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  • The Juggler
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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story?id ... ppable-nfl

    good read about how well vick is playing right now...especially against the blitz.
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  • davidtrios
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    30-13 bad guys
  • The Fixer
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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story?id=7195519&_slug_=with-michael-vick-learning-prepare-adjust-eagles-unstoppable-nfl

    good read about how well vick is playing right now...especially against the blitz.

    I read this earlier. I think dilfer does a great job as an analyst. I loved this paragraph...summed things up perfectly. The last sentence is why the eagles will never win with this guy.


    But since then, based on both Vick's play and his words, it looks to me like the light bulb has come on. It's as if he's realizing something that may sound crude, but sort of defines where he is. He has to quit being a butcher and become a surgeon. It has to be about preparation instead of instinct, caution instead of winging it and trusting his athleticism as a backup plan instead of his "go to." To be a surgeon, it has to be mind over body.
  • The Juggler
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    The Fixer wrote:
    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story?id=7195519&_slug_=with-michael-vick-learning-prepare-adjust-eagles-unstoppable-nfl

    good read about how well vick is playing right now...especially against the blitz.

    I read this earlier. I think dilfer does a great job as an analyst. I loved this paragraph...summed things up perfectly. The last sentence is why the eagles will never win with this guy.


    But since then, based on both Vick's play and his words, it looks to me like the light bulb has come on. It's as if he's realizing something that may sound crude, but sort of defines where he is. He has to quit being a butcher and become a surgeon. It has to be about preparation instead of instinct, caution instead of winging it and trusting his athleticism as a backup plan instead of his "go to." To be a surgeon, it has to be mind over body.

    well the point of dilfer's article is that he is doing those things very well. here are very next 2 paragraphs:
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    Just watch the tape from the Washington game. On a late drive, he saw the linebacker front set to blitz and checked to a perimeter run right for LeSean McCoy. He did this again in the Cowboys game, foiling the Dallas plan again and again. It's important to see Vick continue to check into plays that utilize the talent around him, not his own legs. It's important for a guy who throws 100 mph to find a changeup. He's the most athletic player to ever play the position, but the fact is, defenses would rather see Vick run. It makes sense -- he's hitting 67.2 percent of his passes from the pocket, among the best in the league.

    Which leads to the last adjustment he seems to be making: he's running selectively. For one thing, he knows he'll never last if he wants to run. Let's face it: He's not a big guy. Secondly, he might also see that he's not a good thrower in the play after he scrambles. The tape on this doesn't lie. When Vick takes off, he often makes poor decisions on the next throw; he gets tired, he becomes erratic and his throws get short.

    With these adjustments, Vick doesn't just become better, the whole team does.

    let's hope he continues to play as well as he has
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  • The Fixer
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    The Fixer wrote:
    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story?id=7195519&_slug_=with-michael-vick-learning-prepare-adjust-eagles-unstoppable-nfl

    good read about how well vick is playing right now...especially against the blitz.

    I read this earlier. I think dilfer does a great job as an analyst. I loved this paragraph...summed things up perfectly. The last sentence is why the eagles will never win with this guy.


    But since then, based on both Vick's play and his words, it looks to me like the light bulb has come on. It's as if he's realizing something that may sound crude, but sort of defines where he is. He has to quit being a butcher and become a surgeon. It has to be about preparation instead of instinct, caution instead of winging it and trusting his athleticism as a backup plan instead of his "go to." To be a surgeon, it has to be mind over body.

    well the point of dilfer's article is that he is doing those things very well. here are very next 2 paragraphs:
    ----
    Just watch the tape from the Washington game. On a late drive, he saw the linebacker front set to blitz and checked to a perimeter run right for LeSean McCoy. He did this again in the Cowboys game, foiling the Dallas plan again and again. It's important to see Vick continue to check into plays that utilize the talent around him, not his own legs. It's important for a guy who throws 100 mph to find a changeup. He's the most athletic player to ever play the position, but the fact is, defenses would rather see Vick run. It makes sense -- he's hitting 67.2 percent of his passes from the pocket, among the best in the league.

