Chicago Shooting stats

shadowcast

Just to keep everyone updated on the killings that happen in Chicago on a daily basis that the media does not talk about .

1st quarter
up 60 percent in the first three months of 2012

Totals
120 dead & 500 wounded

Latest shootings as of last night
Mother and one year daughter shot while sleeping. 1 year old in the head.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... 8042.story

Woman shot in face while driving
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... 5696.story

polaris_x

wow ... i consider to toronto to be a similar sized market ... we had 45 homicides last year ... and our record is like 85 i think ... that's crazy ...

81

chicago is a cess pool that needs to be shut down.

shadowcast

81 wrote:

chicago is a cess pool that needs to be shut down.

Oh 81, just wear your helmet and you'll be fine.

bennett13

So all that gun control legislation works for Chicago, right? :roll:

81

bennett13 wrote:

So all that gun control legislation works for Chicago, right? :roll:

absolutly....their are no guns on the streets in chicago. feel free to walk at night with no fear

brianlux

I don't want to hear about this this week. My step-daughter is in Chicago for the week. :(

81

brianlux wrote:

I don't want to hear about this this week. My step-daughter is in Chicago for the week. :(

tell her to stay north of congress and as far east as possible.

a flac jacket is also advisable

81

in fairness to chicago, in 2010 they only ranked 18th in murder per capita for cities over 250,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... crime_rate

shadowcast

Last nights shootings 1 dead & 8 wounded.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/1 ... 23289.html

cincybearcat

polaris_x wrote:

wow ... i consider to toronto to be a similar sized market ... we had 45 homicides last year ... and our record is like 85 i think ... that's crazy ...

Yes it is crazy, crazy scary.

shadowcast

Weekend of 4/13-14-15/12

6 dead 15 wounded

http://www.suntimes.com/news/11924275-4 ... tings.html

polaris_x

shadowcast ...

are these numbers problematic?
if so, what is the problem?
what is the solution?

these questions aren't meant to bait ... just wondering why chicago has more homicides than toronto by such a large number despite being similar sized markets ...

81

polaris_x wrote:

just wondering why chicago has more homicides than toronto by such a large number despite being similar sized markets ...

you've not been to the southside have you.

gangs, drugs, no respect, not a lot of unemployment. it's a shit hole

mikepegg44

polaris_x wrote:

shadowcast ...

are these numbers problematic?
if so, what is the problem?
what is the solution?

these questions aren't meant to bait ... just wondering why chicago has more homicides than toronto by such a large number despite being similar sized markets ...

gang violence. If you can figure out how to crack that nut you will have done mankind a great service. My contention would be eliminate the pricey black market on drugs. Puts more parents back home, gets rid of much of the incentive to operate a street gang. who knows otherwise...there are simply pockets of gang culture that are more violent than others...interesting phenomenon...

polaris_x

81 wrote:

you've not been to the southside have you.

gangs, drugs, no respect, not a lot of employment. it's a shit hole

actually ... i hit a denny's in that area one time on the way back from a road trip ... interesting is probably the most diplomatic word ... :shock:

polaris_x

mikepegg44 wrote:

gang violence. If you can figure out how to crack that nut you will have done mankind a great service. My contention would be eliminate the pricey black market on drugs. Puts more parents back home, gets rid of much of the incentive to operate a street gang. who knows otherwise...there are simply pockets of gang culture that are more violent than others...interesting phenomenon...

i think gang violence is related to social infrastructure ... here in ontario ... we had minimal gang violence up until the conservatives started cutting all the social programs ... consequences were that after school programs for youth were cut ... single parents had to work more hours to make ends meet ...etc ... then we started putting money back into the social safety net and gang violence has subsided again ... although the police won't officially say it to be the case - many officers believe after school programs for youth and better community involvement has made a difference ...

shadowcast

polaris_x wrote:

shadowcast ...

are these numbers problematic?
if so, what is the problem?
what is the solution?

these questions aren't meant to bait ... just wondering why chicago has more homicides than toronto by such a large number despite being similar sized markets ...

Yes, Chicago is in the top 3 or if not the top for gun violence in a major US city. Yet, Chicago has one the most strict guns laws in the country. You cannot even own a hand gun in the city of Chicago.

There are two sides of the city (South & West sides) that 90% of the violence comes from. These areas have poverty and major gang violence.

