Brain differences of atheists and believers
Jeanwah
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***Note that this is a science related thread and NOT a "God" thread. I didn't start this so people can bicker about God, it's about brain differences in people according to beliefs. I thought this article was pretty interesting.
Is There a Difference between the Brain of an Atheist and the Brain of a Religious Person?
Andrew Newberg, director of research at the Myrna Brind Center of Integrative Medicine at Thomas Jefferson University and Hospital in Philadelphia, responds
By Andrew Newberg | January 16, 2012
Is there a difference between the brain of an atheist andthe brain of a religious person?
—Emma Schachner, Utah
Andrew Newberg, director of research at the Myrna Brind Center of Integrative Medicine at Thomas Jefferson University and Hospital in Philadelphia, responds:
Researchers have pinpointed differences between the brains of believers and nonbelievers, but the neural picture is not yet complete.
Several studies have revealed that people who practice meditation or have prayed for many years exhibit increased activity and have more brain tissue in their frontal lobes, regions associated with attention and reward, as compared with people who do not meditate or pray. A more recent study revealed that people who have had “born again” experiences have a smaller hippocampus, a part of the brain involved in emotions and memory, than atheists do. These findings, however, are difficult to interpret because they do not clarify whether having larger frontal lobes or a smaller hippocampus causes a person to become more religious or whether being pious triggers changes in these brain regions.
Various experiments have also tried to elucidate whether believing in God causes similar brain changes as believing in something else. The results, so far, show that thinking about God may activate the same parts of the brain as thinking about an airplane, a friend or a lamppost. For instance, one study showed that when religious people prayed to God, they used some of the same areas of the brain as when they talked to an average Joe. In other words, in the religious person’s brain, God is just as real as any object or person.
Research also suggests that a religious brain exhibits higher levels of dopamine, a hormone associated with increased attention and motivation. A study showed that believers were much more likely than skeptics to see words and faces on a screen when there were none, whereas skeptics often did not see words and faces that were actually there. Yet when skeptics were given the drug L-dopa, which increases the amount of dopamine in the brain, they were just as likely to interpret scrambled patterns as words and faces as were the religious individuals.
So what does the research mean? At the moment, we do not have a clear way to connect all the dots. For now we can say that the religious and atheist brains exhibit differences, but what causes these disparities remains unknown.
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Is There a Difference between the Brain of an Atheist and the Brain of a Religious Person?
Andrew Newberg, director of research at the Myrna Brind Center of Integrative Medicine at Thomas Jefferson University and Hospital in Philadelphia, responds
By Andrew Newberg | January 16, 2012
Is there a difference between the brain of an atheist andthe brain of a religious person?
—Emma Schachner, Utah
Andrew Newberg, director of research at the Myrna Brind Center of Integrative Medicine at Thomas Jefferson University and Hospital in Philadelphia, responds:
Researchers have pinpointed differences between the brains of believers and nonbelievers, but the neural picture is not yet complete.
Several studies have revealed that people who practice meditation or have prayed for many years exhibit increased activity and have more brain tissue in their frontal lobes, regions associated with attention and reward, as compared with people who do not meditate or pray. A more recent study revealed that people who have had “born again” experiences have a smaller hippocampus, a part of the brain involved in emotions and memory, than atheists do. These findings, however, are difficult to interpret because they do not clarify whether having larger frontal lobes or a smaller hippocampus causes a person to become more religious or whether being pious triggers changes in these brain regions.
Various experiments have also tried to elucidate whether believing in God causes similar brain changes as believing in something else. The results, so far, show that thinking about God may activate the same parts of the brain as thinking about an airplane, a friend or a lamppost. For instance, one study showed that when religious people prayed to God, they used some of the same areas of the brain as when they talked to an average Joe. In other words, in the religious person’s brain, God is just as real as any object or person.
Research also suggests that a religious brain exhibits higher levels of dopamine, a hormone associated with increased attention and motivation. A study showed that believers were much more likely than skeptics to see words and faces on a screen when there were none, whereas skeptics often did not see words and faces that were actually there. Yet when skeptics were given the drug L-dopa, which increases the amount of dopamine in the brain, they were just as likely to interpret scrambled patterns as words and faces as were the religious individuals.
So what does the research mean? At the moment, we do not have a clear way to connect all the dots. For now we can say that the religious and atheist brains exhibit differences, but what causes these disparities remains unknown.
http://digg.com/newsbar/topnews/is_ther ... ous_person
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hmm. Interesting._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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I read an article like this one about the frontal lobe and violence, the more tissue on the frontal lobe the less likely a person was to be violent and less ...well you get it, Al Capone was said to have a smaller frontal lobe so the electric signals in the brain had to pass thru less tissue giving a stronger signal and causing a more violent reaction when angered (theory).
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yes, interesting. I dont know exactly what to make of it, but I do love saying the word "hippocampus."
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Godfather. wrote:I read an article like this one about the frontal lobe and violence, the more tissue on the frontal lobe the less likely a person was to be violent and less ...well you get it, Al Capone was said to have a smaller frontal lobe so the electric signals in the brain had to pass thru less tissue giving a stronger signal and causing a more violent reaction when angered (theory).
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They should do a frontal lobotomy on those boys in the "Boys will be boys" thread.Pick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)0 -
Would it not be more effective for this guy to be working on the cure for cancer? Or curing dementia?