    Which leads to the last adjustment he seems to be making: he's running selectively. For one thing, he knows he'll never last if he wants to run. Let's face it: He's not a big guy. Secondly, he might also see that he's not a good thrower in the play after he scrambles. The tape on this doesn't lie. When Vick takes off, he often makes poor decisions on the next throw; he gets tired, he becomes erratic and his throws get short.

    With these adjustments, Vick doesn't just become better, the whole team does.

    let's hope he continues to play as well as he has

    and the beginning of the article explains how awful he was down the stretch last year.

    I feel like it's the same stuff with vick. he's changing, he's evolving, he's a different QB than he used to be, blah, blah, blah. then he reverts to what he is, which isn't a good qb.

    I hope he proves me wrong. I just think he is what he is at this point
  • The Juggler
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    The Fixer wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    well the point of dilfer's article is that he is doing those things very well. here are very next 2 paragraphs:
    ----
    Just watch the tape from the Washington game. On a late drive, he saw the linebacker front set to blitz and checked to a perimeter run right for LeSean McCoy. He did this again in the Cowboys game, foiling the Dallas plan again and again. It's important to see Vick continue to check into plays that utilize the talent around him, not his own legs. It's important for a guy who throws 100 mph to find a changeup. He's the most athletic player to ever play the position, but the fact is, defenses would rather see Vick run. It makes sense -- he's hitting 67.2 percent of his passes from the pocket, among the best in the league.

    Which leads to the last adjustment he seems to be making: he's running selectively. For one thing, he knows he'll never last if he wants to run. Let's face it: He's not a big guy. Secondly, he might also see that he's not a good thrower in the play after he scrambles. The tape on this doesn't lie. When Vick takes off, he often makes poor decisions on the next throw; he gets tired, he becomes erratic and his throws get short.

    With these adjustments, Vick doesn't just become better, the whole team does.

    let's hope he continues to play as well as he has

    and the beginning of the article explains how awful he was down the stretch last year.

    I feel like it's the same stuff with vick. he's changing, he's evolving, he's a different QB than he used to be, blah, blah, blah. then he reverts to what he is, which isn't a good qb.

    I hope he proves me wrong. I just think he is what he is at this point

    dilfer knows his stuff. its like i said. vick was the one guy who really needed the ota's and a full training camp coming into his first year as the starter. so the slow start was expected. he's playing real well now. hopefully he keeps it up and continues playing like one of the better qb's in the league.

    go birds.
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  • 27-17 Birds!!!! I feel a Def TD coming tonight and a Maclin TD as well.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    27-17 Birds!!!! I feel a Def TD coming tonight and a Maclin TD as well.


    hmnn instant replay to see if your're right
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    That was one ugly half of football. penalties, turnovers, bad passes, dropped balls. can't play much worse than that (hopefully).
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,179
    The Fixer wrote:
    That was one ugly half of football. penalties, turnovers, bad passes, dropped balls. can't play much worse than that (hopefully).

    yeah the Jackson fumble before the half hurt, but looking good now :)
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    Good thing we have all these awesome cornerbacks. :roll:
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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,179
    :roll: we need a miracle now to make the playoffs
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  • cowboypjfan
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    Let's go Flyers..
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,358
    An elite QB would've gotten the job done there.
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  • cowboypjfan
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    this team doesn't look very good.

    :lol:
  • An elite QB would've gotten the job done there.
    Gotta do a better job there

    Have to put guys in better position to make plays
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  • The Fixer
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    That was horrendous. Everyone wearing a green jersey tonight should be embarrassed (except mccoy and celek).

    Bears thoroughly outplayed the eagles (especially the bears O-line). They deserved to win. Eagles were lucky the score wasn't worse.

    I am looking forward to seeing more of Jarrett
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,179
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  • The Fixer
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    An elite QB would've gotten the job done there.

    He's just not a good QB
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