This is going to sound VERY NAIVE of me but I will apologize in advance. I also only read the first page before posting...
Anyway, I only know the Beatles through commercial/media/movies etc...I never actually listened to any of their albums just songs through these outlets. But when people say they are the band of the 60s in that EVERYONE listened to them...is that similar to how everyone listened to N Sync in the late 90s or Britney Spears in 2000s or some hip hop rtist that I am sure has been really big and is always played at the clubs and all over radio that I cannot even think of because I hate that kind of music?!
I mean a band like Pearl Jam is actually talented musically and lyrically. I just wanna know if the Beatles were just the mainstream choice of their era or are they as timeless as people make them out to be?!
whoa whoa whoa whoa lol never ever compare the beatles to n sync or britney spears.
there are a few things you have to take into consideration:
1.) the beatles recorded all of their albums in less than 10 years (i think it's around 7 years to be exact).
2.) they literally changed the direction of music as we know it. if it weren't for them, bands like pearl jam or radiohead would not exist. they started everything.
3.) they wrote all of their own songs (music and lyrics). nsync never did that.
4.) you might take for granted the idea of an album, but if it weren't for rubber soul we'd still be listening to singles.
5.) again, you might take for granted the idea of experimentation in music but the beatles did that first. listen to Help and then pop on Abbey Road. it's like you're listening to two different bands. those guys were unreal.
6.) they were talented musicians. they weren't the greatest of all time, but damn they were good.
6.) like i said above but with songwriting (lyrics)... only they were the greatest of all time.
7.) they were the first to perform a concert at a stadium
i could go on forever. the biggest difference between pop stars of the 90s (besides the obvious talent gap) and the beatles is that the beatles spoke to a generation and they still do. they're timeless. i doubt anyone still wears an nsync tshirt lol
This is going to sound VERY NAIVE of me but I will apologize in advance. I also only read the first page before posting...
Anyway, I only know the Beatles through commercial/media/movies etc...I never actually listened to any of their albums just songs through these outlets. But when people say they are the band of the 60s in that EVERYONE listened to them...is that similar to how everyone listened to N Sync in the late 90s or Britney Spears in 2000s or some hip hop rtist that I am sure has been really big and is always played at the clubs and all over radio that I cannot even think of because I hate that kind of music?!
I mean a band like Pearl Jam is actually talented musically and lyrically. I just wanna know if the Beatles were just the mainstream choice of their era or are they as timeless as people make them out to be?!
whoa whoa whoa whoa lol never ever compare the beatles to n sync or britney spears.
there are a few things you have to take into consideration:
1.) the beatles recorded all of their albums in less than 10 years (i think it's around 7 years to be exact).
2.) they literally changed the direction of music as we know it. if it weren't for them, bands like pearl jam or radiohead would not exist. they started everything.
3.) they wrote all of their own songs (music and lyrics). nsync never did that.
4.) you might take for granted the idea of an album, but if it weren't for rubber soul we'd still be listening to singles.
5.) again, you might take for granted the idea of experimentation in music but the beatles did that first. listen to Help and then pop on Abbey Road. it's like you're listening to two different bands. those guys were unreal.
6.) they were talented musicians. they weren't the greatest of all time, but damn they were good.
6.) like i said above but with songwriting (lyrics)... only they were the greatest of all time.
7.) they were the first to perform a concert at a stadium
i could go on forever. the biggest difference between pop stars of the 90s (besides the obvious talent gap) and the beatles is that the beatles spoke to a generation and they still do. they're timeless. i doubt anyone still wears an nsync tshirt lol
In fairness, the Beatles didn't write all of their own songs - Please Please Me, With the Beatles, and Beatles for Sale all have 6 covers, and Help! has 2.
In fairness, the Beatles didn't write all of their own songs - Please Please Me, With the Beatles, and Beatles for Sale all have 6 covers, and Help! has 2.
you bastard lol jk
covers aside, they never had anyone write their songs for them is what i meant
Listening to Rubber Soul. I always get on a Beatles/John Lennon mood around the anniversary of John's tragic death.
Someone ask earlier if The Beatles music is timeless...in 2007 when they released their music digitally remastered they occupied nearly every spot in charts...that's nearly 40 years after calling it quits. Their music is still a top seller today.
