Sarcasm is "a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter jibe or taunt",
I feel this teacher did just this with her award.
The receiver of the sarcasm may think differently then the one initiating it.
Embracing all people in a way that helps them understand and feel welcome
is what teaching and conversation is about.
Sarcasm is "a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter jibe or taunt",
I feel this teacher did just this with her award.
The receiver of the sarcasm may think differently then the one initiating it.
Embracing all people in a way that helps them understand and feel welcome
is what teaching and conversation is about.
well...this little one may have some hurt feelings...at least she knows that she should be doing her homework...
Teachers and parents are supposed to be working together, and this parent and teacher doesn't know what the hell the other is doing. Fail on both parts.
You agree then with the example of chastising a child in front of the class?
Wouldn't a call to the parent be the way to go here?
Probably not the best thing to do. But boo-freakin-hoo. Do your homework!!!
DO you know what steps this teacher took prior to that award? Nope, we don't so maybe it was the next logical step, and maybe it wasn't. But let's not victimize the person who caused the whole problem here. That won't teach this kid any lesson other than I do what I want and someone else is to blame.
I will blame the adult when they make a fool out of a child in front of the class
and probably much of the school.
And we wonder why there are bullies about :?
Adults set examples...this teacher set a very poor one... unacceptable.
Call the parent and tell them what is going on...no brainer.
If that doesn't work hold the child back. The child will learn to do the work to get ahead
not because they will be bullied if they don't.
Sarcasm is "a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter jibe or taunt",
I feel this teacher did just this with her award.
The receiver of the sarcasm may think differently then the one initiating it.
Embracing all people in a way that helps them understand and feel welcome
is what teaching and conversation is about.
well...this little one may have some hurt feelings...at least she knows that she should be doing her homework...
lesson learned...
next...
she also learned its ok to make fun, ridicule and humiliate...
lesson 3 ? Hope is better than 2
Sarcasm is "a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter jibe or taunt",
I feel this teacher did just this with her award.
The receiver of the sarcasm may think differently then the one initiating it.
Embracing all people in a way that helps them understand and feel welcome
is what teaching and conversation is about.
well...this little one may have some hurt feelings...at least she knows that she should be doing her homework...
lesson learned...
next...
she also learned its ok to make fun, ridicule and humiliate...
lesson 3 ? Hope is better than 2
you act as if you were there....my guess that the award was given in jest...and the child and the class thought is was funny...if this kid doesn't learn to A) take a joke and do her homework she won't have a very productive future...
This is exactly it. It's not just the parent's failings, it's the child's as well. Clearly, we've learned that the parent doesn't think the child can do any wrong... even if they don't do their homework. Unfortunately, in life, lessons are sometimes taught the hard way. I don't call that process "punishment", I call it education.
Clearly, huh? What were the excuses? What do you know about what goes on in this kids’ home and personal life? How do you know the teacher isn’t full of shit and a good portion of these 'excuses' are legit, or due to the parent?
Yes, clearly. We don't know the excuses because they weren't included. But, I believe that they were most likely pretty extreme in order to get a "catastrophe" award. Further, since you're obviously completely sided against the teacher here - I'll ask you - what were the excuses? How do you know how ridiculous they were? How do you know whether they were so ridiculous they caused laughter from fellow students? How do you know the student didn't getting a kick out of making these excuses and getting attention and not doing her work? How do you know that the teacher didn't contact the Mom several times?
I'm not trying to pick on the student, I'm trying to say we don't know. You're clearly saying that you doubt the teacher and think she's making this up. I'm saying back to you - I don't see why she'd need to do that. Think incentives. Whereas, I do see why a student would make up ridiculous excuses like - an alien came down from the sky and destroyed my desk and that's why I don't have my homework.
I guess you make fun of the kid and get the class to laugh at her. Cause there are no other options for a ‘good’ teacher.
Perhaps the kid was "getting the class to laugh at her on her own" through her excuses? No one's getting the class to laugh at her. It was most likely a truth-filled award. She has ridiculous excuses for why her assignments are MIA. The teacher pointed it out. This "boo-hoo" nonsense is so wasted here.
