PJ20 BLU-RAY & DVD are BAAAACK!!!!!

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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,726
    Parksy wrote:
    So I got clarification from 10C.

    The 'new' packaging of this blu ray release costs $20.00 less than the original... and thus the changed price.

    I'm happy their is an explanation.. I still think it's fucked that a package costs so much.

    I could care less what kind of package it's in. Especially if it will save me $20 - $30.

    But...at least we have an explanation.
    i just saw this..good they explain it..
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,726
    on2legs wrote:

    I'm also glad that 10 Club didn't continue to charge the same amount as the last set. Cause let's face it.... they could have still charged $59 and pocketed the extra money and no one would have been the wiser. Instead they passed on the savings to us and got kicked in the balls by some people here.
    my thoughts exactly...they could easily put the same price as the other edition..
    good they put lower price..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,971
    :? Isn't it just cardboard anyway? $20 less for packaging? I think we all know its all marked up in price anyway just like any movie or video game, but physical production can't cost more than a couple dollars a piece right? Also a dvd can play in a blueray player so I don't think there's much worry about not being able to watch it in a few years...
  • javis el errante
    javis el errante Buenos Aires Posts: 6,147
    I can't believe what we have become, I can't believe we argue about 30 bucks which probably would have ended up in beer and pee the morning after... glad everyone can get to watch all three discs now, at a lower price, yeah I paid 59+shipping for the DVD set, and I least watched all three discs every weekend ever since I got it for almost half a year, which is somethign that has more value than 30 bucks, which in my case would have probably ended up in beer and pee the morning after...
    ... I am not in the business of being liked anymore ...

  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    Zod wrote:
    Do you guys think they used DVD packaging for both the dvd and bluray?

    Think they will include the film in the case & the 2 bonus discs in Mylar sleeves inside the case? I doubt it. Though you never know. I had a few DVD purchases where I did receive the film and the bonus discs were in a paper sleeves.
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,336
    benjs wrote:
    on2legs wrote:
    benjs wrote:
    Santos: Does 'same video content' mean that it's the same sub-par transfer to Blu-Ray that it was last time around?

    Seriously? Why the need to be rude?
    I'm sorry, on2legs, but the silence from all parties involved with this project is insulting as it is. Pixelation is not a product of circa-1993 analog video, rather the conversion processes involved in getting the source content onto a digital disc, and it is present on numerous portions of the film (especially, as mentioned, in the bonus discs). In addition, this pixelation is also visible on footage that seems to have been shot during the European tour where Imagine in Cornice's material was from. There was no pixelation observable in Imagine in Cornice, but there is in PJ20.

    A large corporation made a forum for its customers, hired administrators to monitor said forum, made a faulty product, and (my guess is) instructed them to remain silent on the customer complaints when they received them. I love this band, I appreciate the fact that the Ten Club has a small number of personnel on board and that it is very much a 'family entity', but these facts should not leave them unaccountable for when things go wrong - especially when their customers are paying upwards of $70 for a three-disc video. Hell, even an apology and note that unfortunately, at this point in production that they are incapable of resolving the issue, would have gone a long way.

    #firstworldproblems
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  • kstedry
    kstedry Posts: 23
    Anyone else not getting an order confirmation email?

    Perhaps it's because it's a pre-order, but it's making me a little nervous...
  • Parksy
    Parksy Posts: 1,865
    javis el errante wrote:
    I can't believe what we have become, I can't believe we argue about 30 bucks which probably would have ended up in beer and pee the morning after... glad everyone can get to watch all three discs now, at a lower price, yeah I paid 59+shipping for the DVD set, and I least watched all three discs every weekend ever since I got it for almost half a year, which is somethign that has more value than 30 bucks, which in my case would have probably ended up in beer and pee the morning after...


    that's you, good sir...

    other folks (myself) did not watch the set every weekend for 6 months.

    I'm happy more folks get to buy this set... I'm not happy I paid $30 extra to 'enjoy' it for a year sooner.

    And let's be honest here folks... HOW DID THEY NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DEMAND WOULD BE??

    STOP! STOP! STOP! making 'limited edition' and 'exclusive' items.

