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catefrances wrote:

so then you agree these womens stories have credence? that its not some big democratic stitch up to get rid of a strong candidate?

Well I never thought it was a Democratic conspiracy ... did you :?

Credence? yes of course ... I have stated what I believe. You must not read my posts.

I also believe as I have stated,
not knowing anything about a marriage of 43 years it is best not to judge the people in it.
How they maintain that marriage, what makes them life partners.

This is not a good reason for a candidate to pull out, if it was it would have been a great reason
for a President to resign ... and it was not.

pandora wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

pandora wrote:

He spoke, had some good ideas or at least those that his followers agreed with.
He is worthy of leading those who believe in him to another candidate.

The same thing could have been said of Hitler.

ha... Now Cain is Hitler... one track minds think alike perhaps

I guess he is backing Newt like I thought he would.

I didn't say Cain was Hitler. I said 'the same thing could have been said of Hitler.'

Byrnzie wrote:

pandora wrote:

He was not even in the public arena when these unfounded unproven
accusations were made.

What makes you so sure the accusations are unfounded?

I am not so sure but I as everyone do not know their personal situations.
And so I will not find the man guilty based on unproven accusations.

I wonder what this asshole was trying to hide?


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/de ... sachusetts

Mitt Romney's staff spent nearly $100,000 to hide records


Romney spent state funds to replace computers in his office at the end of his term as governor of Massachusetts in 2007


Guardian.co.uk, Monday 5 December 2011


Mitt Romney spent nearly $100,000 in state funds to replace computers in his office at the end of his term as governor of Massachusetts in 2007 as part of an unprecedented effort to keep his records secret, Reuters has learned.

The move during the final weeks of Romney's administration was legal but unusual for a departing governor, Massachusetts officials say.

The effort to purge the records was made a few months before Romney launched an unsuccessful campaign for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008. He is again competing for the party's nomination, this time to challenge Barack Obama for the presidency in 2012.

Five weeks before the first contests in Iowa, Romney has seen his position as frontrunner among Republican presidential candidates whittled away in the polls as rival Newt Gingrich, the former speaker of the House of Representatives, has gained ground.

When Romney left the governorship of Massachusetts, 11 of his aides bought the hard drives of their state-issued computers to keep for themselves. Also before he left office, the governor's staff had emails and other electronic communications by Romney's administration wiped from state servers, state officials say.

Those actions erased much of the internal documentation of Romney's four-year tenure as governor, which ended in January 2007. Precisely what information was erased is unclear.

Republican and Democratic opponents of Romney say the scrubbing of emails – and a claim by Romney that paper records of his governorship are not subject to public disclosure – hinder efforts to assess his performance as a politician and elected official.

As Massachusetts governor Romney worked with a Democrat-led state house to close a budget shortfall and signed a healthcare overhaul that required nearly all state residents to buy insurance or face penalties.

The Massachusetts healthcare law became a model for Obama's nationwide healthcare programme, enacted into law in 2010. As a presidential candidate, however, Romney has criticised Obama's plan as an overreach by the federal government.

Massachusetts officials say they have no basis to believe Romney's staff violated any state laws or policies in removing his administration's records.

They acknowledge, however, that state law on maintaining and disclosing official records is vague and has not been updated to deal with issues related to digital records and other modern technology.

Romney's spokesmen emphasise that he followed the law and precedent in deleting the emails, installing new computers in the governor's office and buying up hard drives.

However, Theresa Dolan, former director of administration for the governor's office, told Reuters that Romney's efforts to control or wipe out records from his governorship were unprecedented.

Dolan said that in her 23 years as an aide to successive governors "no one had ever inquired about or expressed the desire" to purchase their computer hard drives before Romney's tenure.

The cleanup of records by Romney's staff before his term ended included spending $205,000 for a three-year lease on new computers for the governor's office, according to official documents and state officials.

In signing the lease Romney aides broke an earlier three-year lease that provided the same number of computers for about half the cost: $108,000.

Lease documents obtained by Reuters under the state's freedom of information law indicate that the broken lease still had 18 months to run.
As a result of the change in leases the cost to the state for computers in the governor's office was an additional $97,000.

Andrea Saul, a spokeswoman for Romney's presidential campaign, referred questions on the computer leasing deal and records removal to state officials.
Last week Saul claimed that Deval Patrick, the present Massachusetts governor and a Democrat, was encouraging reports about Romney's records to cast the former governor as secretive. Patrick's office has not responded to that allegation.

The removal of digital records by Romney's staff, first reported by the Boston Globe, has sparked a wave of requests for state officials to release paper records from Romney's governorship that remain in the state archives.

Massachusetts officials are reviewing state law to determine whether the public should have access to those records.

The issue is clouded by a 1997 state court ruling that could be interpreted to mean that records of the Massachusetts governor are not subject to disclosure. Romney has asserted that his records are exempt from disclosure.

State officials and a longtime Romney adviser have acknowledged that before leaving office Romney asked state archives officials for permission to destroy certain paper records. It is unclear whether his office notified anyone from the state before destroying electronic records.

Officials have said the details of Romney's request to remove paper records, such as what specific documents he wanted to destroy, could be made public only in response to a request under the state's freedom of information law. Reuters has filed such a request.

catefrances wrote:

pandora wrote:

catefrances wrote:

so then you agree these womens stories have credence? that its not some big democratic stitch up to get rid of a strong candidate?

Well I never thought it was a Democratic conspiracy ... did you :?

Credence? yes of course ... I have stated what I believe. You must not read my posts.

I also believe as I have stated,
not knowing anything about a marriage of 43 years it is best not to judge the people in it.
How they maintain that marriage, what makes them life partners.

This is not a good reason for a candidate to pull out, if it was it would have been a great reason
for a President to resign ... and it was not.

of course i read your posts.. tis why im seeking clarity.


you say that these womens stories have credence and yet youve stated in previous posts:

There certainly has been little proof so far of terrible wrong doings that should keep Cain
form holding office.... just mud slinging.


Watching the news this am... I swear this is all fixed.



For me those kind of skeletons are irrelevant...
even if they did exist

really no proof just hearsay from not the best sources either at this point




I guess he was a threat to someone in this campaign
needed to throw some mud his way



I think he is speaking the truth... it was not an affair in his opinion
just like Clinton didn't think it was having sex.

He may still come out with a partial confession and move on and maybe even back up
in the polls. Like Clinton he has an enormous ego, not a bad thing for a President.



Basing fact on rumor and here say and accusations.
He was not even in the public arena when these unfounded unproven
accusations were made.





so if as youve agreed that these womens stories have credence, then how can you say its mudslinging, its all fixed, no proof... just hearsay. how it is now possible that there is any credence to these women's stories??? and then you say he may still come out with a partial confession... a confession about what???

do you not think mud slinging is based in some truth?

I do believe this is possible.

This where I give credence ... not to all the accusations nor to how you and others
may view what Mr Cain and his wife think and feel about the situation.

A partial confession would be what he has said already. :?
The thought had occurred to me he might confess as Clinton did to lies
and betrayal though, hoping for a similar outcome.

Again my stance... this is not sufficient wrong doing to be excluded from the race.
I view it as media bullying and probably more.

No one can judge a marriage of 43 years nor the reasons for infidelity of the partners
within the marriage if indeed there was. Most especially the media and American people.
It is personal business that happened outside of public office and had no business
in the race.