This is the only point that attempts to justify what the teacher did, instead of just criticizing the parent. Do you really think this is going to turn into a situation where the other kids will push the daughter to excel and do her homework? Doubt it. They’ll either forget about it, or they’ll ostracize her. My guess is there will be a lot of catastrophe jokes made at her expense, for a long time to come. You don’t think there was a better way to handle this? As for your ‘didn’t call her a catastrophe’ comment….semantics. So you win the best new artist grammy….you’re not being called the best new artist, you’re just being given an award for it? Talk about deflection….
I think she'll probably make less crazy rationales for why she didn't do assignments. Otherwise, she probably would have kept doing it. Like I said, her Mom is a perfect example of someone running to the media to CATASTROPHIZE a situation. And no offense, but you seem to be the perfect bait for her. Like Mother, like child.
refusing to do homework - More speculation. How do you know the kid refuses to do homework?
Are you a defense attorney for the student? I wish I had people like you around when I had to tell my parents why I didn't hand in an assignment or got a bad grade.
I know it because the child's teacher says she didn't.
To be clear: I'm not sticking up for this parent, I'm sticking up for the kid
By sticking up for the kid you are sticking up for the parent. And further, the kid needs to learn somehow. Clearly, the parent is not going to teach the child. The teacher is trying, you may not like the method, but if you have a better method than become a teacher.
well...this little one may have some hurt feelings...at least she knows that she should be doing her homework...
lesson learned...
next...
she also learned its ok to make fun, ridicule and humiliate...
lesson 3 ? Hope is better than 2
you act as if you were there....my guess that the award was given in jest...and the child and the class thought is was funny...if this kid doesn't learn to A) take a joke and do her homework she won't have a very productive future...
I get the sense you're personalizing this...
Only read the article
but yes I have a keen sense for standing in the moment...
this one kind of jumps right at ya though.
I never liked jokes at the expense of others ...
just me I guess
really never liked Don Rickles either ...
someone's jest can be another person's pain.
How about she learns to do her homework the good old fashioned way with rewards. Reward the right behavior and be sure there are adults supporting
the child not tearing them down, insuring success in a thoughtful way.
you act as if you were there....my guess that the award was given in jest...and the child and the class thought is was funny...if this kid doesn't learn to A) take a joke and do her homework she won't have a very productive future...
I get the sense you're personalizing this...
Only read the article
but yes I have a keen sense for standing in the moment...
this one kind of jumps right at ya though.
I never liked jokes at the expense of others ...
just me I guess
really never liked Don Rickles either ...
someone's jest can be another person's pain.
How about she learns to do her homework the good old fashioned way with rewards. Reward the right behavior and be sure there are adults supporting
the child not tearing them down, insuring success in a thoughtful way.
we finally agree on something...don rickles was not funny....
this kid was also enrolled in the afterschool homework program...and still didn't get her work done...something needed done...I don't think it was as humiliating as you make it out to be...and for me, I'd rather this child be taught this lesson now vs. later...life's hard sometimes...this child had to learn one way or another...
Sarcasm is "a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter jibe or taunt",
I feel this teacher did just this with her award.
The receiver of the sarcasm may think differently then the one initiating it.
Embracing all people in a way that helps them understand and feel welcome
is what teaching and conversation is about.
well...this little one may have some hurt feelings...at least she knows that she should be doing her homework...
lesson learned...
next...
she also learned its ok to make fun, ridicule and humiliate...
lesson 3 ? Hope is better than 2
People like you are the reason why we have so many lawyers, so much PC, and worst of all entitled pussified kids...
How is this any different than when a teacher calls on a student to answer a question infront of class, knowing the kid was sleeping or not paying any attention. Thats humiliating also right???
People like you are the reason why we have so many lawyers, so much PC, and worst of all entitled pussified kids...
How is this any different than when a teacher calls on a student to answer a question infront of class, knowing the kid was sleeping or not paying any attention. Thats humiliating also right???
To me - this woman, and the media that cover this making her a victim, are exactly what are wrong with our society.
I would say that your statement above reflects one element of what's wrong with society. Taking fringe stories and then making generalizations about society as a whole is what's wrong. Parent's have been 'deflecting' for many many years. Parent's have had issues with teachers shaming their kids, you just didn't get to hear about it. It stayed contained to some school staff and some neighbors. If you want your view of 'no one takes responsibility these days' to be confirmed, then I guess you're going to find those examples and then declare them a trend that's sweeping the nation.
