Chinese activist Chen Guangcheng

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,029
    Byrnzie wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    and you also cone off as plain silly when you preached about China offering more freedom than north America, lol.

    I didn't say China offered more freedom than North America. I said that people here have more personal freedom than they do in the West. It's clear that you don't understand the difference between personal freedom and political freedom, but that's not my fault.
    Yeah, I do (although think the distinction is not even meaningful anyway). I just think you're completely wrong. There is only one way to be thinkng that, and I know what it must entail. The lack of law and regulation in certain areas does not equal more personal freedom because it detracts from the freedoms of others while at play. Btw, a private citizen being able to speak against the government IS a personal freedom. I actually think what your definition of personal vs political freedom is the murky one.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Yeah, I do (although think the distinction is not even meaningful anyway). I just think you're completely wrong. There is only one way to be thinkng that, and I know what it must entail. The lack of law and regulation in certain areas does not equal more personal freedom because it detracts from the freedoms of others while at play. Btw, a private citizen being able to speak against the government IS a personal freedom. I actually think what your definition of personal vs political freedom is the murky one.

    No, personal freedom isn't defined by what the law and regulations permit - I.e, being allowed to smoke in a public place, or flout traffic laws, e.t.c. It goes beyond that. But I won't bother trying to explain it to you because you clearly regard yourself as an expert on this country which you've never set foot in.

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