EUROPEAN TIX PRESALE FORUM DIALOGUE WITH PJ MGR KELLY CURTIS

over bends · December 2011

meme wrote:

over bends wrote:

I'm totally late to the party (both this topic and this controversy) but a few years back they had a system where it was "hey everyone, there might be a second show, we'll sell you 10c tickets to it, but if it doesn't happen you'll get a refund." Was there anything wrong with doing things that way?

I believe the answer to that was: I got cocky in the past and we can't presume anything in this economy.

Yeah, I am not sure I got it either.

Really weird response. Especially given that it's no harm, no foul if there is no 2nd show.

bootlegger10 · December 2011

over bends wrote:

meme wrote:

over bends wrote:

I'm totally late to the party (both this topic and this controversy) but a few years back they had a system where it was "hey everyone, there might be a second show, we'll sell you 10c tickets to it, but if it doesn't happen you'll get a refund." Was there anything wrong with doing things that way?

I believe the answer to that was: I got cocky in the past and we can't presume anything in this economy.

Yeah, I am not sure I got it either.

Really weird response. Especially given that it's no harm, no foul if there is no 2nd show.

Maybe other than admitting the popularity isn't as big as they thought.

big mick · December 2011

Thanks for this thread, a few points:
1) Why no warning of 2nd Manchester show?
2) Is anything happening regarding compensating fans who have not got tenclub tickets for the tour?
3) Why were tickets sold this close to Christmas?
4) Why no news following the Crowdsurge Cock up for so long? (some of us lost a lot of sleep and money over this).
Cheers Big Mick.

Sawyer · December 2011

I owned this thread.......yes, I'm a virgin

bootlegger10 · December 2011

mh210105 wrote:

Thanks for this thread, a few points:
1) Why no warning of 2nd Manchester show?
2) Is anything happening regarding compensating fans who have not got tenclub tickets for the tour?
3) Why were tickets sold this close to Christmas?
4) Why no news following the Crowdsurge Cock up for so long? (some of us lost a lot of sleep and money over this).
Cheers Big Mick.

These were all answered. Check out DriftingbytheStorm's summary thread of all of the answers.

Except for the Christmas question.

kenshunt · December 2011

rival. wrote:

dunkman wrote:

look Kelly .. i'll shut up if you let my friend, and a lot of other people's friend on here, Boston Lou back onto the forums.

Why is he the only member banned for life? yet many other 'fans' have said and done much worse.. Lou is a big supporter of the PJ Community and has even had Ed wear his hat on stage... when the new forum came live perhaps we should have all started on a clean slate? Re-instate this charitable and friendly member and I'll stop moaning

I also think Kelly is bearing the brunt of our ire... he is not 100% responsible for this, but at least he is manning up.. to a point (the 2nd night question being evaded like a green cheese at a buffet aside)

shared a cab with boston lou in philly '09. straight up awesome guy. i don't know if he was more proud of ed wearing his hat on stage or his then new born

reinstate!

Boston Lou, i loved that guy :twisted:

mookeywrench · December 2011

RFTC wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

actually, I gotta go with Sawyer on this one. that was clearly a troubling answer. the man has been the band's manager for 20 years in the music business, and he's mocking the fans by asking them if they have any better ideas? Kinda like Tim did when he told us to start our own band if we didn't like how things were.

it wasn't necessary for Kelly to say that. I think Sawyer's comment was right on the money. If I call a plumber to my house for a water leak and he asked me how to fix it I'd kick his ass out the door.

YEP-100

He wasn't mocking us. He was sincerely asking for the fans input for brainstorming ideas. It's what good mgrs do.

Better Dan · December 2011

mookeywrench wrote:

He wasn't mocking us. He was sincerely asking for the fans input for brainstorming ideas. It's what good mgrs do.

This. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Kelly never does anything like this again. Some people were really disrespectful.

dimitrispearljam · December 2011

Better Dan wrote:

mookeywrench wrote:

He wasn't mocking us. He was sincerely asking for the fans input for brainstorming ideas. It's what good mgrs do.

This. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Kelly never does anything like this again. Some people were really disrespectful.

yeah...cos people instead of use their brain and ask as many question they could about the tour,how is things and etc,now we have in the forum the manager of the band,ask why he do that for europe and not for usa tour and why Tim isnt fired yet...

