Chicago Shooting stats

shadowcast
shadowcast Posts: 2,355
edited May 2012 in A Moving Train
Just to keep everyone updated on the killings that happen in Chicago on a daily basis that the media does not talk about .

1st quarter
up 60 percent in the first three months of 2012

Totals
120 dead & 500 wounded

Latest shootings as of last night
Mother and one year daughter shot while sleeping. 1 year old in the head.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... 8042.story

Woman shot in face while driving
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... 5696.story
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    wow ... i consider to toronto to be a similar sized market ... we had 45 homicides last year ... and our record is like 85 i think ... that's crazy ...
  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    chicago is a cess pool that needs to be shut down.
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  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,355
    81 wrote:
    chicago is a cess pool that needs to be shut down.
    Oh 81, just wear your helmet and you'll be fine.
  • bennett13
    bennett13 Posts: 439
    So all that gun control legislation works for Chicago, right? :roll:
  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    bennett13 wrote:
    So all that gun control legislation works for Chicago, right? :roll:

    absolutly....their are no guns on the streets in chicago. feel free to walk at night with no fear
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,773
    I don't want to hear about this this week. My step-daughter is in Chicago for the week. :(
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    brianlux wrote:
    I don't want to hear about this this week. My step-daughter is in Chicago for the week. :(


    tell her to stay north of congress and as far east as possible.

    a flac jacket is also advisable
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  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    in fairness to chicago, in 2010 they only ranked 18th in murder per capita for cities over 250,000

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... crime_rate
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  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,355
    Last nights shootings 1 dead & 8 wounded.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/1 ... 23289.html
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,959
    polaris_x wrote:
    wow ... i consider to toronto to be a similar sized market ... we had 45 homicides last year ... and our record is like 85 i think ... that's crazy ...

    Yes it is crazy, crazy scary.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,355
    Weekend of 4/13-14-15/12

    6 dead 15 wounded

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/11924275-4 ... tings.html
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    shadowcast ...

    are these numbers problematic?
    if so, what is the problem?
    what is the solution?

    these questions aren't meant to bait ... just wondering why chicago has more homicides than toronto by such a large number despite being similar sized markets ...
  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    edited April 2012
    polaris_x wrote:
    just wondering why chicago has more homicides than toronto by such a large number despite being similar sized markets ...

    you've not been to the southside have you. :lol:

    gangs, drugs, no respect, not a lot of unemployment. it's a shit hole
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  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    polaris_x wrote:
    shadowcast ...

    are these numbers problematic?
    if so, what is the problem?
    what is the solution?

    these questions aren't meant to bait ... just wondering why chicago has more homicides than toronto by such a large number despite being similar sized markets ...


    gang violence. If you can figure out how to crack that nut you will have done mankind a great service. My contention would be eliminate the pricey black market on drugs. Puts more parents back home, gets rid of much of the incentive to operate a street gang. who knows otherwise...there are simply pockets of gang culture that are more violent than others...interesting phenomenon...
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    81 wrote:
    you've not been to the southside have you. :lol:

    gangs, drugs, no respect, not a lot of employment. it's a shit hole

    actually ... i hit a denny's in that area one time on the way back from a road trip ... interesting is probably the most diplomatic word ... :shock:
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    gang violence. If you can figure out how to crack that nut you will have done mankind a great service. My contention would be eliminate the pricey black market on drugs. Puts more parents back home, gets rid of much of the incentive to operate a street gang. who knows otherwise...there are simply pockets of gang culture that are more violent than others...interesting phenomenon...

    i think gang violence is related to social infrastructure ... here in ontario ... we had minimal gang violence up until the conservatives started cutting all the social programs ... consequences were that after school programs for youth were cut ... single parents had to work more hours to make ends meet ...etc ... then we started putting money back into the social safety net and gang violence has subsided again ... although the police won't officially say it to be the case - many officers believe after school programs for youth and better community involvement has made a difference ...
  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,355
    polaris_x wrote:
    shadowcast ...

    are these numbers problematic?
    if so, what is the problem?
    what is the solution?

    these questions aren't meant to bait ... just wondering why chicago has more homicides than toronto by such a large number despite being similar sized markets ...
    Yes, Chicago is in the top 3 or if not the top for gun violence in a major US city. Yet, Chicago has one the most strict guns laws in the country. You cannot even own a hand gun in the city of Chicago.

    There are two sides of the city (South & West sides) that 90% of the violence comes from. These areas have poverty and major gang violence.

    Solutions:
    it all starts at home. 72% of african American homes are fatherless. What comes from fatherless homes?
    * 63 percent of youth suicides are from fatherless homes
    * 90 percent of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes
    * 85 percent of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes
    * 80 percent of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes
    * 71 percent of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes
    * 75 percent of all adolescent patients in chemical-abuse centers come from fatherless homes
    * 85 percent of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes
    Everyone just goes through the motions that it is what it is. Some people will blame education & guns which do play a roll but where are the parents telling the kids that getting an education and not picking up a gun is the smart choice.
    No one likes to talk about it but it's the truth. The churches don't like to talk about it & the news doesn't mention it.

    The reason I started this thread was because of the Trayvon Martin story. The country is so into this story and wanting justice with a case that has many gray areas. People are getting killed daily in this city from babies to grown men but we as a nation just want to create a race story when this barley happens anymore. We could focus our energy on more important issues like early pregnancy, being a parent, educating people and taking responsibility as a community to not turn your cheek to these issues.

    Great Article

    "To put these number in perspective, recall that over 6,400 U.S. service men and women have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan combined over the course of a decade-long war fought in those nations. During the Vietnam War, which lasted nearly 13 years, some 58,000 Americans were killed — nearly 13 percent of whom were African American. Extrapolating black-on-black crime data reveals that, by comparison, approximately 100,000 African Americans have been killed on our own streets at the hands of other African Americans in roughly the same stretches of time. It is difficult to find anyone who would white-wash these mind-numbing statistics."



    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/race-wa ... ack-crime/
  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    18th in murders per capita

    and yes, you can own a handgun in the city now. ;)
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  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,355
    81 wrote:
    18th in murders per capita

    and yes, you can own a handgun in the city now. ;)
    Sorry I stand corrected on owning a hand gun in your home.
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    if the bad guys are armed to the teeth, then the good guys should be able to defend themselves