The flow of media stories is huge, as everyone is aware. I don't think everyone has learned how to digest these stories into reality vs. outliers.
she also learned its ok to make fun, ridicule and humiliate...
lesson 3 ? Hope is better than 2
People like you are the reason why we have so many lawyers, so much PC, and worst of all entitled pussified kids...
How is this any different than when a teacher calls on a student to answer a question infront of class, knowing the kid was sleeping or not paying any attention. Thats humiliating also right???
Do you think that is humiliating?
I do not and I see an award given a much different shout out.
Pussified kids that does say a lot about you
I've never hired a lawyer ... ever :shock: and my kids and others I have raised
turned out anything but entitled. Me thinks you are assuming a lot.
you act as if you were there....my guess that the award was given in jest...and the child and the class thought is was funny...if this kid doesn't learn to A) take a joke and do her homework she won't have a very productive future...
I get the sense you're personalizing this...
Only read the article
but yes I have a keen sense for standing in the moment...
this one kind of jumps right at ya though.
I never liked jokes at the expense of others ...
just me I guess
really never liked Don Rickles either ...
someone's jest can be another person's pain.
How about she learns to do her homework the good old fashioned way with rewards. Reward the right behavior and be sure there are adults supporting
the child not tearing them down, insuring success in a thoughtful way.
we finally agree on something...don rickles was not funny....
this kid was also enrolled in the afterschool homework program...and still didn't get her work done...something needed done...I don't think it was as humiliating as you make it out to be...and for me, I'd rather this child be taught this lesson now vs. later...life's hard sometimes...this child had to learn one way or another...
Yes, something needed to be done...
notify the parents.
A phone call, a parent teacher conference, an email from the teacher to the parent.
This was so far off target of what a teacher should do to a child, it's ridiculous to me.
Why do you assume the only way a child will learn to do their work is by humiliation,
ridicule or bullying?
So in the after school homework program no one saw she was not doing her work?
How about when a parent came to pick her up... nothing said?
My kids went to after school program and got a conduct sheet each week so
I new just how they were doing on all levels.
This 20 years ago and here in the south where so many
assume our schools aren't as good.
We had open houses a number of times throughout the year
along with semester parent teacher conferences.
This principal didn't even take responsibility for the teacher, their teacher.
My feeling the communication here sucked between school and parent,
perhaps between parent and child...
and the child is the one suffering.
It is at home that homework is done with the aid of parents, to insure success.
It is here that rewards are given for a job well done and it is at home
that penalties are given if the work is not done. No bullying is needed.
Comments
yes and yes...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I feel this teacher did just this with her award.
The receiver of the sarcasm may think differently then the one initiating it.
Embracing all people in a way that helps them understand and feel welcome
is what teaching and conversation is about.
well...this little one may have some hurt feelings...at least she knows that she should be doing her homework...
lesson learned...
next...
absolutely... if they dont understand it or cant recognise it for what it is. its all in the tone and the delivery.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
and probably much of the school.
And we wonder why there are bullies about :?
Adults set examples...this teacher set a very poor one... unacceptable.
Call the parent and tell them what is going on...no brainer.
If that doesn't work hold the child back. The child will learn to do the work to get ahead
not because they will be bullied if they don't.
lesson 3 ? Hope is better than 2
you act as if you were there....my guess that the award was given in jest...and the child and the class thought is was funny...if this kid doesn't learn to A) take a joke and
I get the sense you're personalizing this...
This is exactly it. It's not just the parent's failings, it's the child's as well. Clearly, we've learned that the parent doesn't think the child can do any wrong... even if they don't do their homework. Unfortunately, in life, lessons are sometimes taught the hard way. I don't call that process "punishment", I call it education.
Yes, clearly. We don't know the excuses because they weren't included. But, I believe that they were most likely pretty extreme in order to get a "catastrophe" award. Further, since you're obviously completely sided against the teacher here - I'll ask you - what were the excuses? How do you know how ridiculous they were? How do you know whether they were so ridiculous they caused laughter from fellow students? How do you know the student didn't getting a kick out of making these excuses and getting attention and not doing her work? How do you know that the teacher didn't contact the Mom several times?
