Looks like the Birthers may have been right..

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  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    just courious...if the same issue was being debated about Bush not having a birth cert or faked cert would the "ohh no big deal" attitude still be happening on the train ?

    Godfather.


    it would for me, probably not for most, though, since they were so up in arms for 8 years over things like torture, indefinite detentions without charge or trial, eroding rights, the use of drones, guantanamo bay, the use of private contractors like black water/xe, secret closed door meetings with industry and lobbyists when determining their regulations, the continued support, arming and protecting of israel as they continue to kill and steal land........but don't seem to care at all about those things now

    i've never been an obama supporter but i could care less where was born. even if he were born in kenya he spent the overwhelming majority of his life in america.

    Yeah but... again, you have to be a natural born citizen to be the president. I think he was but I don't know for sure.

    i know, he asked if we would personally have a problem with it.

    this would also make john mccain ineligible to be president
    don't compete; coexist

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    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,253
    ^^^^NOT the same thing McCain was born in Panama on a US military base I believe which is the same as being born in Florida or any other US state. It's considered US soil or territory I believe correct me if I'm wrong.

    Peace
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Pepe Silvia wrote:

    this would also make john mccain ineligible to be president

    If you're born on a United States military base anywhere in the world you are considered a natural born citizen.
  • maj4e
    maj4e Posts: 605
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    Pepe Silvia wrote:

    this would also make john mccain ineligible to be president

    If you're born on a United States military base anywhere in the world you are considered a natural born citizen.

    ^^ I don't know why that hasn't sunk in yet.
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    mikepegg44 .....this proves him guilty........
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    well I have to say that if he did get bounced out because of his cert it would cause a ripple effect all thru Washington and more people than Obama would be affected by it...every dirty little liar that helped to push this fake cert thru would be publicly castrated and the American government made to like the currupt little bastards that they are..and I would laugh at all the fools that did dirt to get this fool elected..but I would bet my lunch that this will never happen there is way too much at stake and too many reputations and political positions on the line,I would guess that we are dealing with powers that most of us will never believe or understand, this cert issue is just wasted space on public news stations...nothing will be done about it.
    just a guess on my part though.

    Godfather.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,253
    Godfather. wrote:
    well I have to say that if he did get bounced out because of his cert it would cause a ripple effect all thru Washington and more people than Obama would be affected by it...every dirty little liar that helped to push this fake cert thru would be publicly castrat...ed and the American government made to like the currupt little bastards that they are..and I would laugh at all the fools that did dirt to get this fool elected..but I would bet my lunch that this will never happen there is way too much at stake and too many reputations and political positions on the line,I would guess that we are dealing with powers that most of us will never believe or understand, this cert issue is just wasted space on public news stations...nothing will be done about it.
    just a guess on my part though.

    Godfather.

    ...And at this point not a damn thing should be done about it...it would be a waste of money.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    g under p wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    well I have to say that if he did get bounced out because of his cert it would cause a ripple effect all thru Washington and more people than Obama would be affected by it...every dirty little liar that helped to push this fake cert thru would be publicly castrat...ed and the American government made to like the currupt little bastards that they are..and I would laugh at all the fools that did dirt to get this fool elected..but I would bet my lunch that this will never happen there is way too much at stake and too many reputations and political positions on the line,I would guess that we are dealing with powers that most of us will never believe or understand, this cert issue is just wasted space on public news stations...nothing will be done about it.
    just a guess on my part though.

    Godfather.

    ...And at this point not a damn thing should be done about it...it would be a waste of money.

    Peace

    money is the least of our worries,our money will be spent on bullshit either way I'm guessing that the political down fall and loss of political favor of the rich involved would be the biggest hit to the white house...I felt this guy Obama was bullshit right from the start and it looks like I may have been right.

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    BTW good morning G under P

    Godfather.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,253
    Godfather. wrote:
    BTW good morning G under P

    Godfather.

