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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    hedonist wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Forgiveness is liberating, renovating, regenerating and in addition it changes us from the victim’s position, to self confidence, appreciation and spirit of good.
    Freedom is found in many forms. Shedding oneself of a burden doesn't necessarily have to be about forgiving another.
    pandora wrote:
    We all make mistakes and the human being goes wrong in many ways but when there is misuse of power, abandonment, misery, then this does not go away in a moment and traces stay. Forgiveness has the wonderful aptitude to heal these deep wounds.
    Heal whose wounds? If those of the abuser...no interest. If my own, there are other ways to get there...and in that respect, forgiveness IS an option, for me.

    I just don't buy that the lack of offering forgiveness is equal to a disparity in or lacking of the soul.

    We all get through our own personal traumas differently. I can respect that some rely on faith, as well as that some rely on themselves. Even somewhere in the in-between.
    Forgiveness has nothing to do with faith at all for me
    as I said that piece could pertain to non believers as well

    no not the abusers wounds :? so forgiveness is an option we agree then

    I have sought professional help for trauma and found through that guidance
    forgiving a huge part of healing. I am living proof! :D
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    pandora wrote:
    If dishonesty is a criteria I am surprised the internet is where you flourish. :lol:

    I also was surprised dishonesty, in the realm of mistreatment we incur in life,
    would be that unforgivable. People lie, its pretty common. I dislike it also
    and see much everywhere including here.

    I do agree dishonesty is a sign of one's character but for me in the big picture of life
    not something I could not understand, have empathy for, or forgive.
    I truly don't get first part...could you explain, please?

    Dishonesty comes in many forms - and some of those forms ARE unforgivable. I do realize, though, that it - like most things in life - are subjective.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    hedonist wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    If dishonesty is a criteria I am surprised the internet is where you flourish. :lol:

    I also was surprised dishonesty, in the realm of mistreatment we incur in life,
    would be that unforgivable. People lie, its pretty common. I dislike it also
    and see much everywhere including here.

    I do agree dishonesty is a sign of one's character but for me in the big picture of life
    not something I could not understand, have empathy for, or forgive.
    I truly don't get first part...could you explain, please?

    Dishonesty comes in many forms - and some of those forms ARE unforgivable. I do realize, though, that it - like most things in life - are subjective.
    I agree dishonesty comes in many forms most for me are benign in the big picture of life.
    When they entail the highest form of betrayal I can see that being unforgivable for
    some. But again my opinion one forgives not for the abuser but for one's own heart.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Ya know, thinking about this thread, I think less is more when it comes to actually talking about character. It's too difficult a subject to nail down to words.

    Stop talking about it and start living it. Live as true as you can and try not to judge anyone else.
    ...
    That's one of the best pieces of advice in this thread. The key word being TRY not to judge... because we ALL judge, whether we know it or not.
    ...
    As for character... like I said, we don't know anyone's true character... only the character that is presented to us. And all that is presented to us is typically in the form of words and actions. For example, anyone can preach a sermon of peace and love, right? Charles Manson's sermons preached those very same things. Look what horror was ultimately revealed.
    That said... I have run across enough bullshit in my life, I know what bullshit smells like.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    And more great advice ... be kind in your judging ways ;)
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    just cause you are a character doesnt mean you have character.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    when a man lies, he murders a part of the world.......
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hIcKkKID8k

    Had to 8-)
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    hedonist wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hIcKkKID8k

    Had to 8-)
    perfection! :lol:8-):D
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    A character as in person/noun
    that is something to ponder on ... I guess for me I've found them to be uplifting
    type people with endearing traits. I think back on those I've had the pleasure to know
    throughout my life.

    A character= memorable, entertaining, unique, quick witted, intelligent

    that's what comes to mind for me and I can't think of one who didn't have 'character'
    as much as the next guy that is.

    Bad judgement, I was thinking about also ... not good or bad character ...
    who's to say for sure on that
    but one's own judgement that takes action in their lives directing them
    and influencing how others perceive them.

    Perceive not judge ... big difference

    And is it bad luck or bad judgement or a bit of both ...

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