? we dont need to told to look after ourselves or be more aware...

and what risk? walking home shouldnt be classed as a risk. in this case and in many others home is just up the street. and in this and probably a vast majority of other cases its probably a walk shes done so many times before. unfortunately this time adrian bayley was watching. it happened and it is horrendous that it did. but we dont need to be reminded to look after ourselves or be aware.. because of the adrian bayleys we already are. but lets not forget for australians this is an uncommon occurrence. the majority of women in this country are murdered by someone they know or soemone they live with.

Yep - an as _ mentioned - in the wide majority of cases (estimates range from 66%-85%) the victim knows the perpetrator. The sad thing about the cases I posted - the victims knew their attackers; people they trusted on some level; people they went to school with, knew from the neighborhood. Who exactly are we supposed to be protecting ourselves from? Seems like everyone; and if we trust them, then even more so.

Loulou · September 2012

I don't mean to upset anyone, I don't like to argue. Your right, she should have been safe going home, it shouldn't have happened to her and certainly shouldn't have been wrong for her to think she was capable of doing so. Hell, I know I walked home a thousand times alone from work. I do also believe that more should be done to instill that violence against women is fucked up.
I remember back to when I was younger though and I sometimes thought I was invincible and without going into the details, I truly regret some decisions.
Monsters like that son of a bitch sometimes seek certain opportunities, it's sad and fucked up but it's true and no matter how much education is given, some sick pathetic arsewipes are always going to do it.

catefrances · September 2012

Loulou wrote:

I don't mean to upset anyone, I don't like to argue. Your right, she should have been safe going home, it shouldn't have happened to her and certainly shouldn't have been wrong for her to think she was capable of doing so. Hell, I know I walked home a thousand times alone from work. I do also believe that more should be done to instill that violence against women is fucked up.
I remember back to when I was younger though and I sometimes thought I was invincible and without going into the details, I truly regret some decisions.
Monsters like that son of a bitch sometimes seek certain opportunities, it's sad and fucked up but it's true and no matter how much education is given, some sick pathetic arsewipes are always going to do it.

lets call it discussing, not arguing.

Loulou · September 2012

catefrances wrote:

Loulou wrote:

I don't mean to upset anyone, I don't like to argue. Your right, she should have been safe going home, it shouldn't have happened to her and certainly shouldn't have been wrong for her to think she was capable of doing so. Hell, I know I walked home a thousand times alone from work. I do also believe that more should be done to instill that violence against women is fucked up.
I remember back to when I was younger though and I sometimes thought I was invincible and without going into the details, I truly regret some decisions.
Monsters like that son of a bitch sometimes seek certain opportunities, it's sad and fucked up but it's true and no matter how much education is given, some sick pathetic arsewipes are always going to do it.

lets call it discussing, not arguing.

Agreed,

I can see that it may come across condescending when someone says be aware but all I was really trying to put across was that it came from a positive place from the OP. I guess I remember being a little run amok when I was young and biggest piece of advice for myself back then would have been "knock yourself out but don't think your invincible". But I guess I was a little crazier than normal. :?

(not to say Jill did anything stupid, she didn't ) Yet my advice will stay the same for my daughter.

_ · September 2012

How about instead of - or in addition to - telling women to watch out for themselves &/or telling men to not be monsters, we tell society to do something about the problem - or at least make a greater effort to be understanding - on a more systemic level?

For instance, I don't generally see institutions like the public transportation systems acknowledging women's safety issues. Granted, we don't have too much public transportation here. But the systems we do have are always saying everyone should, say, ride the bus, but never acknowledging that many women don't ride the bus because walking home from the bus stop at night is not safe. Or, cops come and bust up parties & kick everyone out, but don't stop to think about how that often puts people in unsafe situations. Or, the main roads downtown are blocked on the weekends, supposedly to deter traffic, but that means when I'm meeting people downtown I have to park blocks away on some less-traveled, less safe side street & walk down dark alleys alone instead of just parking right in front of the venue like I used to before they started blocking the streets.

Those aren't necessarily the best examples. But I'd just like to see society step up as a whole & recognize this as a social problem, not just an individual one, and then take responsibility to all look out for each other in a more organized way. (Of course, I'd like to see us take more social responsibility on a lot of other issues too.)

madtowndave · September 2012

I fully support this. Many years ago I had a girlfriend who went to a party with some friends from work. They told her that she couldn't bring me along. Should have been a tip-off. Roofies and booze later, things were not well. I have never been a controlling person, but I still wish I would have been more assertive about her not going. It didn't feel right to me at the time. Hearing about it later is still one of the most heart wrenching conversations I have ever had!

catefrances · October 2012

this is the kind of disrespectful behaviour my first post was addressing:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6486166776

THE boss of the ARL Commission John Grant is expecting a report from the Bulldogs explaining their atrocious Mad Monday behaviour.

The NRL runners-up are embroiled in fresh controversy, with unnamed players or officials hurling sexist slurs at female TV reporters yesterday.

Grant emphasised the seriousness of the situation at this morning's press conference to name the Kangaroos.

"Based on what I've heard, it's a serious issue and will be treated seriously," Grant said.

