Dinner with Obama

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  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    and Obama has done nothing in the way of experience.
  • Tom K
    Tom K Posts: 842
    well he has been PRESIDENT the last four years.. so I think that probably counts as some kind of experience. No?
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    running a business is completely different than running the united states government.

    running a government entails more than a SWOT analysis and making a profit....

    That is 100% accurate
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    hedonist wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    I don't wan't to have dinner with any politician at all no matter who he is ....

    Romney ran a business ok that settles it he will make a great president :fp: :fp: !@#$ off ...
    Agreed - though I think Ron Paul would be entertaining as hell!

    As for running the government, I consider it in some ways tantamount to managing your own family or household. Common sense dictates frugality when necessary, and spending less than you earn. I realize there's more to it than that, but heeding those particular practices seems like sound judgment to me.

    You would think that until you realize you can't force the congress to do something. It's all about persuasion and using it effectively. You can't just go in and say, "Okay this is the way it is going to be because that's how I want it." Your presidential powers are powerful, but only to a point.
  • youngster
    youngster Boston Posts: 6,576
    quimby20 wrote:
    and Obama has done nothing in the way of experience.

    Yeah, and Romney hasn't held a political office since 2006. And that was Governor of the state I live in. Don't get me started on what a wonderful job he did. :roll:
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    I don't wan't to have dinner with any politician at all no matter who he is ....

    Romney ran a business ok that settles it he will make a great president :fp: :fp: !@#$ off ...
    Agreed - though I think Ron Paul would be entertaining as hell!

    As for running the government, I consider it in some ways tantamount to managing your own family or household. Common sense dictates frugality when necessary, and spending less than you earn. I realize there's more to it than that, but heeding those particular practices seems like sound judgment to me.

    You would think that until you realize you can't force the congress to do something. It's all about persuasion and using it effectively. You can't just go in and say, "Okay this is the way it is going to be because that's how I want it." Your presidential powers are powerful, but only to a point.
    True (and as I mentioned, that's not the only facet), but has he actually gone that route? I haven't seen a whole lot of it.
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    hedonist wrote:
    True (and as I mentioned, that's not the only facet), but has he actually gone that route? I haven't seen a whole lot of it.

    No, he really hasn't because the House doesn't want to play with him. Neither side is giving an inch
  • StillHere
    StillHere Posts: 7,795
    I know this may sound naive to some but I truly believe that Obama was clueless about what he was facing once he got into office. I wonder where his advisors were and what they were telling him and his camp before this whole thing fell into place. Did he really believe that he could do all the things that he said he would do? I think (IMHO of course) the he either really did believe it, or that he talked himself into believe his own words.

    In the long run, we all know that partisanism is rampant and stubborn down to the last crumb. No one is giving in..not one tiny iota. Nothing of real worth can be accomplished due to exactly that.

    Congress men and women who are supposed to be acting on our behalf, pledge to be at our behest, and to act in our best interest, are instead acting like a bunch of pre-schoolers squabbling over the extra cookie after lunch. Its ridiculous. And its embarrassing.

    This lack of real action has affected me personally, my family, my bottom line, and I know that it has affected many of you as well. Who are they listening to? And why would they? They have everything they need, and more, much more...and will..forever until the day they die. Its no lie. Its working out for them and their cronies, right? Its not working out so well for me and you.