I got this from his website bio:
He is considered a pioneer in the neuroscientific study of religious and spiritual experiences, a field frequently referred to as – neurotheology. His work attempts to better understand the nature of religious and spiritual practices and experiences.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
JonnyPistachio wrote:yes, interesting. I dont know exactly what to make of it, but I do love saying the word "hippocampus."
Throw Medulla Oblongata in there and i'm just happy as a pig in shit.nothing better then being happy as a pig in shit.
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Jason P wrote:Would it not be more effective for this guy to be working on the cure for cancer? Or curing dementia?
I got this from his website bio:
He is considered a pioneer in the neuroscientific study of religious and spiritual experiences, a field frequently referred to as – neurotheology. His work attempts to better understand the nature of religious and spiritual practices and experiences._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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i know believing requires a different thinking so maybe we do have different brains. i wonder how the brain of a person who goes from believer to atheist looks.. what differences present themselves.hear my name
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catefrances wrote:i know believing requires a different thinking so maybe we do have different brains. i wonder how the brain of a person who goes from believer to atheist looks.. what differences present themselves.
And if switching beliefs cause changes in the brain, or vice versa.0 -
Jeanwah wrote:catefrances wrote:i know believing requires a different thinking so maybe we do have different brains. i wonder how the brain of a person who goes from believer to atheist looks.. what differences present themselves.
And if switching beliefs cause changes in the brain, or vice versa.
i cant imagine swtiching beliefs from say christianity to islam would make a difference... after all youre still a monotheist. id also be interested in seeing if there was a difference if one switched from christianity/islam to buddhism. and what of those agnostics??? and does the brain of a fundamentalist differ from the not so zealous believer?hear my name
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catefrances wrote:Jeanwah wrote:catefrances wrote:i know believing requires a different thinking so maybe we do have different brains. i wonder how the brain of a person who goes from believer to atheist looks.. what differences present themselves.
And if switching beliefs cause changes in the brain, or vice versa.
i cant imagine swtiching beliefs from say christianity to islam would make a difference... after all youre still a monotheist. id also be interested in seeing if there was a difference if one switched from christianity/islam to buddhism. and what of those agnostics??? and does the brain of a fundamentalist differ from the not so zealous believer?
Yeah, I was thinking going from being, say, Christian, to atheist. The biggest extreme.0 -
I believe that not believing is a belief, itself. In other words... my belief is that we just don't know for sure... so, we can't say either way. Sure, we can 'feel' certain things... but, feeling is not knowing.
I also believe that we create obstacles to learning and truth... when we think we already have the answers.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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Jeanwah wrote:Yeah, I was thinking going from being, say, Christian, to atheist. The biggest extreme.
i see the opposite as being the bigger extreme.. i can not even imagine what it would be that would have me turn into a believer.hear my name
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catefrances wrote:Jeanwah wrote:Yeah, I was thinking going from being, say, Christian, to atheist. The biggest extreme.
i see the opposite as being the bigger extreme.. i can not even imagine what it would be that would have me turn into a believer.
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Cosmo wrote:I believe that not believing is a belief, itself. In other words... my belief is that we just don't know for sure... so, we can't say either way. Sure, we can 'feel' certain things... but, feeling is not knowing.
I also believe that we create obstacles to learning and truth... when we think we already have the answers.
not believing and just not knowing for sure are two different things. i find the term belief/believe to be loaded. its not that i dont believe tis just for me God doesnt exist... much like unicorns. but if i said i dont believe in unicorns people would look at me weird as if to say well who would?.hear my name
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Jeanwah wrote:catefrances wrote:Jeanwah wrote:Yeah, I was thinking going from being, say, Christian, to atheist. The biggest extreme.
i see the opposite as being the bigger extreme.. i can not even imagine what it would be that would have me turn into a believer.
Imagine what your brain might look like!
im busting to see what my brain looks like.... maybe one day when i go to the doctors to see if 40 years of headaches is normal..hear my name
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catefrances wrote:Cosmo wrote:I believe that not believing is a belief, itself. In other words... my belief is that we just don't know for sure... so, we can't say either way. Sure, we can 'feel' certain things... but, feeling is not knowing.
I also believe that we create obstacles to learning and truth... when we think we already have the answers.
not believing and just not knowing for sure are two different things. i find the term belief/believe to be loaded. its not that i dont believe tis just for me God doesnt exist... much like unicorns. but if i said i dont believe in unicorns people would look at me weird as if to say well who would?.
Point taken.
Along those same lines... why don't people who utilize the part of the brain that triggers religious and/or spiritual belief... believe in Unicorns?Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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Cosmo wrote:catefrances wrote:Cosmo wrote:I believe that not believing is a belief, itself. In other words... my belief is that we just don't know for sure... so, we can't say either way. Sure, we can 'feel' certain things... but, feeling is not knowing.
I also believe that we create obstacles to learning and truth... when we think we already have the answers.
not believing and just not knowing for sure are two different things. i find the term belief/believe to be loaded. its not that i dont believe tis just for me God doesnt exist... much like unicorns. but if i said i dont believe in unicorns people would look at me weird as if to say well who would?.
Point taken.
Along those same lines... why don't people who utilize the part of the brain that triggers religious and/or spiritual belief... believe in Unicorns?
lack of evidence perhaps.:think:
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