    Everyone is SO HAPPY that 'everyone' gets to enjoy this... they're missing the point that 10C had the opportunity to make 'everyone' happy a year ago.. but for some mysterious reason did not.

    ^ ...THAT folks... is totally fucked.
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    kstedry wrote:
    Anyone else not getting an order confirmation email?

    Perhaps it's because it's a pre-order, but it's making me a little nervous...

    You should of received a "Ten Club LLC Order Received" email. If not check your order history over @ http://pearljam.com/goods/account_history.php . If it's there, you're good to go.
  • Parksy
    Parksy Posts: 1,865
    And just to be clear so I'm not getting ganged up here...

    I would LOVE to see the forum's reaction is they RE-released Benny Hall for $20.00 tomorrow.

    "Due to high demand.... 10C is happy to announce that we are re-releasing Benaroya Hall in a newly limited and numbered #3000-#4000 edition for $20.00 because we decided not to include a couple of stickers to pass those costs on to you."

    Gimme a break.

    And this isn't the first time. White Backspacer comes to mind. How about those folks who shelled out $200+ to get a copy of that because it was 'limited'. Few months later... 10C mysteriously finds more and puts them for sale. These business practices make no sense.

    Make to order. Pre-sale.... do whatever you need to do.

    10C ... if you really cared about making 'all' the fans happy... you would manufacture to meet the demand of 'all' the fans.

    Enough of this limited edition bullshit.
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  • Nami
    Nami Newfoundland Posts: 5,999
    demetrios wrote:
    kstedry wrote:
    Anyone else not getting an order confirmation email?

    Perhaps it's because it's a pre-order, but it's making me a little nervous...

    You should of received a "Ten Club LLC Order Received" email. If not check your order history over @ http://pearljam.com/goods/account_history.php . If it's there, you're good to go.


    Yup got the 10C email right after the order. do a follow up if not
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  • gibbits
    gibbits Posts: 522
    demetrios wrote:
    Zod wrote:
    Do you guys think they used DVD packaging for both the dvd and bluray?

    Think they will include the film in the case & the 2 bonus discs in Mylar sleeves inside the case? I doubt it. Though you never know. I had a few DVD purchases where I did receive the film and the bonus discs were in a paper sleeves.

    I *THINK* he means he wants to know if the blu ray case is "blu ray sized" or if its standard dvd case size (there is a difference). Unfortunately I can't give you an answer!
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    edited September 2012
    damn. That much cheaper and a nicer case? People should pick these up while they can. Someone ripped off the 10club on the original case production and in turn they charged a ridiculous amount for the original deluxe set. Go to Target and look at all of the 6 disc bluray sets for under $50. In much better packaging. Glad 10club got it right this time.

    Regardless, that's really cool of the club to reissue these. They make money and the fans are happy.
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    gibbits wrote:
    demetrios wrote:
    Zod wrote:
    Do you guys think they used DVD packaging for both the dvd and bluray?

    Think they will include the film in the case & the 2 bonus discs in Mylar sleeves inside the case? I doubt it. Though you never know. I had a few DVD purchases where I did receive the film and the bonus discs were in a paper sleeves.

    I *THINK* he means he wants to know if the blu ray case is "blu ray sized" or if its standard dvd case size (there is a difference). Unfortunately I can't give you an answer!

    Ah! If that's the case, would be weird to have the standard black plastic DVD case for it's Blu-ray release where they all pretty much come in clear sweet shades of blue.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,977
    Parksy wrote:
    And just to be clear so I'm not getting ganged up here...

    I would LOVE to see the forum's reaction is they RE-released Benny Hall for $20.00 tomorrow.

    "Due to high demand.... 10C is happy to announce that we are re-releasing Benaroya Hall in a newly limited and numbered #3000-#4000 edition for $20.00 because we decided not to include a couple of stickers to pass those costs on to you."

    Gimme a break.

    And this isn't the first time. White Backspacer comes to mind. How about those folks who shelled out $200+ to get a copy of that because it was 'limited'. Few months later... 10C mysteriously finds more and puts them for sale. These business practices make no sense.