I'm not trying to pick on the student, I'm trying to say we don't know. You're clearly saying that you doubt the teacher and think she's making this up. I'm saying back to you - I don't see why she'd need to do that. Think incentives. Whereas, I do see why a student would make up ridiculous excuses like - an alien came down from the sky and destroyed my desk and that's why I don't have my homework.
Perhaps the kid was "getting the class to laugh at her on her own" through her excuses? No one's getting the class to laugh at her. It was most likely a truth-filled award. She has ridiculous excuses for why her assignments are MIA. The teacher pointed it out. This "boo-hoo" nonsense is so wasted here.
I think she'll probably make less crazy rationales for why she didn't do assignments. Otherwise, she probably would have kept doing it. Like I said, her Mom is a perfect example of someone running to the media to CATASTROPHIZE a situation. And no offense, but you seem to be the perfect bait for her. Like Mother, like child.
The teacher pointed out, in a tongue and cheek manner what the child did.
Are you a defense attorney for the student? I wish I had people like you around when I had to tell my parents why I didn't hand in an assignment or got a bad grade.
I know it because the child's teacher says she didn't.
True, we don't. But, I see no reason whatsoever for the teacher to exaggerate. Think - incentives.
By sticking up for the kid you are sticking up for the parent. And further, the kid needs to learn somehow. Clearly, the parent is not going to teach the child. The teacher is trying, you may not like the method, but if you have a better method than become a teacher.
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Only read the article
but yes I have a keen sense for standing in the moment...
this one kind of jumps right at ya though.
I never liked jokes at the expense of others ...
just me I guess
really never liked Don Rickles either ...
someone's jest can be another person's pain.
How about she learns to do her homework the good old fashioned way
with rewards. Reward the right behavior and be sure there are adults supporting
the child not tearing them down, insuring success in a thoughtful way.
we finally agree on something...don rickles was not funny....
this kid was also enrolled in the afterschool homework program...and still didn't get her work done...something needed done...I don't think it was as humiliating as you make it out to be...and for me, I'd rather this child be taught this lesson now vs. later...life's hard sometimes...this child had to learn one way or another...
How is this any different than when a teacher calls on a student to answer a question infront of class, knowing the kid was sleeping or not paying any attention. Thats humiliating also right???
Good post. This is exactly the truth.
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I would say that your statement above reflects one element of what's wrong with society. Taking fringe stories and then making generalizations about society as a whole is what's wrong. Parent's have been 'deflecting' for many many years. Parent's have had issues with teachers shaming their kids, you just didn't get to hear about it. It stayed contained to some school staff and some neighbors. If you want your view of 'no one takes responsibility these days' to be confirmed, then I guess you're going to find those examples and then declare them a trend that's sweeping the nation.
The flow of media stories is huge, as everyone is aware. I don't think everyone has learned how to digest these stories into reality vs. outliers.
I do not and I see an award given a much different shout out.
Pussified kids
that does say a lot about you
I've never hired a lawyer ... ever :shock: and my kids and others I have raised
turned out anything but entitled. Me thinks you are assuming a lot.
notify the parents.
A phone call, a parent teacher conference, an email from the teacher to the parent.
This was so far off target of what a teacher should do to a child, it's ridiculous to me.
Why do you assume the only way a child will learn to do their work is by humiliation,
ridicule or bullying?
So in the after school homework program no one saw she was not doing her work?
How about when a parent came to pick her up... nothing said?
My kids went to after school program and got a conduct sheet each week so
I new just how they were doing on all levels.
This 20 years ago and here in the south where so many
assume our schools aren't as good.
We had open houses a number of times throughout the year
along with semester parent teacher conferences.
This principal didn't even take responsibility for the teacher, their teacher.
My feeling the communication here sucked between school and parent,
perhaps between parent and child...
and the child is the one suffering.
It is at home that homework is done with the aid of parents, to insure success.
It is here that rewards are given for a job well done and it is at home
that penalties are given if the work is not done. No bullying is needed.
Hail, Hail!!!