Pearl jam is better than the beetles and rolling stone.

luke.luke. Posts: 190
edited December 2011 in The Porch
I'm sick of everybody mentioning these two bands when it comes to 'greatest band ever' arguments. I get it, the beetles wrote let it be and shit- so what, pearl jam wrote black, yellow Ledbetter and even flow- boom that just happened. Fuck off losers, pearl win based on the fact that they have more talent. The end
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  • dwhite76dwhite76 Posts: 2,801
    well said....I guess :? I agree Pearl Jam is a better band and music makers that the Beatles and Stones. Its tough to judge Era's but if I had to go member by member PJ would win every spot.

    The one spot those bands may win is exploiting themselves better than PJ. They were the real careerist. :D
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  • Anyone would think we're on a PJ fan forum!! I can think of a couple of songs from both bands which are better than anything PJ have ever released.
  • luke.luke. Posts: 190
    I can't...
  • Tboz51Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    I've never been a fan of either of those bands and think "better" is in the eye of the beholder.

    But for me those two bands transitioned rock and roll.

    Pearl Jam is better, to me. Because they are my band. I'm not from the 50's or 60's or 70's... I'm speaking as a child of the 90's.
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  • Tboz51 wrote:
    I've never been a fan of either of those bands and think "better" is in the eye of the beholder.

    But for me those two bands transitioned rock and roll.

    Pearl Jam is better, to me. Because they are my band. I'm not from the 50's or 60's or 70's... I'm speaking as a child of the 90's.

    You're 39! That makes you a child of the 80's... ;)

    On topic : My parents' marriage was a mixed one - Dad = RS & Mom = B. I remember some epic fights, I'm scarred for life... :roll: :lol:

    PJ is better. Hands down.
  • They're better than the beetles. I've never heard anything by them.

    The Beatles on the other hand, are the greatest and most influential musical group of all time. They're untouchable.

    The RS are legendary, but not in the same league as the foursome from Liverpool.
    Yeh I've seen Pearl Jam, too. But I can't remember the dates.
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    luke. wrote:
    I'm sick of everybody mentioning these two bands when it comes to 'greatest band ever' arguments. I get it, the beetles wrote let it be and shit- so what, pearl jam wrote black, yellow Ledbetter and even flow- boom that just happened. Fuck off losers, pearl win based on the fact that they have more talent. The end

    I agree with you 100%!
    Beatles and Stones have never and will never do anything for me.

    If I want 60's I'll listen to The Doors, Velvet Underground, The Who, Beach Boys, Jefferson Airplane, Jimi Hendrix.
    But no band comes close to Pearl Jam, Nirvana perhaps but Pearl Jam can never be toppled for me.
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  • Hub.Hub. Posts: 1,990
    They're better than the beetles. I've never heard anything by them.

    The Beatles on the other hand, are the greatest and most influential musical group of all time. They're untouchable.

    The RS are legendary, but not in the same league as the foursome from Liverpool.

    I was about to do that one. :lol:
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    George Harrison is a poor man's Stone Gossard.
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  • abhijeetabhijeet Posts: 303
    George Harrison is a poor man's Stone Gossard.

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Another pointless thread, but that really made me laugh.
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    The Beatles really wanted to call themselves The Backspacers but did not want to risk a lawsuit from the members of Pearl Jam.
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  • boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    Fair enough if you don't like The Beetles :lol::lol::lol: or The Rolling Stones. No-one is forcing you too. But you have to acknowledge if neither band existed Pearl Jam and many bands that we all like wouldn't exist. The Beatles & Stones paved the way for all bands of the last 20-30 years. And they continue to have an influence.

    Ps. Gimme Shelter is one of the greatest songs of all time.
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  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    boyo79 wrote:
    Fair enough if you don't like The Beetles :lol::lol::lol: or The Rolling Stones. No-one is forcing you too. But you have to acknowledge if neither band existed Pearl Jam and many bands that we all like wouldn't exist. The Beatles & Stones paved the way for all bands of the last 20-30 years. And they continue to have an influence.

    There we go. :thumbup:
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  • merileyjrmerileyjr New York Posts: 22
    wow - I don't know if I even want to get into to this....... its like wine, you like what you like - it's fairly pointless to say either is better - just enjoy them.

    PS - would there be a PJ without the Beatles or Stones, or the Who or Neil Young???

    PPS - I would vote for PJ of course
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  • clashmanclashman Posts: 320
    if you ask me beatles or stones, i answer the who :D
    music and art is no competition. i love music including stones, beatles, pj.
  • Tboz51Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    Tboz51 wrote:
    I've never been a fan of either of those bands and think "better" is in the eye of the beholder.

    But for me those two bands transitioned rock and roll.

    Pearl Jam is better, to me. Because they are my band. I'm not from the 50's or 60's or 70's... I'm speaking as a child of the 90's.

    You're 39! That makes you a child of the 80's... ;)

    On topic : My parents' marriage was a mixed one - Dad = RS & Mom = B. I remember some epic fights, I'm scarred for life... :roll: :lol:

    PJ is better. Hands down.

    I shamefully hang my head now over the 80's. :lol:

    Spandex, hairspray, pleather, Jerry Curls.... Yikes!! :clap:
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    I won't bother. Pointless thread.
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  • I've never heard of the band the Beetles but I do know of this incredible band called the Beatles. Is Pearl Jam better than the Beatles? That like comparing an apple to a watermelon.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    A pointless thread...but for PJ to topple the Stones, Beatles and so on they might first need to get into the top 10 which they aren't. What the Beatles did in their relatively short time as a band can't be toppled. They wrote more music in half the time than PJ.
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  • bicyclejoebicyclejoe USA Posts: 1,203
    lukin2006 wrote:
    A pointless thread...but for PJ to topple the Stones, Beatles and so on they might first need to get into the top 10 which they aren't. What the Beatles did in their relatively short time as a band can't be toppled. They wrote more music in half the time than PJ.