    And bottom line, I do not, personally, believe, that ANY one person can change a damned thing about what's going on. What is the real point of being POTUS these days? You tell me?
    peace,
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,899
    quimby20 wrote:
    You all missed my point, of course he would say he loves America but I could then look him and theeye and tell he is lying. If you think this bum is doing a good job, your nuts.
    Seems like a pretty ridiculous question to ask. Totally meaningless.
    Not a useful catch phrase to get hung up on. Also, no one would have done any better than Obama. If anyone thanks so they are just deluding themselves. The US is fucked no matter who is in charge because corporations are the ones in charge and that ain't changing any time soon. But the least the voters could do is keep religion out of their politics, because if they let that happen any more (and it will if republicans get back in for any length again), then things will get REALLY fucked!
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  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    quimby20 wrote:
    You all missed my point, of course he would say he loves America but I could then look him and theeye and tell he is lying. If you think this bum is doing a good job, your nuts.
    Seems like a pretty ridiculous question to ask. Totally meaningless.
    Not a useful catch phrase to get hung up on. Also, no one would have done any better than Obama. If anyone thanks so they are just deluding themselves. The US is fucked no matter who is in charge because corporations are the ones in charge and that ain't changing any time soon. But the least the voters could do is keep religion out of their politics, because if they let that happen any more (and it will if republicans get back in for any length again), then things will get REALLY fucked!
    Worse then it is now????. :roll:
  • StillHere
    StillHere Posts: 7,795
    quimby20 wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    quimby20 wrote:
    You all missed my point, of course he would say he loves America but I could then look him and theeye and tell he is lying. If you think this bum is doing a good job, your nuts.
    Seems like a pretty ridiculous question to ask. Totally meaningless.
    Not a useful catch phrase to get hung up on. Also, no one would have done any better than Obama. If anyone thanks so they are just deluding themselves. The US is fucked no matter who is in charge because corporations are the ones in charge and that ain't changing any time soon. But the least the voters could do is keep religion out of their politics, because if they let that happen any more (and it will if republicans get back in for any length again), then things will get REALLY fucked!
    Worse then it is now????. :roll:


    oh yes, worse than it is now, i believe it
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    dispite all the political talk I think it would be a once in a life time opertunity to spend some time with such an historical figure, it would be a time to put politics aside and just talk about life in general.

    Godfather.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    quimby20 wrote:
    You all missed my point, of course he would say he loves America but I could then look him and theeye and tell he is lying. If you think this bum is doing a good job, your nuts.

    the mans a lawyer. he could tell you hes a cross dressing hermophrodite and do it so youd believe him. oh and what makes you think he doesnt love america? is it solely cause you think hes doing a shit job?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,899
    quimby20 wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    quimby20 wrote:
    You all missed my point, of course he would say he loves America but I could then look him and theeye and tell he is lying. If you think this bum is doing a good job, your nuts.
    Seems like a pretty ridiculous question to ask. Totally meaningless.
    Not a useful catch phrase to get hung up on. Also, no one would have done any better than Obama. If anyone thanks so they are just deluding themselves. The US is fucked no matter who is in charge because corporations are the ones in charge and that ain't changing any time soon. But the least the voters could do is keep religion out of their politics, because if they let that happen any more (and it will if republicans get back in for any length again), then things will get REALLY fucked!
    Worse then it is now????. :roll:
    Yup, lots worse.
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  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    I guess will see, no way he gets re elected.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,899
    quimby20 wrote:
    I guess will see, no way he gets re elected.
    Why do you say that? No one likes Romney either.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    so no answers to my questions then?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,899
    catefrances wrote:
    so no answers to my questions then?
    About what would I say to Obama? (was that your question?)... I'd probably ask him how he doesn't have a fucking mental breakdown, having to on one side deal with or hear from so many idiots everyday acting like they know what they're even talking about, and on the other side with a bunch of other idiots whose only goal is to disagree with him. :D
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  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    quimby20 wrote:
    I guess will see, no way he gets re elected.
    Why do you say that? No one likes Romney either.
    Wait until he picks his running mate. Obama's plan to divide and conquer is not going to work. I will put money on it.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    so no answers to my questions then?
    About what would I say to Obama? (was that your question?)... I'd probably ask him how he doesn't have a fucking mental breakdown, having to on one side deal with or hear from so many idiots everyday acting like they know what they're even talking about, and on the other side with a bunch of other idiots whose only goal is to disagree with him. :D

    no not you Soul. my comment was directed at quimby... but i shouldnt really be surprised.
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