Hey PJ, WTF is this brain-dead policy?

ndv180
ndv180 Posts: 80
edited May 2006 in Given To Fly (live)
Per order of the band - No Binoculars!

I tried to enter the gig around 7PM in the event that there was going to be a preset. After getting my ticket scanned and as they're about to pat me down, I'm told I can't enter with my binoculars. I asked where on the ticket does it say that and they told me that it was not their policy, but Pearl Jam's. I was told this by several other event staff personnel.

My two options where to throw them in the trash or walk the mile and a half (each way) to where I parked and put them back in the car (these were a little too large to hide in my pants). I did the latter, all the while seething at what was happening and I almost got hit by a car near Fanuiel Hall (the band would've been named in the lawsuit). I couldn't wrap my brain around why such a policy was in place and why it would be at the directive of the band. I'm still totally perplexed by it. I'd really like to know the reasoning behind this policy. Until then, I don't know when I'll be able to put this behind me. It can't be for safety because all it did was make me a danger to society for a while.
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  • Wilds
    Wilds Posts: 4,329
    That totally sucks.....
  • LeilaMoonTurtle
    LeilaMoonTurtle Posts: 1,418
    Was not a prob at
    albany
    hartford
    chi 1 & 2

    ndv180 wrote:
    Per order of the band - No Binoculars!

    I tried to enter the gig around 7PM in the event that there was going to be a preset. After getting my ticket scanned and as they're about to pat me down, I'm told I can't enter with my binoculars. I asked where on the ticket does it say that and they told me that it was not their policy, but Pearl Jam's. I was told this by several other event staff personnel.

    My two options where to throw them in the trash or walk the mile and a half (each way) to where I parked and put them back in the car (these were a little too large to hide in my pants). I did the latter, all the while seething at what was happening and I almost got hit by a car near Fanuiel Hall (the band would've been named in the lawsuit). I couldn't wrap my brain around why such a policy was in place and why it would be at the directive of the band. I'm still totally perplexed by it. I'd really like to know the reasoning behind this policy. Until then, I don't know when I'll be able to put this behind me. It can't be for safety because all it did was make me a danger to society for a while.
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  • Abner11
    Abner11 Posts: 67
    I overheard the lobby security guy at night I (right at the top of the escalators, but before you actually got your ticket scanned) say this when asked by someone trying to get a small pair of binoculars in: "I guess they don't want people swinging them around because I guess some knucklehead swinging binoculars around clocked somebody in the face ." I have no idea where this alleged incident occurred, or how truthful it was, only stating what I heard.
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  • Atomic Punk
    Atomic Punk Posts: 2,941
    should have asked to see the head of Pearl Jam's security staff to verify that what they were feeding you was true...
  • BackwardsBlues1
    BackwardsBlues1 Posts: 152
    I saw lots of people with binoculars.

    i doubt it was the band's policy- on stuff like that, you'll see the venue blaming the band and the band blaming the venue (not just pearl jam, I mean in general).
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    I suspect that some venues blame their policies on the band thinking that we'll be less likely to argue with them. In Detroit I wasn't allowed to bring in my Ben Harper messenger bag because of a "band" policy regarding purses or bags over a certain size. Never mind that I've been to 5 previous shows over two years with that very same bag and it wasn't a problem anywhere else.
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  • ndv180
    ndv180 Posts: 80
    Atomic Punk wrote:
    should have asked to see the head of Pearl Jam's security staff to verify that what they were feeding you was true...

    Didn't think of that (not that they would've went and got them anyway). I think they were telling me the truth (not that I wasn't suspicious). There were several who told me the same thing and they weren't near each other (including the guy at the bottom of the escalator. I accused him of being on crack.).
  • ndv180
    ndv180 Posts: 80
    BackwardsBlues1 wrote:
    I saw lots of people with binoculars.

    i doubt it was the band's policy- on stuff like that, you'll see the venue blaming the band and the band blaming the venue (not just pearl jam, I mean in general).

    If they were small enough, I would've just stuffed them in my pants and went to another entrance (they put special mark on my ticket for re-entry).