    And, just as importantly, The Beatles sparked a cultural revolution.

    Pearl Jam is a phenomenal band, and they'd probably land somewhere in my top 10, but comparing them to The Beatles is ludicrous. Saying they're better is delusional.
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    bicyclejoe wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    A pointless thread...but for PJ to topple the Stones, Beatles and so on they might first need to get into the top 10 which they aren't. What the Beatles did in their relatively short time as a band can't be toppled. They wrote more music in half the time than PJ.


    And, just as importantly, The Beatles sparked a cultural revolution.

    Pearl Jam is a phenomenal band, and they'd probably land somewhere in my top 10, but comparing them to The Beatles is ludicrous. Saying they're better is delusional.

    Exactly...to list everything the Beatles accomplished for be a pretty long list. PJ is one of my favorite bands, but of active bands today i'm not even so sure their the best.
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  • jshinjshin Posts: 1,759
    luke. wrote:
    I'm sick of everybody mentioning these two bands when it comes to 'greatest band ever' arguments. I get it, the beetles wrote let it be and shit- so what, pearl jam wrote black, yellow Ledbetter and even flow- boom that just happened. Fuck off losers, pearl win based on the fact that they have more talent. The end


    Considering that I've been a die-hard PJ fan for almost twenty years, I guess I agree with you. Why be so pissy about it though? There are far better ways to get your opinion out there.

    p.s. What's this "Boom, that just happened", is that like "whoop there it is"?
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  • The people who say Pearl Jam are better obviously were born too late to know what the Beatles and The Stones meant in terms of music and how they actually changed music and the world, for that matter. Everybody listened to these groups in the 60's. An album release by either band was a major event. I don't think someone in their 20's or 30's can really understand that. They were the biggest groups of their time, and in that time music was a force for social change.
    Yes PJ are a great band, My favorite band of this era, and they are a better live band than the Beatles, who were a studio band for the last 5 years of their existence. The Stones are way past their prime and have been since about 1980 but in the years 1969 - 1973, they were the greatest live act ever, but the torch has passed through many bands since then and PJ now have it.
    George Harrison is no "Poor man's Stone Gossard", by any means. Harrison was a great, innovative guitarist who influenced many great players and was one of the best songwriters of all time, in a class with his bandmates Lennon and McCartney.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,743
    luke. wrote:
    I'm sick of everybody mentioning these two bands when it comes to 'greatest band ever' arguments. I get it, the beetles wrote let it be and shit- so what, pearl jam wrote black, yellow Ledbetter and even flow- boom that just happened. Fuck off losers, pearl win based on the fact that they have more talent. The end

    You have a lot to learn about The Beatles if you think Let It Be is either the best Beatles song or album.
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  • If you would ask the Pearl Jam members if they think they are a better band than the Beatles or the Stones, they would laugh at you and answer: 'not even close'.
    Pretty sure about this one.
    And that's because they love music and know about the history of rock music, and the influence of these two bands on a generation and on society.

    Pearl Jam is a great band, but clearly not as important as the Stones or the Beatles have been, and still are.
  • mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    dwhite76 wrote:
    well said....I guess :? I agree Pearl Jam is a better band and music makers that the Beatles and Stones. Its tough to judge Era's but if I had to go member by member PJ would win every spot.

    The one spot those bands may win is exploiting themselves better than PJ. They were the real careerist. :D


    yeah
    it was a little harsh even for me

    but i agree 100%
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  • love-boat-captainlove-boat-captain Essex. UK Posts: 476
    edited November 2011
    What a ridiculous post.

    Oh, and it's spelt Beatles, and I think there's 5 guys who might just disagree, they're called Ed, Mike, Stone, Jeff and Matt.
    Pearl Jam are by far my favourite band but this comparison should never be made, very childish.
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  • Nonsense. The fact that you feel the need to debate this 40+ years after the beatles & stones glory days proves the point...

    And also, does it really matter? Go get some fresh air ans smile!
  • F5AgainstOneF5AgainstOne New Hampshire, USA Posts: 1,462
    luke. wrote:
    I'm sick of everybody mentioning these two bands when it comes to 'greatest band ever' arguments. I get it, the beetles wrote let it be and shit- so what, pearl jam wrote black, yellow Ledbetter and even flow- boom that just happened. Fuck off losers, pearl win based on the fact that they have more talent. The end
    Pearl Jam might be better than "The Beetles", but no way in hell they are better than The Beatles.

    Sorry, I love both bands. I am a way bigger fan of PJ than I ever was for The Beatles.
    But, the fact is The Beatles were MUCH better innovators, song writers, risk takers, trend setters... the list goes on.
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  • F5AgainstOneF5AgainstOne New Hampshire, USA Posts: 1,462
    luke. wrote:
    I'm sick of everybody mentioning these two bands when it comes to 'greatest band ever' arguments. I get it, the beetles wrote let it be and shit- so what, pearl jam wrote black, yellow Ledbetter and even flow- boom that just happened. Fuck off losers, pearl win based on the fact that they have more talent. The end
    Pearl Jam might be better than "The Beetles", but no way in hell they are better than The Beatles.

    Sorry, I love both bands. I am a way bigger fan of PJ than I ever was for The Beatles.
    But, the fact is The Beatles were MUCH better innovators, song writers, risk takers, trend setters... the list goes on.

    Oh, and their 6 year career as a band has lasted 47+ years now.
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