THE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES...

looks like turf toe will keep the kolber out this week. really hope he's back for the birds game. that will be fun.

have you seen any of these "great sports debate from the vault" episodes on comcast? loved them as a kid. cataldi sucked even 20 years ago. funny to hear all these strong opinions on things that have already been played out though.

looks like the birds are talking contract extension with shady. love it...

pjhawks wrote:

jamminpearls wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

link to story in the Sunday Inquirer that basically says the same thing about how defenses aren't being designed to stop McCoy that i said about a month ago and you guys killed me for it.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eag ... gence.html

Give it up dude!!!

dude you and juggler ripped me for saying exactly what this guy is saying in the article. you could at least acknowledge i was correct in saying the defenses are not being designed to stop mccoy. is that so hard to do? or are you guys so stubborn you can't admit that?

i have no feel for this Bears game. i was very confident going into the Cowboys game but i can't get a read on this game. for some reason i feel a close low scoring (for the eagles) kind of game. maybe like 19-13 or something.

i ripped you for wanting to throw the ball 90% of the time against a defense that was trying to stop the pass (subsequently everyone who has chimed in on the conversation has said the same thing). you take what the defense gives you.

this offense has so many ways to beat teams. it is idiotic to want to be as one dimensional as you want to be...especially when you've got one of the best rb's in the game in your backfield. is 80% still conservative for you (we're 8 weeks in and no team is even close to those numbers --nfl teams, not arena league teams)

lesean mccoy is an absolute beast dude.


and vick's been great. if it were up to you kolb would still be here.

pjhawks wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

i ripped you for wanting to throw the ball 90% of the time against a defense that was trying to stop the pass (subsequently everyone who has chimed in on the conversation has said the same thing). you take what the defense gives you.

this offense has so many ways to beat teams. it is idiotic to want to be as one dimensional as you want to be...especially when you've got one of the best rb's in the game in your backfield. is 80% still conservative for you (we're 8 weeks in and no team is even close to those numbers --nfl teams, not arena league teams)

lesean mccoy is an absolute beast dude.


and vick's been great. if it were up to you kolb would still be here.

1st off it was 80%. you are like fixer making up your own version of prior comments. and that i understand being ripped about since it's unconventional thinking on my part. but you absolutely ripped me and even mocked me for talking about how the defenses defend the eagles and mccoy. all i said a month ago is exactly what has happened and will continue to happen with how this team is defended. and yet you can't even acknowledge i am right.

as for vick he's been good and is a hell of a weapon, but he still is a fucking scumbag and i'd prefer not to have to cheer for him. sue me for that. but i never said i wanted Kolb over him. I said we shouldn't have traded Kolb because why ever trade a decent to good NFL QB? and i still believe that. by 1000% percent i'd rather have Kolb than vince young and mike kafka behind vick. selective memory by you on that one.

you said "80% was conservative." that's not a direct quote? so naturally one would assume that somewhere around 90% was just right for you. is it more like 89%? :?

and no that's not exactly what i ripped you for. i disagreed that teams were only concerned with the pass. i said the beauty of this offense was that they had to account for so many different things. which is why it's ridiculous to want to throw it over 80% of the time. and it's a passing league anyway--though not nearly to the extent to which you desperately want to believe it is. but, as i've tried telling you, most teams throw it around 60% of the time. have been for a while now. so naturally defenses will be more inclined to defend against the pass first league wide--not just against the eagles....but that brings me back to why it's good to have a nice amount of balance to your attack.

you also were arguing that desean jackson was the indisputable best player on the team at the time. and you were saying that defense tried to account for brian westbrook more than lesean mccoy. you said desean jackson was the 2nd biggest threat to score a touchdown besides brian westbrook in your lifetime. this is odd because your other mantra this year has been "run for first downs, throw for touch downs." the most td's westbrook scored in a season was 14. shady has 10 right now with 8 games left to play.

just seems like you always try to downplay the success the eagles and shady have had on the ground this year. i don't understand that. just appreciate what they have in shady.

if vick goes down the season's over anyway. they wouldn't go anywhere with kolb under center. he's been pretty bad so far this year. drc + a 2nd round pick = all. day. long.

pjhawks wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

1st off it was 80%. you are like fixer making up your own version of prior comments. and that i understand being ripped about since it's unconventional thinking on my part. but you absolutely ripped me and even mocked me for talking about how the defenses defend the eagles and mccoy. all i said a month ago is exactly what has happened and will continue to happen with how this team is defended. and yet you can't even acknowledge i am right.

as for vick he's been good and is a hell of a weapon, but he still is a fucking scumbag and i'd prefer not to have to cheer for him. sue me for that. but i never said i wanted Kolb over him. I said we shouldn't have traded Kolb because why ever trade a decent to good NFL QB? and i still believe that. by 1000% percent i'd rather have Kolb than vince young and mike kafka behind vick. selective memory by you on that one.

you said "80% was conservative." that's not a direct quote? so naturally one would assume that somewhere around 90% was just right for you. is it more like 89%? :?

and no that's not exactly what i ripped you for. i disagreed that teams were only concerned with the pass. i said the beauty of this offense was that they had to account for so many different things. which is why it's ridiculous to want to throw it over 80% of the time. and it's a passing league anyway--though not nearly to the extent to which you desperately want to believe it is. but, as i've tried telling you, most teams throw it around 60% of the time. have been for a while now. so naturally defenses will be more inclined to defend against the pass first league wide--not just against the eagles....but that brings me back to why it's good to have a nice amount of balance to your attack.

you also were arguing that desean jackson was the indisputable best player on the team at the time. and you were saying that defense tried to account for brian westbrook more than lesean mccoy. you said desean jackson was the 2nd biggest threat to score a touchdown besides brian westbrook in your lifetime. this is odd because your other mantra this year has been "run for first downs, throw for touch downs." the most td's westbrook scored in a season was 14. shady has 10 right now with 8 games left to play.

just seems like you always try to downplay the success the eagles and shady have had on the ground this year. i don't understand that. just appreciate what they have in shady.

if vick goes down the season's over anyway. they wouldn't go anywhere with kolb under center. he's been pretty bad so far this year. drc + a 2nd round pick = all. day. long.

yes that is a direct quote. so show me where in that quote i said 90%? never said it dude so stop using the 90% number. it's not accurate at all.

not trying to downplay mccoy's contributions. i made comments that i got ripped for and i stand by them because they were correct. that's all. and i still believe jackson is a bigger weapon.

you can't deny that the Eagles 4th quarter against Atlanta they would have been better off with Kolb than Kafka and would have had a much higher chance to win the game (and they almost won the game anyway). and juggler if/when the eagles come up one game short of the playoffs that quarter where we had to play a 3rd string never took a snap from center in the league is going to end up being the deciding factor.

so if 80% is conservative, what number is just right? 85%? 89%?

if you're talking about how the defense is playing, then, you're wrong about wanting to throw that much against a defense that you think is designed to stop that very thing. that's why the eagles' approach against dallas worked so well.

yes, i think kolb would have been a better option than our 3rd string quarterback. safe to say there are 32 back up quarterbacks (including our own who was injured then) who would have given us a better chance than our 3rd string quarterback. he's 3rd string for a reason. that's a ridiculous argument.

big game tonight mr hawks. i am leaning towards a double digit victory...