If Pearl Jam broke up today...with the exception of small group Pearl Jam nerds I highly doubt they'll be in most people's consciousness 40 years later and if they reissued their music 40 years later most would not notice.
Individually they may not be the greatest...but collectively no band in any genre can compare.
Something that seems to always go unnoticed is that John Lennon was 1 of the first mega stars to become an activist and was a great champion of peace...far greater champion of peace than Eddie Vedder...Vedder was a champion of peace when the republican was in office...not so much now that the democrat is in office. Lennon didn't care about political stripes he championed peace.
Saw Paul McCartney this past summer he played for nearly 3 hours in front of nearly 40000 people...he was 67 at the time...my wife made a bold statement...he was every bit as good as any Pearl Jam show...I agreed...that's at 67...he still touring today and is planning a US tour next summer.
Us Pearl Jam nerds are just hoping for a show within driving distance so we can see them. Pearl Jam now tours like an old band because many of their tours are greatest hits tours.
To my knowledge The Stones only did 1 Greatest hits tour and that was 40 licks and Keith Richards hated the fact they did it.
So to compare Pearl Jam with The Beatles or Stones or Zeppelin is just silly the things these bands have accomplished in their careers really goes unmatched.
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Listening to Rubber Soul. I always get on a Beatles/John Lennon mood around the anniversary of John's tragic death.
Someone ask earlier if The Beatles music is timeless...in 2007 when they released their music digitally remastered they occupied nearly every spot in charts...that's nearly 40 years after calling it quits. Their music is still a top seller today.
If Pearl Jam broke up today...with the exception of small group Pearl Jam nerds I highly doubt they'll be in most people's consciousness 40 years later and if they reissued their music 40 years later most would not notice.
Individually they may not be the greatest...but collectively no band in any genre can compare.
Something that seems to always go unnoticed is that John Lennon was 1 of the first mega stars to become an activist and was a great champion of peace...far greater champion of peace than Eddie Vedder...Vedder was a champion of peace when the republican was in office...not so much now that the democrat is in office. Lennon didn't care about political stripes he championed peace.
Saw Paul McCartney this past summer he played for nearly 3 hours in front of nearly 40000 people...he was 67 at the time...my wife made a bold statement...he was every bit as good as any Pearl Jam show...I agreed...that's at 67...he still touring today and is planning a US tour next summer.
Us Pearl Jam nerds are just hoping for a show within driving distance so we can see them. Pearl Jam now tours like an old band because many of their tours are greatest hits tours.
To my knowledge The Stones only did 1 Greatest hits tour and that was 40 licks and Keith Richards hated the fact they did it.
So to compare Pearl Jam with The Beatles or Stones or Zeppelin is just silly the things these bands have accomplished in their careers really goes unmatched.
Couple of typos:
1) When their albums were digitally remastered, they came out in 2009, not 2007.
2) Paul is 69, not 67.
Other than that, I agree with everything you said! Also, people were mad John was using his star power to promote peace.
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Not to break anyone's heart around here but most people don't think Pearl Jam is even still around. Most people don't think they've put out an album since the 90's. I love Pearl Jam but comparing them to the Beatles?? Most people laugh at me when I say PJ is my favorite band. Get your head out of your asses and learn something about popular music broader than the scope of just what you like. The word "better" is subjective of course but I can't think of a metric where PJ comes out on top over the Beatles (other than one's personal preference).
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If Pearl Jam broke up today...with the exception of small group Pearl Jam nerds I highly doubt they'll be in most people's consciousness 40 years later and if they reissued their music 40 years later most would not notice.
Something that seems to always go unnoticed is that John Lennon was 1 of the first mega stars to become an activist and was a great champion of peace...far greater champion of peace than Eddie Vedder...Vedder was a champion of peace when the republican was in office...not so much now that the democrat is in office. Lennon didn't care about political stripes he championed peace.
Most people thought Pearl Jam broke up after their 4th album. I don't think anyone in the world thought that the Beatles broke up before they did.
Great point on John Lennon's activism. The government seems to be A-OK in Pearl Jam's world since the Democrat took over.
Listening to Rubber Soul. I always get on a Beatles/John Lennon mood around the anniversary of John's tragic death.
Someone ask earlier if The Beatles music is timeless...in 2007 when they released their music digitally remastered they occupied nearly every spot in charts...that's nearly 40 years after calling it quits. Their music is still a top seller today.