KingJeremyD · December 2011

Hi Dan,

He had to know that this would happen....I think Kelly should do this once a month...Just to keep everyone in the loop....Since we know Tim isn't going to give us any info..

Jeremy

jimbojones1138 · December 2011

KingJeremyD wrote:

Hi Dan,

He had to know that this would happen....I think Kelly should do this once a month...Just to keep everyone in the loop....Since we know Tim isn't going to give us any info..

Jeremy

after today i doubt he would. way too much disrespect. "diane sawyer" over there asking the hard hitting questions... yeah, real classy! :roll:

droptheleash2216 · December 2011

I give Kelly a lot of props for taking some time (which if I'm him I'd like back) to answer some questions from a minority of the fan base that act like entitled children. This just shows how unbelievably fan focused this band is and why we need to APPRECIATE them and the great people at the 10Club. If you go back 10 years plus you would realize this band has revolutionized the fan experience. We have all been shut out on 10club tickets and LE merchandise....get over it, life is not about getting everything you want all the time. Pearl Jam gives you the ability to buy the best seats in the house at face value not for hundreds or thousands scalped.
So have some Holiday spirit, stop wasting your time complaining and realize that it makes much more sense to live in the present tense.

PillowPants · December 2011

bootlegger10 wrote:

rival. wrote:

shared a cab with boston lou in philly '09. straight up awesome guy. i don't know if he was more proud of ed wearing his hat on stage or his then new born

reinstate!

I don't know what is more crazy. The ticket fiascos or grown men throwing clothing at a band to wear? I don't get it.

i don't know what's more crazy people hitting F5 for hours on end... or people not know what they're talking about

check the vid... Ed begs for the hat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikgOHJrS ... ature=plcp

:wave:

:thumbup:

mauichick · December 2011

Thanks Kelly for doing this and for saying going back to post cards is under consideration. Itd be nice to break up w my f5 and backspacer for awhile. Have a colleague who is a deadhead and actually can get work done when tix go onsale. Cheers and Happy Xmas.

Hugh Freaking Dillon · December 2011

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Better Dan wrote:

mookeywrench wrote:

He wasn't mocking us. He was sincerely asking for the fans input for brainstorming ideas. It's what good mgrs do.

This. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Kelly never does anything like this again. Some people were really disrespectful.

yeah...cos people instead of use their brain and ask as many question they could about the tour,how is things and etc,now we have in the forum the manager of the band,ask why he do that for europe and not for usa tour and why Tim isnt fired yet...

even you veered off the topic. You asked why no Greece tour dates. so you are just as guilty here of what you speak.

einatshaul · December 2011

Q: You'd sell out in Israel, too. Try it for a change.

dimitrispearljam · December 2011

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

[even you veered off the topic. You asked why no Greece tour dates. so you are just as guilty here of what you speak.

i ask how they plan the euro tour,about countries...not complain about things nothing to do with euro tour
and after they add moreshows,maybe more countries will be in..like 2006..my country show added aftyer the first announcement of 2006 tour

Hugh Freaking Dillon · December 2011

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

[even you veered off the topic. You asked why no Greece tour dates. so you are just as guilty here of what you speak.

i ask how they plan the euro tour,about countries...not complain about things nothing to do with euro tour

ok, but to be fair, the topic was about the euro ticket presale, not just european touring in general. just saying man. if you veer off topic, you veer off topic, no grey area.

Suziemay · December 2011

theserialthrilla wrote:

kelly

as a very avid collector can i have a glow in the dark pj20...i cant afford to buy one..

please please pleassssssssssse

Mr. Curtis, I think this should be your #1 priority

dimitrispearljam · December 2011

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

[even you veered off the topic. You asked why no Greece tour dates. so you are just as guilty here of what you speak.

i ask how they plan the euro tour,about countries...not complain about things nothing to do with euro tour

ok, but to be fair, the topic was about the euro ticket presale, not just european touring in general. just saying man. if you veer off topic, you veer off topic, no grey area.

they add dates...maybe more...and i want to know if will add more..i know that Greece isnt i ..but
if they add more...sure we need to know..cos there is no presale,and we learn it from ticketmaster..
we need to plan the tour,our travel...i kow how hard is,,21 shows,20 of them i use my passport to see the band...so need to know before i book everything if they gonna play more shows and where..
its a question has to do with no presale and announcement...
you think of topic..its ok..no problem here..just i explain how i think of it

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