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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    pandora wrote:
    Cain is not a child molester :?
    ...
    Never came close to saying he was.
    I'm just questioning Herman Cain's message, 'Be Proud of Who You Are'... who is he talking to? Everyone?
    Well, if he is talking to everyone... that includes Meth Heads, Crack Whores, rapists, murderers, racists, gang members, thieving Wall Street douchebags. I'm just wondering if that is a good message to send to someone who is... for example, a child molestor.
    If he is just talking to his supporters... then, okay. But, even then... there has to be at least one person in that sampling that is... for example, an alcoholic. Should that person take that message to heart?
    Just wondering.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    the negativity of thought sometimes amazes me... I mean truly

    just came from the Christmas thread ... why so negative?

    One would hope everyone can find something about themselves to be proud of
    unless they are too negative to see it and only see the bad in the world

    this I believe the example Cain brings to the quote
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    pandora wrote:
    the negativity of thought sometimes amazes me... I mean truly

    just came from the Christmas thread ... why so negative?

    One would hope everyone can find something about themselves to be proud of
    unless they are too negative to see it and only see the bad in the world

    this I believe the example Cain brings to the quote
    ...
    Gotcha.
    So, in the spirit of positivity and love and all that jazz...
    The alcoholic who hears Cain's message could look on the positive side and... be proud he didn't crash his car into a van full of nuns on their way to Disneyland this morning... after leaving the bar.
    There... positivity.
    Thanx!
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    that would be some damn good luck indeed

    still not quite what I meant though :lol:
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    pandora wrote:
    that would be some damn good luck indeed

    still not quite what I meant though :lol:
    ...
    Ummmm... okay.
    The plundering Wall Street Hedge Fund Manager can be proud of himself for taking the life savings of 52,437 individuals and banking 72.3 million dollars for his firm... earning him a 12.1 million dollar bonus so he could fly his mistress to the Bahamas and write off the trip as a business expense. He is PROUD of who he are!
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Everyone has something to be proud of,
    is everyone as good a person as the next guy, maybe not.
    Should we prove a point by always using a negative?
    Can we stay on topic?

    This is not about child abusers, maniacs, or those who profit at the loss of others.

    This is about Herman Cain. This is about Democrats, Republicans, and Independents.

    As I have said pertaining to this subject .... 'be proud of who you are'
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,548
    Will he fess up to hi's wife or keep to hi's story that it was just a friendship were he helped her with $$$$ and paid for her plane fares to meet up with him ....How could he not think that all these skeletons would all come out :P
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    For me those kind of skeletons are irrelevant...
    even if they did exist

    really no proof just hearsay from not the best sources either at this point

    now if he was in office misbehavin that would be a different story
    and lying about it...

    wait the American people already accepted that....

    it's a slippery slope for those politicians and no one is squeaky clean

    I guess he was a threat to someone in this campaign
    needed to throw some mud his way
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,012
    cain making "major announcement" tomorrow....

    odds he bows out??
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Cain lives in Stockbridge, the suburb next to us, he's home now
    for the first time since the Atlanta woman's accusations. He is talking it over
    with his wife tonight.

    He is opening a new base of operation tomorrow here and will announce then
    his plans.

    His buds they interviewed think he will stay in, as does some other local people.

    I think he just might, I'm glad cause I don't think its right to be railroaded
    by rumors. I also thought he might admit something and stay in the running.
    Never know ... honesty might be commended, his wife forgiving of course.

    we'll see...
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,012
    pandora wrote:
    Cain lives in Stockbridge, the suburb next to us, he's home now
    for the first time since the Atlanta woman's accusations. He is talking it over
    with his wife tonight.

    He is opening a new base of operation tomorrow here and will announce then
    his plans.

    His buds they interviewed think he will stay in, as does some other local people.

    I think he just might, I'm glad cause I don't think its right to be railroaded
    by rumors. I also thought he might admit something and stay in the running.
    Never know ... honesty might be commended, his wife forgiving of course.

    we'll see...
    they said he has a long history of marital turmoil and infidelity. his wife is not going to let him stay in the race. you have to know that more accusations are going to come out the longer he stays in....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    I wonder who 'they' are?

    I had not heard that about a bad marriage
    one would think him being from right here there would be news on that

    the consensus here is people aren't giving much credit to the 13 year affair lady
    and in local interviews, she is very weak, definitely not credible, and really fudged
    on the monetary gain questions that her accusations will bring her.

    Local news got phone call records and she was certainly bugging him by phone and text
    and him hardly returning the calls with just minutes totaling in the 17 calls.

    I think he is speaking the truth... it was not an affair in his opinion
    just like Clinton didn't think it was having sex.

    He may still come out with a partial confession and move on and maybe even back up
    in the polls. Like Clinton he has an enormous ego, not a bad thing for a President.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,012
    pandora wrote:
    I wonder who 'they' are?

