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NEW PJ ALBUM and mike..

esacks23esacks23 Posts: 69
edited March 2012 in The Porch
mike, please tear it up this time. sometimes i feel like you're wasted on the albums. you do amazing work with star anna and all the other artist you work with, but the last killer guitar riff you had for PJ was "given to fly". if you guys are "experimenting", i hope jack white, black keys, and zeppelin or even pink floyd are some influences floating around the lab when it comes to guitar playing. hell, get high one day in the studio. it would help. maybe you guys still do every now and then but the music would say otherwise. most classic rock songs were not written with a completely clear head, but a very open and imaginative mind.
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    ARazorbackguy1ARazorbackguy1 Posts: 456
    I heard Mike wasn't even gonna play on the next album.










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    PjdreamerPjdreamer Posts: 318
    think before you speak my child
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    RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    Nonsense and ridiculousness all in one thread. Good work
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,736
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    Nonsense and ridiculousness all in one thread. Good work

    Dude, why are you like this? I mean really. Every post you make is so grouchy. Yeah this is a meaningless thread. Sure, the notion of PJ feeling the influence of the Black Keys is silly. And so is the notion of smoking a bunch of weed to open your mind and shred. But so what? Get freakin' life and get off people's cases.
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    YLed2YLed2 Des Moines, IA Posts: 5,534
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    Nonsense and ridiculousness all in one thread. Good work

    Dude, why are you like this? I mean really. Every post you make is so grouchy. Yeah this is a meaningless thread. Sure, the notion of PJ feeling the influence of the Black Keys is silly. And so is the notion of smoking a bunch of weed to open your mind and shred. But so what? Get freakin' life and get off people's cases.

    Agree with everything said here. I think every post I see from dude is getting all over someone - even if it is a senseless thread or post. But I'm not here to tell anyone what to do or not do, but I have noticed this a lot as well.
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    kenneth gossardkenneth gossard Posts: 70
    Pjdreamer wrote:
    think before you speak my child
    ??????????? Why??????????'.....mike has been noticeably absent since the yield album and his zeppelin inspired contributions made that arguably their best album...... I agree with the original post. Lately Eddie is the only guy making these PJ albums special. Musically they have slid a bit and it would be great if stone and mike could find some magic again
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,764
    With all due respect folks, I like "nonsense and ridiculousness". But only if it's meant to be fun nonsense and ridiculousness! As for Mike's playing, I love it all but I think my favorite moment is the live "Save You" on "Live at the Showbox". Intense!!
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    FrankieGFrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,095
    kenneth gossard wrote:
    mike has been noticeably absent since the yield album

    Binaural had Nothing As it Seems, Riot Act had Save You, Avocado had Inside Job, (Backsapacer is weak all around but that's another thread...) Of The Earth was written in there somewhere, and he shreds on that!

    I would love for him to have a solo on every song, but he's not absent on the last couple!
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    iOnlyownMymindiOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,547
    Personally I'd like to see some more solid riffs from Stone. His last great one was Life Wasted.
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    NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,304
    kenneth gossard wrote:
    Pjdreamer wrote:
    think before you speak my child
    ??????????? Why??????????'.....mike has been noticeably absent since the yield album and his zeppelin inspired contributions made that arguably their best album...... I agree with the original post. Lately Eddie is the only guy making these PJ albums special. Musically they have slid a bit and it would be great if stone and mike could find some magic again

    I think riot act and avocado have more soloing from him than the rest of the catalog combined (aside from ten). He's been plenty present imo
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    erocshiftyerocshifty Posts: 1,170
    go to gremmie.net & download anything in between-SHREDFEST! also, 1/2 full, pretty much all of riot act,a lot of binaural or most of self titled. but yeah, i want my pearl "jammy"
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    kenneth gossardkenneth gossard Posts: 70
    Yield was Mike's most glowing accomplishment with pj... They weren't guitar solos that went nowhere..the song structurs were rich and timeless..
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    boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    esacks23 wrote:
    mike, please tear it up this time. sometimes i feel like you're wasted on the albums. you do amazing work with star anna and all the other artist you work with, but the last killer guitar riff you had for PJ was "given to fly". if you guys are "experimenting", i hope jack white, black keys, and zeppelin or even pink floyd are some influences floating around the lab when it comes to guitar playing. hell, get high one day in the studio. it would help. maybe you guys still do every now and then but the music would say otherwise. most classic rock songs were not written with a completely clear head, but a very open and imaginative mind.