If Pearl Jam broke up today...with the exception of small group Pearl Jam nerds I highly doubt they'll be in most people's consciousness 40 years later and if they reissued their music 40 years later most would not notice.
Individually they may not be the greatest...but collectively no band in any genre can compare.
Something that seems to always go unnoticed is that John Lennon was 1 of the first mega stars to become an activist and was a great champion of peace...far greater champion of peace than Eddie Vedder...Vedder was a champion of peace when the republican was in office...not so much now that the democrat is in office. Lennon didn't care about political stripes he championed peace.
Saw Paul McCartney this past summer he played for nearly 3 hours in front of nearly 40000 people...he was 67 at the time...my wife made a bold statement...he was every bit as good as any Pearl Jam show...I agreed...that's at 67...he still touring today and is planning a US tour next summer.
Us Pearl Jam nerds are just hoping for a show within driving distance so we can see them. Pearl Jam now tours like an old band because many of their tours are greatest hits tours.
To my knowledge The Stones only did 1 Greatest hits tour and that was 40 licks and Keith Richards hated the fact they did it.
So to compare Pearl Jam with The Beatles or Stones or Zeppelin is just silly the things these bands have accomplished in their careers really goes unmatched.
Couple of typos:
1) When their albums were digitally remastered, they came out in 2009, not 2007.
2) Paul is 69, not 67.
Other than that, I agree with everything you said! Also, people were mad John was using his star power to promote peace.
Thank you I stand corrected :oops:. Local newspaper said he was 67, should know better, newspapers don't fact check anymore...69 makes it all that more impressive.
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If Pearl Jam broke up today...with the exception of small group Pearl Jam nerds I highly doubt they'll be in most people's consciousness 40 years later and if they reissued their music 40 years later most would not notice.
Something that seems to always go unnoticed is that John Lennon was 1 of the first mega stars to become an activist and was a great champion of peace...far greater champion of peace than Eddie Vedder...Vedder was a champion of peace when the republican was in office...not so much now that the democrat is in office. Lennon didn't care about political stripes he championed peace.
Most people thought Pearl Jam broke up after their 4th album. I don't think anyone in the world thought that the Beatles broke up before they did.
Great point on John Lennon's activism. The government seems to be A-OK in Pearl Jam's world since the Democrat took over.
I don't understand the A-OK with the government thing now...the war was ramped up in Afghanistan, they supported by supplying military support to Libia and are ramping up the rhetoric with regards to Iran!!!! none of which would have been acceptable to Lennon.
And they are big time environmental supporters yet they hold a pj 20 festival mile from no where forcing most of us who attended to drive.
Pearl Jam are activist but they are more of the do as I say not as I do type.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Listening to Rubber Soul. I always get on a Beatles/John Lennon mood around the anniversary of John's tragic death.
Someone ask earlier if The Beatles music is timeless...in 2007 when they released their music digitally remastered they occupied nearly every spot in charts...that's nearly 40 years after calling it quits. Their music is still a top seller today.
If Pearl Jam broke up today...with the exception of small group Pearl Jam nerds I highly doubt they'll be in most people's consciousness 40 years later and if they reissued their music 40 years later most would not notice.
Individually they may not be the greatest...but collectively no band in any genre can compare.
Something that seems to always go unnoticed is that John Lennon was 1 of the first mega stars to become an activist and was a great champion of peace...far greater champion of peace than Eddie Vedder...Vedder was a champion of peace when the republican was in office...not so much now that the democrat is in office. Lennon didn't care about political stripes he championed peace.
Saw Paul McCartney this past summer he played for nearly 3 hours in front of nearly 40000 people...he was 67 at the time...my wife made a bold statement...he was every bit as good as any Pearl Jam show...I agreed...that's at 67...he still touring today and is planning a US tour next summer.
Us Pearl Jam nerds are just hoping for a show within driving distance so we can see them. Pearl Jam now tours like an old band because many of their tours are greatest hits tours.
To my knowledge The Stones only did 1 Greatest hits tour and that was 40 licks and Keith Richards hated the fact they did it.
So to compare Pearl Jam with The Beatles or Stones or Zeppelin is just silly the things these bands have accomplished in their careers really goes unmatched.
Also, people were mad John was using his star power to promote peace.