    I had not heard that about a bad marriage
    one would think him being from right here there would be news on that

    the consensus here is people aren't giving much credit to the 13 year affair lady
    and in local interviews, she is very weak, definitely not credible, and really fudged
    on the monetary gain questions that her accusations will bring her.

    Local news got phone call records and she was certainly bugging him by phone and text
    and him hardly returning the calls with just minutes totaling in the 17 calls.

    I think he is speaking the truth... it was not an affair in his opinion
    just like Clinton didn't think it was having sex.

    He may still come out with a partial confession and move on and maybe even back up
    in the polls. Like Clinton he has an enormous ego, not a bad thing for a President.


    i don't care how weak or lacking in credibility she is. her and the two the nra paid off and the first one have done heavy damage to his campaign. the longer he stays in, the more is going to come out. he knows this. you should too...

    don't even compare him to clinton. this man has no earthly business being the president. i hope that he gets to debate obama. obama would destroy him so badly it would be black on black crime...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,012
    this is how you get yourself knocked out of a presidential campaign...or pulled out of it by the ear by your wife :lol:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/0 ... 25626.html

    Herman & Gloria Cain's Problems Go Way Back: Report

    As Herman Cain headed home on Friday to Georgia to face his wife for the first time since Ginger White alleged an affair with him, a new report surfaced stories of the couple having deep marital unrest long before Cain's presidential campaign was rocked by allegations of sexual harassment.

    "It never felt like a real marriage when I was around them," someone close to the family told the Daily Beast. "Mostly he was always gone and his wife seemed to be OK with it. Not being together seemed the norm for their marriage, and Gloria didn't seem to mind. His kids didn’t seem to mind either."

    The Cains have been married for 43 years. They have two sons and three grandchildren. Sources told the Daily Beast that Cain's attraction to other women has always been a strain, and the couple has even lived apart during periods of their marriage.

    Cain previously told HuffPost that Gloria supported him throughout the sexual harassment allegations that surfaced last month, but he has acknowledged that his wife never knew about his friendship with Ginger White or that he was giving her money and gifts over the years. He insists their relationship was not sexual. White has apologized to Gloria for having sex with Cain.

    Gloria told FOX News last month that the sexual harassment charges other women have leveled against her husband don't ring true because he "totally respects women."

    But a campaign worker told the Daily Beast that she was pressured to do the interview and won't defend her husband again against Ginger White's story.

    "She doesn't want to be forced to do that again because she knows he's had girlfriends for many years," the source said. "She just looked the other way. But if he won't get out of the race, she may have to."

    In light of the Ginger White allegations, Cain is reassessing his candidacy and his conversation with his wife Friday may be pivotal in his decision whether to remain in the race.

    "It is having a toll and anybody would do the same thing," he told FOX News.

    Meanwhile, "Women For Herman Cain" launched Friday and Gloria is listed as the group's National Chairperson. The site uses an image of several ethnically diverse women giving the thumbs up; these are not Cain supporters but models for a stock photo. Actual female supporters have posted words of encouragement for the couple and harsh attacks against Cain's accusers. Here are some words from Barbara Dayan of Nipomo, Calif.:

    Dear Mrs. Cain Don't pay attention to these pathetic husbandless women who are jealous of women like you in happy long-term marriages. These vindictive women can't find a husband or keep one. They are like stalkers who try to latch on to any man who shows a bit of kindness or attention to them. When these unstable women come out of the woodwork to make accusations about Herman just say, "Honey, get a life, I believe my husband." We want you to be our First Lady Mrs. Cain!
    The initiative's press release follows:

    "Women For Cain" is an online national fellowship of women dedicated to helping elect Herman Cain as the next President of the United States.

    Mr. Cain has been a strong advocate for women throughout his lifetime, defending and promoting the issues of quality health care, family, education, equality in the workplace and many other concerns so important to American women.


    Gloria Cain is the National Chairperson for "Women for Cain" and is the very special woman who Mr. Cain devoted his life to many years ago. Mr. Cain and Gloria celebrated their 43rd wedding anniversary earlier this year. The couple has two children and three grandchildren and a legacy of family, friends, and community and church involvement.



    "Women For Cain" was formed to inspire a national women's alliance in support of Herman Cain 2012 and Friends of Herman Cain. Please join our conversation to learn of volunteer opportunities and to be informed of issues and events surrounding the Herman Cain campaign.



    Thank you for your support. We welcome your thoughts and encouragement for Mr. Cain. We also welcome your involvement in our effort to renew America with the common-sense solutions and principled leadership that Mr. Cain provides. Join us as we work to bring true opportunity and prosperity to all Americans.