    Make to order. Pre-sale.... do whatever you need to do.

    10C ... if you really cared about making 'all' the fans happy... you would manufacture to meet the demand of 'all' the fans.

    Enough of this limited edition bullshit.
    :lol: Yeah, the limited bullshit is bullshit. Why keep everyone feeling like they missed out, and restrict their enjoyment of the music?? I feel especially strongly about any vinyl. Vinyl should NOT be a rare item EVER. And if they have problems gauging demand, then always do pre-orders so they know how many they will sell right off the bat (with a good long space of time during which people can order - at least a month).
    I sure do with they'd reissue Benny Hall though, if only to bring those fucking RIDICULOUS resale prices down.
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,726
    Parksy wrote:
    javis el errante wrote:
    I can't believe what we have become, I can't believe we argue about 30 bucks which probably would have ended up in beer and pee the morning after... glad everyone can get to watch all three discs now, at a lower price, yeah I paid 59+shipping for the DVD set, and I least watched all three discs every weekend ever since I got it for almost half a year, which is somethign that has more value than 30 bucks, which in my case would have probably ended up in beer and pee the morning after...


    that's you, good sir...

    other folks (myself) did not watch the set every weekend for 6 months.

    I'm happy more folks get to buy this set... I'm not happy I paid $30 extra to 'enjoy' it for a year sooner.

    And let's be honest here folks... HOW DID THEY NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DEMAND WOULD BE??

    STOP! STOP! STOP! making 'limited edition' and 'exclusive' items.

    Everyone is SO HAPPY that 'everyone' gets to enjoy this... they're missing the point that 10C had the opportunity to make 'everyone' happy a year ago.. but for some mysterious reason did not.

    ^ ...THAT folks... is totally fucked.
    you are right about the limited edition..
    is wrong.
    i think preorder is the best way to do it
    sent a mail to members,give lets say a month to preorder,produce as many as the orders..
    and thats it..i hope they can do it and its easy as it sounds..
    x number preorders,x items to sell..end of story..
    and no need to get an sms at 3 am from another member, to tell me that a limited shirt is for sale
    and i sent another sms to another etc..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Pry To
    Pry To Posts: 285
    This is a good move on the part of the Ten Club. Let's be happy that they rectified a mistake and made things right. For those of you who missed out the first time around, grab a copy ASAP. No complaining allowed if you miss out twice! :D
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,336
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    you are right about the limited edition..
    is wrong.
    i think preorder is the best way to do it
    sent a mail to members,give lets say a month to preorder,produce as many as the orders..
    and thats it..i hope they can do it and its easy as it sounds..
    x number preorders,x items to sell..end of story..
    and no need to get an sms at 3 am from another member, to tell me that a limited shirt is for sale
    and i sent another sms to another etc..

    The scenario you suggest can also be considered "limited edition".
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,971
    100 Pacer wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    you are right about the limited edition..
    is wrong.
    i think preorder is the best way to do it
    sent a mail to members,give lets say a month to preorder,produce as many as the orders..
    and thats it..i hope they can do it and its easy as it sounds..
    x number preorders,x items to sell..end of story..
    and no need to get an sms at 3 am from another member, to tell me that a limited shirt is for sale
    and i sent another sms to another etc..

    The scenario you suggest can also be considered "limited edition".

    Yeah, what if a new fan joins the club after the preorder. Sorry, limited edition, only for those who preordered.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,726
    100 Pacer wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    you are right about the limited edition..
    is wrong.
    i think preorder is the best way to do it
    sent a mail to members,give lets say a month to preorder,produce as many as the orders..
    and thats it..i hope they can do it and its easy as it sounds..
    x number preorders,x items to sell..end of story..
    and no need to get an sms at 3 am from another member, to tell me that a limited shirt is for sale
    and i sent another sms to another etc..

    The scenario you suggest can also be considered "limited edition".
    sure..but they will buy the one they want the item,as many they want,not the ones saw it first,had the money at the moment ,was online..etc.
    especially the items has music or video,need to be that way..
    backpack and hoodie ,posters stickers arent that important..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”

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