Yes especially the US government...but he kept on promoting peace...and Ono continues to use his name to promote peace (to her credit)...Ringo also continues to promote peace...I just like the fact it's done non politically...they don't care about political stripes.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Not to break anyone's heart around here but most people don't think Pearl Jam is even still around. Most people don't think they've put out an album since the 90's. I love Pearl Jam but comparing them to the Beatles?? Most people laugh at me when I say PJ is my favorite band. Get your head out of your asses and learn something about popular music broader than the scope of just what you like. The word "better" is subjective of course but I can't think of a metric where PJ comes out on top over the Beatles (other than one's personal preference).
Who gives a fuck when "most people" think PJ put out their last album? You're a fan right? you cares what anyone else thinks? I'm sick of people telling others to get their "heads out of their asses" because their taste in music lame or uneducated etc blah blah blah...Of course the Beatles are a hugely iconic rock band but as far as im concerned I would much rather listen to PJ so I guess that's (at least for me) a "metric where PJ comes out on top".......Which is the only metric that should matter to you anyways
Not to break anyone's heart around here but most people don't think Pearl Jam is even still around. Most people don't think they've put out an album since the 90's. I love Pearl Jam but comparing them to the Beatles?? Most people laugh at me when I say PJ is my favorite band. Get your head out of your asses and learn something about popular music broader than the scope of just what you like. The word "better" is subjective of course but I can't think of a metric where PJ comes out on top over the Beatles (other than one's personal preference).
Who gives a fuck when "most people" think PJ put out their last album? You're a fan right? you cares what anyone else thinks? I'm sick of people telling others to get their "heads out of their asses" because their taste in music lame or uneducated etc blah blah blah...Of course the Beatles are a hugely iconic rock band but as far as im concerned I would much rather listen to PJ so I guess that's (at least for me) a "metric where PJ comes out on top".......Which is the only metric that should matter to you anyways
you must care, you replied. A thread was started...I took that as an invitation to debate the topic and state my case why I thought the beatles and stones are better...like it or not its just a debate.
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i think its ones choice and perogative to say they like a band better than the beatles. but you cant really say any band since them is more influential or important. Its sort of laughable to even make an argument otherwise. Are you really suggesting to me another band is more influential and important than the beatles? PJ is influential and important but i think they'd laugh in your face if you told them what the OP said. In fact its so absurd because its naive in its view. Ed and the guys would tell us, tell you, the beatles were music that was formative to the band itself and its members. PJ would exist without the beatles. You really think Ed covered Youve got to Hide Your Love Away because he felt PJ was more influential than the band that wrote and played that tune? or when he took his daughter to a bookstore to have her be read a childrens book by Sir Paul? You really are suggesting to me, he did that because he viewed the beatles and sir paul as "just another band"? give me a break.
Beyond the beatles, we all know how important Pete and the Who were to Ed, and maybe even more than the beatles they were THAT band to him. Same argument applies there though. Ed and the band most certainly DO NOT THINK they are more influential or important than the Who nor do they think they are better than the Stones? You see Ed and Matt gushing after they opened for them? PJ opened for THEM. not the other way around.
taking PJ out of the equation and just discussing the beatles as a band and their impact, importance, influence etc.. its vast and immense my friend. The beatles werent just some band. They were the most important band that ever existed and Lennon/ Mccartney among the top songwriters to ever live
the beatles wouldn't have gotten to the experimentalism of revolver & rubber soul if dylan wouldn't have got them stoned. read the love you make. i forget who wrote it, but dylan heard them on the radio & was like-"i need to get these guys stoned" and then came the great, experimental records.
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the beatles wouldn't have gotten to the experimentalism of revolver & rubber soul if dylan wouldn't have got them stoned. read the love you make. i forget who wrote it, but dylan heard them on the radio & was like-"i need to get these guys stoned" and then came the great, experimental records.
Dylan thought they already smoked pot when he heard "I Want to Hold Your Hand" and thought they were singing "I get high" before he met them.
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the beatles wouldn't have gotten to the experimentalism of revolver & rubber soul if dylan wouldn't have got them stoned. read the love you make. i forget who wrote it, but dylan heard them on the radio & was like-"i need to get these guys stoned" and then came the great, experimental records.
best vocal & frontband as well as bandmembers over all, lyrics, songs, name, spirit, thoughts, views, relationship to their fans.. I could continue for ages
can't think of a band that could match Pj, & defenatly not beatles and stones, HA!