    On Oct. 31 Politico broke the news that two women had filed sexual harassment claims against Herman Cain when he ran the National Restaurant Association 20 years ago. At the time the story was published the women wished to remain anonymous, but one, Karen Kraushaar, came forward on Nov. 8, the day after a third woman, Sharon Bialek, held a press conference alleging she was sexually harassed by Cain.



    Kraushaar, a Treasury Department spokeswoman, was an employee at the National Restaurant Association during the time Cain was head of the group. She did not discuss the details of the claim, but her attorney described the story Bialek told as familiar. "I'm not authorized to give specifics, but the conduct is similar and it's corroborating evidence for the complaint my client filed." Kraushaar received a settlement of about $45,000.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,319
    pandora wrote:
    I wonder who 'they' are?

    I had not heard that about a bad marriage
    one would think him being from right here there would be news on that

    the consensus here is people aren't giving much credit to the 13 year affair lady
    and in local interviews, she is very weak, definitely not credible, and really fudged
    on the monetary gain questions that her accusations will bring her.

    Local news got phone call records and she was certainly bugging him by phone and text
    and him hardly returning the calls with just minutes totaling in the 17 calls.

    I think he is speaking the truth... it was not an affair in his opinion
    just like Clinton didn't think it was having sex.

    He may still come out with a partial confession and move on and maybe even back up
    in the polls. Like Clinton he has an enormous ego, not a bad thing for a President.
    Cains FIRST response was he was helping her find a job. Much later his SECOND response was he was helping her financially with bills etc. FOR 13 YRS. You know does that? A Sugar Daddy. Thats who. Whats a Sugar Daddy get in return? I think you can answer that one for yourself.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,319
    Cosmo wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    the negativity of thought sometimes amazes me... I mean truly

    just came from the Christmas thread ... why so negative?

    One would hope everyone can find something about themselves to be proud of
    unless they are too negative to see it and only see the bad in the world

    this I believe the example Cain brings to the quote
    ...
    Gotcha.
    So, in the spirit of positivity and love and all that jazz...
    The alcoholic who hears Cain's message could look on the positive side and... be proud he didn't crash his car into a van full of nuns on their way to Disneyland this morning... after leaving the bar.
    There... positivity.
    Thanx!
    No the alcohoic is wondering where the next drink comes from. THEN we wonder where the F'n car is parked or why its wrapped around the tree.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • What kind of man has a 13 year friendship that he doesn't tell his wife about?
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    the negativity of thought sometimes amazes me... I mean truly

    just came from the Christmas thread ... why so negative?

    One would hope everyone can find something about themselves to be proud of
    unless they are too negative to see it and only see the bad in the world

    this I believe the example Cain brings to the quote
    ...
    Gotcha.
    So, in the spirit of positivity and love and all that jazz...
    The alcoholic who hears Cain's message could look on the positive side and... be proud he didn't crash his car into a van full of nuns on their way to Disneyland this morning... after leaving the bar.
    There... positivity.
    Thanx!
    No the alcohoic is wondering where the next drink comes from. THEN we wonder where the F'n car is parked or why its wrapped around the tree.
    I was, after thinkning about this a bit, also amazed by the negative generalization towards alcoholics...
    that it was insinuated they have nothing to be proud of :?
    and that they drink and drive, neither of which is necessarily true.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    What kind of man has a 13 year friendship that he doesn't tell his wife about?
    she knew this is what the lady friend has said
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    mickeyrat wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I wonder who 'they' are?

    I had not heard that about a bad marriage
    one would think him being from right here there would be news on that

    the consensus here is people aren't giving much credit to the 13 year affair lady
    and in local interviews, she is very weak, definitely not credible, and really fudged
    on the monetary gain questions that her accusations will bring her.

    Local news got phone call records and she was certainly bugging him by phone and text
    and him hardly returning the calls with just minutes totaling in the 17 calls.

    I think he is speaking the truth... it was not an affair in his opinion
    just like Clinton didn't think it was having sex.

    He may still come out with a partial confession and move on and maybe even back up
    in the polls. Like Clinton he has an enormous ego, not a bad thing for a President.
    Cains FIRST response was he was helping her find a job. Much later his SECOND response was he was helping her financially with bills etc. FOR 13 YRS. You know does that? A Sugar Daddy. Thats who. Whats a Sugar Daddy get in return? I think you can answer that one for yourself.

    Both responses were true

    and as I have said from proof that we have seen, the phone call records, she was pursuing him
    far more than he her. And I believe he does not think of it as an affair because there was
    no romance/love ... he has claimed no sex which may be a down right lie.

    Like Clinton ... words carefully chosen ... but eventually a lie emerges.

    We will see if she can prove infidelity ... if he stays in the race...
    if he admits guilt

    to me none of this is a deciding factor as to him being in office.