    Good morning it's a beautiful day down here. :D

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,253
    Godfather. wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    well I have to say that if he did get bounced out because of his cert it would cause a ripple effect all thru Washington and more people than Obama would be affected by it...every dirty little liar that helped to push this fake cert thru would be publicly castrat...ed and the American government made to like the currupt little bastards that they are..and I would laugh at all the fools that did dirt to get this fool elected..but I would bet my lunch that this will never happen there is way too much at stake and too many reputations and political positions on the line,I would guess that we are dealing with powers that most of us will never believe or understand, this cert issue is just wasted space on public news stations...nothing will be done about it.
    just a guess on my part though.

    Godfather.

    ...And at this point not a damn thing should be done about it...it would be a waste of money.

    Peace

    money is the least of our worries,our money will be spent on bullshit either way I'm guessing that the political down fall and loss of political favor of the rich involved would be the biggest hit to the white house...I felt this guy Obama was bullshit right from the start and it looks like I may have been right.

    Godfather.

    Grant you I did not vote this President into office but you believe he's bullshit because of this Birth Cetificate nonsense. It was and IS a waste of time basically a distraction from what is REALLY tearing down this country.
    Oh I will give him my vote this time around...no politician can bring this country around in four years trying to bring it back from the abyssit fell into. Back to poker. :D

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    no not because of the cert the cert is just a sign(if it proved to be fake) of what he is all about.
    but really I just had a gut feeling he was not the man for the job and I think he has proved that on more than one ocasion but that's not to say the next guy will do any better but like anything else from the voters stance we will just have to wait and see.

    Godfather.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,253
    Godfather. wrote:
    no not because of the cert the cert is just a sign(if it proved to be fake) of what he is all about.
    but really I just had a gut feeling he was not the man for the job and I think he has proved that on more than one ocasion but that's not to say the next guy will do any better but like anything else from the voters stance we will just have to wait and see.

    Godfather.

    Well he will be back in office birth certificate issues or not. This country will have to deal and adjust to that. I believe many Americans care MORE about this President getting them jobs...getting this country back on track than where he was born.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,364
    Really is this front pg news anywhere i live here in NY and nada in todays front pg's , and he will beat any of the GOP clowns that will challenge him this coming Nov .........he will pummell any of them in Debates
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    as for me I sure you guys are not right on this..but it wouldn't suprise me. :lol:


    Godfather.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,364
    Godfather. wrote:
    as for me I sure you guys are not right on this..but it wouldn't suprise me. :lol:


    Godfather.

    Hey i'm an independent voter if the GOP had a candidate that was legit and not allways spewing bullshit i would gladly vote for that candidate , but everytime i hear one of them speak about any important issues it's a no brainer they have no clue i'm sorry but they just don't ..........
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    josevolution wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    as for me I sure you guys are not right on this..but it wouldn't suprise me. :lol:


    Godfather.

    Hey i'm an independent voter if the GOP had a candidate that was legit and not allways spewing bullshit i would gladly vote for that candidate , but everytime i hear one of them speak about any important issues it's a no brainer they have no clue i'm sorry but they just don't ..........

    no argument here brother it's ugly out there.

    Godfather.
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    this is so retarded. he was born in Hawaii. there is no question about it.

    Joe Arpaio is a fucking moron and should be fired immediately for a plethora of reasons, wasting tax dollars on this subject is the latest of these reasons.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    He was born in Hawaii.

    This is just more desperate crap from Republicans, the party of "desperate off-topic diversions so we don't have to solve real problems."

    Call me when you get to that "focus on jobs from day one" thing.
    I can't drive without Pearl Jam
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,077
    well prince, they might not have the "focus on jobd from day one" thing down, but they are sure trying like hell to keep their promise to make him a one term president. and that will be the gop downfall come november.

    i can not wait to see some debates between obama and whoever gets the gop nomination. it is gonna be a bloodbath. you can not win an election on personal attacks alone....then again in this country maybe you can...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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