Oh, getting personal now?
I guess you took my anti-union comments to heart.
There there.
get a grip mate look at your posts. deliberate baiting = troll
you have done it here. you do it there.
you may find your comments funny. I find them devoid of any fact or merit.
I love PJ. there music has been the soundtrack to my adult life.
but the beatles and the stones have so many songs that are classics. many many many classics
they were pivitol in rock and roll
Oh, getting personal now?
I guess you took my anti-union comments to heart.
There there.
get a grip mate look at your posts. deliberate baiting = troll
you have done it here. you do it there.
you may find your comments funny. I find them devoid of any fact or merit.
It's called taking this piss, clowning around.
Get a sense of humour perhaps.
If I were a troll I wouldn't do it for 3 years and so many posts, perhaps you miss my 'serious' posts....
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Not to break anyone's heart around here but most people don't think Pearl Jam is even still around. Most people don't think they've put out an album since the 90's. I love Pearl Jam but comparing them to the Beatles?? Most people laugh at me when I say PJ is my favorite band. Get your head out of your asses and learn something about popular music broader than the scope of just what you like. The word "better" is subjective of course but I can't think of a metric where PJ comes out on top over the Beatles (other than one's personal preference).
Who gives a fuck when "most people" think PJ put out their last album? You're a fan right? you cares what anyone else thinks? I'm sick of people telling others to get their "heads out of their asses" because their taste in music lame or uneducated etc blah blah blah...Of course the Beatles are a hugely iconic rock band but as far as im concerned I would much rather listen to PJ so I guess that's (at least for me) a "metric where PJ comes out on top".......Which is the only metric that should matter to you anyways
Hahaha, first of all; calm down.
I can only assume that reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Did I say I give a damn what other people think? No, I don't CARE what they think, I was simply commenting ON what they think. When you're talking about two bands and who's "better", one of the topics you might discuss is cultural relevance. When you're debating something, shouldn't you be informed about the topic? The only thing "lame or ignorant" is showing up on a thread that's debating something and trivializing the argument by saying "I would much rather listen to PJ [so therefore they're better]". Is that really all you have to contribute? Are you twelve years old, or just an idiot?
Again, Pearl Jam is my favorite band but that's not what we're talking about. I'm sorry you can't have an objective discussion.
Comments
and some people are trolls
Oh, getting personal now?
I guess you took my anti-union comments to heart.
There there.
PJ is better than any band around the world and that's it!!!
whoa whoa whoa whoa lol never ever compare the beatles to n sync or britney spears.
there are a few things you have to take into consideration:
1.) the beatles recorded all of their albums in less than 10 years (i think it's around 7 years to be exact).
2.) they literally changed the direction of music as we know it. if it weren't for them, bands like pearl jam or radiohead would not exist. they started everything.
3.) they wrote all of their own songs (music and lyrics). nsync never did that.
4.) you might take for granted the idea of an album, but if it weren't for rubber soul we'd still be listening to singles.
5.) again, you might take for granted the idea of experimentation in music but the beatles did that first. listen to Help and then pop on Abbey Road. it's like you're listening to two different bands. those guys were unreal.
6.) they were talented musicians. they weren't the greatest of all time, but damn they were good.
6.) like i said above but with songwriting (lyrics)... only they were the greatest of all time.
7.) they were the first to perform a concert at a stadium
i could go on forever. the biggest difference between pop stars of the 90s (besides the obvious talent gap) and the beatles is that the beatles spoke to a generation and they still do. they're timeless. i doubt anyone still wears an nsync tshirt lol
In fairness, the Beatles didn't write all of their own songs - Please Please Me, With the Beatles, and Beatles for Sale all have 6 covers, and Help! has 2.
you bastard lol jk
covers aside, they never had anyone write their songs for them is what i meant
Someone ask earlier if The Beatles music is timeless...in 2007 when they released their music digitally remastered they occupied nearly every spot in charts...that's nearly 40 years after calling it quits. Their music is still a top seller today.
If Pearl Jam broke up today...with the exception of small group Pearl Jam nerds I highly doubt they'll be in most people's consciousness 40 years later and if they reissued their music 40 years later most would not notice.
Individually they may not be the greatest...but collectively no band in any genre can compare.