He added that the Bulldogs have been asked to issue a report to the Commission on what happened.

As the Bulldogs players held their traditional Mad Monday at Belmore Sports Ground yesterday, the current crop gave the media a reminder of the Dirty Dogs of old.

Through a barely opened window, the partying Bulldogs maintained their anonymity, but not their dignity, as they abused the assembled media.

The ugly comments, which were aired on Channel 9 last night, included:

"THERE are some ladies here to stick their heads in your pants";

"S. .K me off you dumb dog"; and

"I WANNA go and punch you in the face."

Another sour note was a foul-mouthed spray towards the media by the club's gear steward Fred Ciraldo. The players also urinated on Belmore Sports Ground in full view of the assembled media.

It is understood the two incidents are being investigated by club management.

The players' behaviour infuriated Bulldogs chief executive Todd Greenberg, who has been instrumental in turning around the culture of a club that a few years ago had the lowest reputation in the game.

"I spoke with the journalist today and apologised on behalf of the club. That's not how we do business. Will follow up internally!!" he tweeted.

Yesterday's antics were the latest petulance from the Bulldogs players and officials, who closed their dressing rooms to the media after Sunday night's 14-4 loss to Melbourne - a breach of NRL regulations with a heavy fine likely.

Yesterday the players donned cartoon outfits to celebrate the end of their season. Michael Ennis dressed as a Mario Bros, Josh Morris as Barney and a shirtless Sam Kasiano as a Ghostbuster.

Canterbury placed a security guard on the front gate of Belmore Sports Ground.

Several senior players were happy to talk to the media. Club captain Ennis said: "It (the result) is disappointing but part of me is so proud."

The Bulldogs' display was in stark contrast to that of AFL champions the Sydney Swans, who behaved with dignity and courtesy when dealing with the media yesterday.

Loulou · October 2012

Well don't they sound lovely! :?
Looks like some of those guys are lucky they were good at sport and didn't have to get a real job where they had to use their brains. :fp:

pjfan31 · October 2012

I do not condone what they said... Absolutely stupid...

However, what I also do not condone was the measures that the media went to to try and get footage of a closed off Mad Monday... Putting cameras above the fence, putting cameras through holes in the fences.Training a camera on an open window (where naughty boy was smoking).

Mad Monday is where a team gets drunk and let loose. The Bulldogs tried to close it off because there are some not guys who are not the sharpest tool in the shed. And the media where trying to get shots of a private affair.

Now whoever said those things are fuckin stupid. And the Bulldogs have tried so hard (and with great success) to clean up their image... Unfortunately, drunk stupid guys are bound to do stupid things.. Remember SOuths a few years back with Fa'longo and Jason Taylor...

pjfan31 · October 2012

Oh and helicopters

Thoughts_Arrive · October 2012

Wow what a bunch of pigs.

catefrances · October 2012

pjfan31 wrote:

I do not condone what they said... Absolutely stupid...

However, what I also do not condone was the measures that the media went to to try and get footage of a closed off Mad Monday... Putting cameras above the fence, putting cameras through holes in the fences.Training a camera on an open window (where naughty boy was smoking).

Mad Monday is where a team gets drunk and let loose. The Bulldogs tried to close it off because there are some not guys who are not the sharpest tool in the shed. And the media where trying to get shots of a private affair.

Now whoever said those things are fuckin stupid. And the Bulldogs have tried so hard (and with great success) to clean up their image... Unfortunately, drunk stupid guys are bound to do stupid things.. Remember SOuths a few years back with Fa'longo and Jason Taylor...

how is 1 idiot 'jokingly' punching another guy in the gut and being punched backed cause the receiver didnt 'get the joke' comparable to sexist slurs?

please dont think im just ragging on the doggies. this incident was a gift in its timing. i wouldve posted the story regardless of the team involved.

you say you dont condone what was said but then you say it was suppose to be a 'private affair' as if the media was deserving of anything said merely due to its presence. they just lost the grand final.. how private do you think it was ever gonna be?? weeks ago i saw nathan hindmarsh handle the press with aplomb during parra's mad monday celebrations. he had the wherewithall to admit he couldnt really answer press questions cause he had been drinking. but as i said the behaviour of some of the doggies was a gift in its timing...and if it was just biffo between drunken players and/or coaching staff i wouldnt have bothered sharing it.

pjfan31 · October 2012

How is it comparable? easy...

Both were Mad Monday.. Both were drunk... Both did stupid things...

Now where it doesn't compare...

Taylor 'jokingly' punches Fa'longo in the stomach... Fa'longo punches Taylor in the face knocking him to the ground and causing facial lacerations..

Physical violence is much worse...

Every other teams Mad Monday was private... aside from walking into a venue... And Michael Ennis fronted up to the cameras before proceedings started. They don't deserve to have cameras trying to do the sneaky look though holes in the fence, put the camera over the fence, have a helicopter fly over the venue.

Who ever said it, was stupid. But we all know a lot of footballers are stupid... This is why clubs try and make it a private affair... It's the one day a year clubs let the players get shit faced without repercussions... Now if the cameras had not been trying to invade their privacy, then there would have been no dramas... Unlike the Souths one

Look after yourselves ladies

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