Solutions:
it all starts at home. 72% of african American homes are fatherless. What comes from fatherless homes?
* 63 percent of youth suicides are from fatherless homes
* 90 percent of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes
* 85 percent of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes
* 80 percent of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes
* 71 percent of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes
* 75 percent of all adolescent patients in chemical-abuse centers come from fatherless homes
* 85 percent of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes
Everyone just goes through the motions that it is what it is. Some people will blame education & guns which do play a roll but where are the parents telling the kids that getting an education and not picking up a gun is the smart choice.
No one likes to talk about it but it's the truth. The churches don't like to talk about it & the news doesn't mention it.

The reason I started this thread was because of the Trayvon Martin story. The country is so into this story and wanting justice with a case that has many gray areas. People are getting killed daily in this city from babies to grown men but we as a nation just want to create a race story when this barley happens anymore. We could focus our energy on more important issues like early pregnancy, being a parent, educating people and taking responsibility as a community to not turn your cheek to these issues.

Great Article

"To put these number in perspective, recall that over 6,400 U.S. service men and women have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan combined over the course of a decade-long war fought in those nations. During the Vietnam War, which lasted nearly 13 years, some 58,000 Americans were killed — nearly 13 percent of whom were African American. Extrapolating black-on-black crime data reveals that, by comparison, approximately 100,000 African Americans have been killed on our own streets at the hands of other African Americans in roughly the same stretches of time. It is difficult to find anyone who would white-wash these mind-numbing statistics."



http://www.theblaze.com/stories/race-wa ... ack-crime/

81

18th in murders per capita

and yes, you can own a handgun in the city now.

shadowcast

81 wrote:

18th in murders per capita

and yes, you can own a handgun in the city now.

Sorry I stand corrected on owning a hand gun in your home.

usamamasan1

if the bad guys are armed to the teeth, then the good guys should be able to defend themselves

unsung

81 wrote:

18th in murders per capita

and yes, you can own a handgun in the city now.

Only if you meet their numerous restrictions.

unsung

Where are Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson? All these black youths getting shot and killed, don't they care?

81

no updates?

10 more killed this weekend. :?

shadowcast

Sorry you beat me too it.

43 shot this weekend 10 dead. Rahm is holding a press conference today.

http://www.suntimes.com/12837613-761/10 ... tings.html

pjhawks

and where are the stats on the race and ethnicity of the majority of shooters? or is that somehow racist to print that?

shadowcast

pjhawks wrote:

and where are the stats on the race and ethnicity of the majority of shooters? or is that somehow racist to print that?

I would say that this is black on black crime.

MotoDC

polaris_x wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

gang violence. If you can figure out how to crack that nut you will have done mankind a great service. My contention would be eliminate the pricey black market on drugs. Puts more parents back home, gets rid of much of the incentive to operate a street gang. who knows otherwise...there are simply pockets of gang culture that are more violent than others...interesting phenomenon...

i think gang violence is related to social infrastructure ... here in ontario ... we had minimal gang violence up until the conservatives started cutting all the social programs ... consequences were that after school programs for youth were cut ... single parents had to work more hours to make ends meet ...etc ... then we started putting money back into the social safety net and gang violence has subsided again ... although the police won't officially say it to be the case - many officers believe after school programs for youth and better community involvement has made a difference ...

I'd agree that's part of the solution -- at least insofar as keeping kids occupied (sports, music, etc) after school is a great way to lessen the draw of gangs. But aren't we treating the symptoms rather than the cause with this approach? shadowcast posted some pretty compelling statistics above about fatherless homes.

81

i expect a hot summer.....and a shit ton of shootings...

clearly hot summer days should be banned. :fp:

Godfather.

bennett13 wrote:

So all that gun control legislation works for Chicago, right? :roll:

depends on who you ask, if you ask the bad guys (with guns) they will tell you it's working great because they love an unarmed victim but on the other hand if you ask the unarmed victim you might gat a different answer.

Godfather.

unsung

polaris_x wrote:

i think gang violence is related to social infrastructure ... here in ontario ... we had minimal gang violence up until the conservatives started cutting all the social programs ... consequences were that after school programs for youth were cut ... single parents had to work more hours to make ends meet ...etc ... then we started putting money back into the social safety net and gang violence has subsided again ... although the police won't officially say it to be the case - many officers believe after school programs for youth and better community involvement has made a difference ...

Ah, blame the taxpayer, it's their fault because they don't want to fund behavior programs to keep people from being animals.