Something that seems to always go unnoticed is that John Lennon was 1 of the first mega stars to become an activist and was a great champion of peace...far greater champion of peace than Eddie Vedder...Vedder was a champion of peace when the republican was in office...not so much now that the democrat is in office. Lennon didn't care about political stripes he championed peace.
Saw Paul McCartney this past summer he played for nearly 3 hours in front of nearly 40000 people...he was 67 at the time...my wife made a bold statement...he was every bit as good as any Pearl Jam show...I agreed...that's at 67...he still touring today and is planning a US tour next summer.
Us Pearl Jam nerds are just hoping for a show within driving distance so we can see them. Pearl Jam now tours like an old band because many of their tours are greatest hits tours.
To my knowledge The Stones only did 1 Greatest hits tour and that was 40 licks and Keith Richards hated the fact they did it.
So to compare Pearl Jam with The Beatles or Stones or Zeppelin is just silly the things these bands have accomplished in their careers really goes unmatched.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
1) When their albums were digitally remastered, they came out in 2009, not 2007.
2) Paul is 69, not 67.
Other than that, I agree with everything you said! Also, people were mad John was using his star power to promote peace.
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Most people thought Pearl Jam broke up after their 4th album. I don't think anyone in the world thought that the Beatles broke up before they did.
Great point on John Lennon's activism. The government seems to be A-OK in Pearl Jam's world since the Democrat took over.
is is correct here. Pearl Jam is one band. You could say Pearl Jam's band members are better than The Beatles' band members.
Thank you I stand corrected :oops:. Local newspaper said he was 67, should know better, newspapers don't fact check anymore...69 makes it all that more impressive.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I don't understand the A-OK with the government thing now...the war was ramped up in Afghanistan, they supported by supplying military support to Libia and are ramping up the rhetoric with regards to Iran!!!! none of which would have been acceptable to Lennon.
And they are big time environmental supporters yet they hold a pj 20 festival mile from no where forcing most of us who attended to drive.
Pearl Jam are activist but they are more of the do as I say not as I do type.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Yes especially the US government...but he kept on promoting peace...and Ono continues to use his name to promote peace (to her credit)...Ringo also continues to promote peace...I just like the fact it's done non politically...they don't care about political stripes.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Who gives a fuck when "most people" think PJ put out their last album? You're a fan right? you cares what anyone else thinks? I'm sick of people telling others to get their "heads out of their asses" because their taste in music lame or uneducated etc blah blah blah...Of course the Beatles are a hugely iconic rock band but as far as im concerned I would much rather listen to PJ so I guess that's (at least for me) a "metric where PJ comes out on top".......Which is the only metric that should matter to you anyways
you must care, you replied. A thread was started...I took that as an invitation to debate the topic and state my case why I thought the beatles and stones are better...like it or not its just a debate.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Beyond the beatles, we all know how important Pete and the Who were to Ed, and maybe even more than the beatles they were THAT band to him. Same argument applies there though. Ed and the band most certainly DO NOT THINK they are more influential or important than the Who nor do they think they are better than the Stones? You see Ed and Matt gushing after they opened for them? PJ opened for THEM. not the other way around.
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
best vocal & frontband as well as bandmembers over all, lyrics, songs, name, spirit, thoughts, views, relationship to their fans.. I could continue for ages
can't think of a band that could match Pj, & defenatly not beatles and stones, HA!
get a grip mate look at your posts. deliberate baiting = troll
you have done it here. you do it there.
you may find your comments funny. I find them devoid of any fact or merit.
but the beatles and the stones have so many songs that are classics. many many many classics
they were pivitol in rock and roll
It's called taking this piss, clowning around.
Get a sense of humour perhaps.
If I were a troll I wouldn't do it for 3 years and so many posts, perhaps you miss my 'serious' posts....
BTW, it is divided, not devided....
Hahaha, first of all; calm down.
I can only assume that reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Did I say I give a damn what other people think? No, I don't CARE what they think, I was simply commenting ON what they think. When you're talking about two bands and who's "better", one of the topics you might discuss is cultural relevance. When you're debating something, shouldn't you be informed about the topic? The only thing "lame or ignorant" is showing up on a thread that's debating something and trivializing the argument by saying "I would much rather listen to PJ [so therefore they're better]". Is that really all you have to contribute? Are you twelve years old, or just an idiot?
Again, Pearl Jam is my favorite band but that's not what we're talking about. I'm sorry you can't have an objective discussion.