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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    81 wrote:
    18th in murders per capita

    and yes, you can own a handgun in the city now. ;)


    Only if you meet their numerous restrictions.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Where are Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson? All these black youths getting shot and killed, don't they care?
  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    no updates?

    10 more killed this weekend. :?
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  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,368
    Sorry you beat me too it.

    43 shot this weekend 10 dead. Rahm is holding a press conference today.

    http://www.suntimes.com/12837613-761/10 ... tings.html
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,065
    and where are the stats on the race and ethnicity of the majority of shooters? or is that somehow racist to print that?
  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,368
    pjhawks wrote:
    and where are the stats on the race and ethnicity of the majority of shooters? or is that somehow racist to print that?
    I would say that this is black on black crime.
  • MotoDC
    MotoDC Posts: 947
    polaris_x wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    gang violence. If you can figure out how to crack that nut you will have done mankind a great service. My contention would be eliminate the pricey black market on drugs. Puts more parents back home, gets rid of much of the incentive to operate a street gang. who knows otherwise...there are simply pockets of gang culture that are more violent than others...interesting phenomenon...

    i think gang violence is related to social infrastructure ... here in ontario ... we had minimal gang violence up until the conservatives started cutting all the social programs ... consequences were that after school programs for youth were cut ... single parents had to work more hours to make ends meet ...etc ... then we started putting money back into the social safety net and gang violence has subsided again ... although the police won't officially say it to be the case - many officers believe after school programs for youth and better community involvement has made a difference ...
    I'd agree that's part of the solution -- at least insofar as keeping kids occupied (sports, music, etc) after school is a great way to lessen the draw of gangs. But aren't we treating the symptoms rather than the cause with this approach? shadowcast posted some pretty compelling statistics above about fatherless homes.
  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    i expect a hot summer.....and a shit ton of shootings...

    clearly hot summer days should be banned. :fp:
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    bennett13 wrote:
    So all that gun control legislation works for Chicago, right? :roll:

    depends on who you ask, if you ask the bad guys (with guns) they will tell you it's working great because they love an unarmed victim but on the other hand if you ask the unarmed victim you might gat a different answer.

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    polaris_x wrote:

    i think gang violence is related to social infrastructure ... here in ontario ... we had minimal gang violence up until the conservatives started cutting all the social programs ... consequences were that after school programs for youth were cut ... single parents had to work more hours to make ends meet ...etc ... then we started putting money back into the social safety net and gang violence has subsided again ... although the police won't officially say it to be the case - many officers believe after school programs for youth and better community involvement has made a difference ...


    Ah, blame the taxpayer, it's their fault because they don't want to fund behavior programs to keep people from being animals.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    polaris_x wrote:
    ... although the police won't officially say it to be the case - many officers believe after school programs for youth and better community involvement has made a difference ...


    makes sense to me. kids get bored they do stupid shit... some it can be innocent but some can end up being illegal. theyre not wild animals.. they do need to be supervised and they do need structure.. especially if thats somewhat lacking in the home or where ever. these programmes are a good good thing and should be supported... where ever in the world they are.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Yes, they do need to be supervised. That is the job of the parents, not the taxpayers.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    unsung wrote:
    Yes, they do need to be supervised. That is the job of the parents, not the taxpayers.

    and how do parents supervise their kids AND work to support them?? cant be two places at once. and besides we all know it takes a village to raise a child so...
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  • Blockhead
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    catefrances wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Yes, they do need to be supervised. That is the job of the parents, not the taxpayers.

    and how do parents supervise their kids AND work to support them?? cant be two places at once. and besides we all know it takes a village to raise a child so...
    Can't tell if this is a serious post or not???
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    whether one wants to look at human development indexes or crime stats ... it is evident that countries that employ a socialized approach are more successful than countries that don't ...

    i think a big problem many americans have is equating their dysfunctional corporately controlled gov't as meaning gov't is bad ... sure, if i had your gov't - i would say it sucks balls too but it doesn't mean the concept of gov't and social programs are bad ...
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Blockhead wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Yes, they do need to be supervised. That is the job of the parents, not the taxpayers.

    and how do parents supervise their kids AND work to support them?? cant be two places at once. and besides we all know it takes a village to raise a child so...
    Can't tell if this is a serious post or not???

    was there one of these...> ;) or one of these...> :lol: no? then it is a serious post. which part arent you grasping?
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  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,368
    unsung wrote:
    Yes, they do need to be supervised. That is the job of the parents, not the taxpayers.

    I think you meant to say parent as over 75% of innner city black youths only have one parent. Mostly it's the mother.

    70 percent of African American children are born to unmarried mothers, and [...] at least 80 percent of all African American children can now expect to spend at least a significant part of their childhood years living apart from their fathers

    I will stand by this being the major part of the problem.
  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,368
    Rahm's press conference highlights yesterday.

    http://www.suntimes.com/12847955-761/af ... -help.html
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,392
    polaris_x wrote:
    whether one wants to look at human development indexes or crime stats ... it is evident that countries that employ a socialized approach are more successful than countries that don't ...

    i think a big problem many americans have is equating their dysfunctional corporately controlled gov't as meaning gov't is bad ... sure, if i had your gov't - i would say it sucks balls too but it doesn't mean the concept of gov't and social programs are bad ...
    I don't know if you noticed, but we are broke down here. We tax the poor through a lotto system that is supposed to help the schools (and then we tax the lucky person that wins).

    Send us some loonies and kokonees, pretty please.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    I don't know if you noticed, but we are broke down here. We tax the poor through a lotto system that is supposed to help the schools (and then we tax the lucky person that wins).

    Send us some loonies and kokonees, pretty please.

    kokonee!?? ... really!? ... :fp: :lol:

    you guys are poor because you guys are continually getting raped by the big corporations ... i know you guys are programmed to think that pro business is good for everyone but that simply isn't the case ... trickle down economics is the biggest myth and fraud perpetrated on the american people! ...

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