A Perfect Example of Deflection:
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inmytree wrote:pandora wrote:
she also learned its ok to make fun, ridicule and humiliate...inmytree wrote:
well...this little one may have some hurt feelings...at least she knows that she should be doing her homework...
lesson learned...
next...
lesson 3 ? Hope is better than 2
you act as if you were there....my guess that the award was given in jest...and the child and the class thought is was funny...if this kid doesn't learn to A) take a joke and
do her homework she won't have a very productive future...
I get the sense you're personalizing this...
Only read the article
but yes I have a keen sense for standing in the moment...
this one kind of jumps right at ya though.
I never liked jokes at the expense of others ...
just me I guess
really never liked Don Rickles either ...
someone's jest can be another person's pain.
How about she learns to do her homework the good old fashioned way
with rewards. Reward the right behavior and be sure there are adults supporting
the child not tearing them down, insuring success in a thoughtful way.0 -
pandora wrote:inmytree wrote:
you act as if you were there....my guess that the award was given in jest...and the child and the class thought is was funny...if this kid doesn't learn to A) take a joke and do her homework she won't have a very productive future...
I get the sense you're personalizing this...
Only read the article
but yes I have a keen sense for standing in the moment...
this one kind of jumps right at ya though.
I never liked jokes at the expense of others ...
just me I guess
really never liked Don Rickles either ...
someone's jest can be another person's pain.
How about she learns to do her homework the good old fashioned way
with rewards. Reward the right behavior and be sure there are adults supporting
the child not tearing them down, insuring success in a thoughtful way.
we finally agree on something...don rickles was not funny....
this kid was also enrolled in the afterschool homework program...and still didn't get her work done...something needed done...I don't think it was as humiliating as you make it out to be...and for me, I'd rather this child be taught this lesson now vs. later...life's hard sometimes...this child had to learn one way or another...0 -
People like you are the reason why we have so many lawyers, so much PC, and worst of all entitled pussified kids...pandora wrote:
she also learned its ok to make fun, ridicule and humiliate...inmytree wrote:pandora wrote:Sarcasm is "a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter jibe or taunt",
I feel this teacher did just this with her award.
The receiver of the sarcasm may think differently then the one initiating it.
Embracing all people in a way that helps them understand and feel welcome
is what teaching and conversation is about.
well...this little one may have some hurt feelings...at least she knows that she should be doing her homework...
lesson learned...
next...
lesson 3 ? Hope is better than 2
How is this any different than when a teacher calls on a student to answer a question infront of class, knowing the kid was sleeping or not paying any attention. Thats humiliating also right???0 -
Blockhead wrote:People like you are the reason why we have so many lawyers, so much PC, and worst of all entitled pussified kids...
How is this any different than when a teacher calls on a student to answer a question infront of class, knowing the kid was sleeping or not paying any attention. Thats humiliating also right???
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inlet13 wrote:To me - this woman, and the media that cover this making her a victim, are exactly what are wrong with our society.
I would say that your statement above reflects one element of what's wrong with society. Taking fringe stories and then making generalizations about society as a whole is what's wrong. Parent's have been 'deflecting' for many many years. Parent's have had issues with teachers shaming their kids, you just didn't get to hear about it. It stayed contained to some school staff and some neighbors. If you want your view of 'no one takes responsibility these days' to be confirmed, then I guess you're going to find those examples and then declare them a trend that's sweeping the nation.
The flow of media stories is huge, as everyone is aware. I don't think everyone has learned how to digest these stories into reality vs. outliers.0 -
Do you think that is humiliating?Blockhead wrote:
People like you are the reason why we have so many lawyers, so much PC, and worst of all entitled pussified kids...pandora wrote:she also learned its ok to make fun, ridicule and humiliate...
lesson 3 ? Hope is better than 2
How is this any different than when a teacher calls on a student to answer a question infront of class, knowing the kid was sleeping or not paying any attention. Thats humiliating also right???
I do not and I see an award given a much different shout out.
Pussified kids
that does say a lot about you
I've never hired a lawyer ... ever :shock: and my kids and others I have raised
turned out anything but entitled. Me thinks you are assuming a lot.0 -
Yes, something needed to be done...inmytree wrote:pandora wrote:inmytree wrote:
you act as if you were there....my guess that the award was given in jest...and the child and the class thought is was funny...if this kid doesn't learn to A) take a joke and do her homework she won't have a very productive future...
I get the sense you're personalizing this...
Only read the article
but yes I have a keen sense for standing in the moment...
this one kind of jumps right at ya though.
I never liked jokes at the expense of others ...
just me I guess
really never liked Don Rickles either ...
someone's jest can be another person's pain.
How about she learns to do her homework the good old fashioned way
with rewards. Reward the right behavior and be sure there are adults supporting
the child not tearing them down, insuring success in a thoughtful way.
we finally agree on something...don rickles was not funny....
this kid was also enrolled in the afterschool homework program...and still didn't get her work done...something needed done...I don't think it was as humiliating as you make it out to be...and for me, I'd rather this child be taught this lesson now vs. later...life's hard sometimes...this child had to learn one way or another...
notify the parents.
A phone call, a parent teacher conference, an email from the teacher to the parent.
This was so far off target of what a teacher should do to a child, it's ridiculous to me.
Why do you assume the only way a child will learn to do their work is by humiliation,
ridicule or bullying?
So in the after school homework program no one saw she was not doing her work?
How about when a parent came to pick her up... nothing said?
My kids went to after school program and got a conduct sheet each week so
I new just how they were doing on all levels.
This 20 years ago and here in the south where so many
assume our schools aren't as good.
We had open houses a number of times throughout the year
along with semester parent teacher conferences.
This principal didn't even take responsibility for the teacher, their teacher.
My feeling the communication here sucked between school and parent,
perhaps between parent and child...
and the child is the one suffering.
It is at home that homework is done with the aid of parents, to insure success.
It is here that rewards are given for a job well done and it is at home
that penalties are given if the work is not done. No bullying is needed.0 -
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