    I'd recommend listening to Binaural especially Nothing As It Seems and Breakerfall - watch Breakerfall on the Showbox dvd, Mike's solo is amazing. Riot Act has Save You, Get Right, Half Full, Help Help and All Or None. Check out Inside Job from the self-titled album. These are just some songs, there's more.

    Yeah he was abit absent from Backspacer but he was all over Binaural, Riot Act and Pearl Jam.
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    RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    Nonsense and ridiculousness all in one thread. Good work

    Dude, why are you like this? I mean really. Every post you make is so grouchy. Yeah this is a meaningless thread. Sure, the notion of PJ feeling the influence of the Black Keys is silly. And so is the notion of smoking a bunch of weed to open your mind and shred. But so what? Get freakin' life and get off people's cases.

    Mike being non existent on the last couple of albums is utter nonsense and I stated my opinion of that very clearly.

    And for telling a recovering addict to get high every once in a while to help him out may be the most brutally ignorant post I've read on these boards.
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    esacks23esacks23 Posts: 69
    i think someone said it above maybe, but it's like his solos have no direction, no rhythm or rhyme to them, no flow, kinda like alot of the "even flow" solos... just really fast fingers and randomness(his latest, in "ole", sounds like his guitar is jammed instead of jamming and doesn't fit the song). and when i started this thread(which i knew would draw some heat, of course), i wasn't necessarily talking about his solos. i'm talking about a cool riff throughout an entire song, like "given to fly". something that subconsciously makes your head start to bob. mike's amazing, duh. he just hasn't come up with much lately imo. i'm not trying to be negative at all, i'm just a fan like everyone else and fans root for and hope for the best of whatever they're a fan of. it's like sports. i'm always hesitant to post anything on this site that's not worshiping the band. i figure there's already plenty of that on here so it's nice to shake things up a bit.
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    HailRoad24HailRoad24 Posts: 133
    esacks23 wrote:
    i think someone said it above maybe, but it's like his solos have no direction, no rhythm or rhyme to them, no flow, kinda like alot of the "even flow" solos... just really fast fingers and randomness(his latest, in "ole", sounds like his guitar is jammed instead of jamming and doesn't fit the song). and when i started this thread(which i knew would draw some heat, of course), i wasn't necessarily talking about his solos. i'm talking about a cool riff throughout an entire song, like "given to fly". something that subconsciously makes your head start to bob. mike's amazing, duh. he just hasn't come up with much lately imo. i'm not trying to be negative at all, i'm just a fan like everyone else and fans root for and hope for the best of whatever they're a fan of. it's like sports. i'm always hesitant to post anything on this site that's not worshiping the band. i figure there's already plenty of that on here so it's nice to shake things up a bit.

    Agree with you and I think a lot of people in this thread really missed what you were saying. Riffs people, not wanking solos, which he seems to do a ton of lately. I get more satisfaction listening to Stone solo these days because, like you said, he is soloing in the context of the song and you can feel it tightening and building to an end. Mike used to do that in the Black solo, which was always tremendous and didn't have that awful, organ-like effect that he's grown so fond of lately. I also don't understand the clean guitar sound these days. To me, nothing sounds better than a dirty, fuzzy guitar sound. Kinda like Uncle Neil on Le Noise.
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    GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    If you really think about both mike's solos and writing, the only album he's really missing from is backspacer. On every other album mike is sick in a totally unique way. I agree though that a good pj album definitely needs mccready. backspacer was boring. As for the op, i dont think he meant any offense with the "get high" line. I think he's just picturing them smoking a j and being more experimental in the studio... more of musical reference than one to mike's past issues.
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    goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,310
    What we really need is more grooves like this from Stone:

    http://youtu.be/LY_sxaaq5gg
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