    Probably not going to happen, but I'd like to see a representative from the band come into this thread and either state that it is not their policy or provide a reason for the policy.
  • PearlJamBob
    PearlJamBob Posts: 77
    that sucks, but your comment about naming the band in the lawsuit is ridiculous
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  • ndv180
    ndv180 Posts: 80
    PearlJamBob wrote:
    that sucks, but your comment about naming the band in the lawsuit is ridiculous

    That was completely hypothetical if I'd gotten hit by that car on my way to my own car.
  • ndv180
    ndv180 Posts: 80
    Anybody that thinks this can't possibly be a policy of the band, I suggest you check out post #113 in the "policies for the 2006 tour" sticky thread in the "Porch" forum.
  • NothinGBetteRPJMaN
    NothinGBetteRPJMaN Posts: 530
    I brought binocculars in no problem. I even showed it to the security guy beacuse he asked me what it was in my pocket.
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  • ACCBootlegGoddess
    ACCBootlegGoddess Posts: 4,318
    BackwardsBlues1 wrote:
    I saw lots of people with binoculars.

    i doubt it was the band's policy- on stuff like that, you'll see the venue blaming the band and the band blaming the venue (not just pearl jam, I mean in general).


    Go see Tims (Rubysdad) camera policy thread on the Porch (its a sticky). It says right there no Binoculars. Dunno why that is, but its the bands wishes.
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  • whateverman
    whateverman Posts: 71
    PearlJamBob wrote:
    that sucks, but your comment about naming the band in the lawsuit is ridiculous
    THATS NO SHIT
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  • ndv180
    ndv180 Posts: 80
    ACCBootlegGoddess wrote:
    Go see Tims (Rubysdad) camera policy thread on the Porch (its a sticky). It says right there no Binoculars. Dunno why that is, but its the bands wishes.


    If you look at post #113 in the thread you'll see that it was just added to the list yesterday (2 days after I was not allowed to bring them in).

    I think it certainly deserves an explanation as to why it is now a policy.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PearlJamBob
    that sucks, but your comment about naming the band in the lawsuit is ridiculous

    With regards to this, all I meant was that if I got hit by a car because I was in a place I never would've been because of a policy that was never posted anywhere and probably never enforced at any ticketed event in the history of ticketed events, I would've had to have named the band in any hypothetical lawsuit. It's not rocket surgery.
  • duggro
    duggro Posts: 1,343
    i hate the fact that the first thing people think of in accidents is a law suit

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  • NeilJam
    NeilJam Posts: 1,191
    Abner11 wrote:
    I overheard the lobby security guy at night I (right at the top of the escalators, but before you actually got your ticket scanned) say this when asked by someone trying to get a small pair of binoculars in: "I guess they don't want people swinging them around because I guess some knucklehead swinging binoculars around clocked somebody in the face ." I have no idea where this alleged incident occurred, or how truthful it was, only stating what I heard.

    This is the story I was given in Cleveland when they would not let me take my binoculars in. They didn't even care that there was no strap on them which would make swinging them around impossible to do.

    Nice to see that the policy has been posted an entire week after it was put into place.
  • Spilt Tincture
    Spilt Tincture Posts: 25
    get 20,000 people together and you get idiots who can make anything a weapon. Chances are you are not but other people are, especially now with all the meatheads and juicemonkeys coming back to the shows beacause Pj is "popular" again. Anyways you are at a Rock Concert not a bird watching sanctuary.

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  • mojamom
    mojamom Posts: 8
    ndv180 wrote:
    Per order of the band - No Binoculars!

    I tried to enter the gig around 7PM in the event that there was going to be a preset. After getting my ticket scanned and as they're about to pat me down, I'm told I can't enter with my binoculars. I asked where on the ticket does it say that and they told me that it was not their policy, but Pearl Jam's. I was told this by several other event staff personnel.

    My two options where to throw them in the trash or walk the mile and a half (each way) to where I parked and put them back in the car (these were a little too large to hide in my pants). I did the latter, all the while seething at what was happening and I almost got hit by a car near Fanuiel Hall (the band would've been named in the lawsuit). I couldn't wrap my brain around why such a policy was in place and why it would be at the directive of the band. I'm still totally perplexed by it. I'd really like to know the reasoning behind this policy. Until then, I don't know when I'll be able to put this behind me. It can't be for safety because all it did was make me a danger to society for a while.

    Option #3: Choose a hiding spot and stash them like my friend did. We picked them up after the show...
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  • TooBigForHisSize
    TooBigForHisSize Posts: 5
    That policy is the most retarded thing I've ever heard. I brought binoculars to Hartford and Boston and no one was killed.

    I'm also legally blind. Have they considered that factor?

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