Hey PJ, WTF is this brain-dead policy?
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Per order of the band - No Binoculars!
I tried to enter the gig around 7PM in the event that there was going to be a preset. After getting my ticket scanned and as they're about to pat me down, I'm told I can't enter with my binoculars. I asked where on the ticket does it say that and they told me that it was not their policy, but Pearl Jam's. I was told this by several other event staff personnel.
My two options where to throw them in the trash or walk the mile and a half (each way) to where I parked and put them back in the car (these were a little too large to hide in my pants). I did the latter, all the while seething at what was happening and I almost got hit by a car near Fanuiel Hall (the band would've been named in the lawsuit). I couldn't wrap my brain around why such a policy was in place and why it would be at the directive of the band. I'm still totally perplexed by it. I'd really like to know the reasoning behind this policy. Until then, I don't know when I'll be able to put this behind me. It can't be for safety because all it did was make me a danger to society for a while.
I tried to enter the gig around 7PM in the event that there was going to be a preset. After getting my ticket scanned and as they're about to pat me down, I'm told I can't enter with my binoculars. I asked where on the ticket does it say that and they told me that it was not their policy, but Pearl Jam's. I was told this by several other event staff personnel.
My two options where to throw them in the trash or walk the mile and a half (each way) to where I parked and put them back in the car (these were a little too large to hide in my pants). I did the latter, all the while seething at what was happening and I almost got hit by a car near Fanuiel Hall (the band would've been named in the lawsuit). I couldn't wrap my brain around why such a policy was in place and why it would be at the directive of the band. I'm still totally perplexed by it. I'd really like to know the reasoning behind this policy. Until then, I don't know when I'll be able to put this behind me. It can't be for safety because all it did was make me a danger to society for a while.
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i doubt it was the band's policy- on stuff like that, you'll see the venue blaming the band and the band blaming the venue (not just pearl jam, I mean in general).
Didn't think of that (not that they would've went and got them anyway). I think they were telling me the truth (not that I wasn't suspicious). There were several who told me the same thing and they weren't near each other (including the guy at the bottom of the escalator. I accused him of being on crack.).
If they were small enough, I would've just stuffed them in my pants and went to another entrance (they put special mark on my ticket for re-entry).
Probably not going to happen, but I'd like to see a representative from the band come into this thread and either state that it is not their policy or provide a reason for the policy.
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That was completely hypothetical if I'd gotten hit by that car on my way to my own car.
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Go see Tims (Rubysdad) camera policy thread on the Porch (its a sticky). It says right there no Binoculars. Dunno why that is, but its the bands wishes.
If you look at post #113 in the thread you'll see that it was just added to the list yesterday (2 days after I was not allowed to bring them in).
I think it certainly deserves an explanation as to why it is now a policy.
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Originally Posted by PearlJamBob
that sucks, but your comment about naming the band in the lawsuit is ridiculous
With regards to this, all I meant was that if I got hit by a car because I was in a place I never would've been because of a policy that was never posted anywhere and probably never enforced at any ticketed event in the history of ticketed events, I would've had to have named the band in any hypothetical lawsuit. It's not rocket surgery.
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This is the story I was given in Cleveland when they would not let me take my binoculars in. They didn't even care that there was no strap on them which would make swinging them around impossible to do.
Nice to see that the policy has been posted an entire week after it was put into place.
"Oh my Gawd!, did you know Mike has a dimple on his chin!"
"No way, I gotta see this!"
Oh! Look at Stone's plaid pants!"
ect. ect. ect....
Option #3: Choose a hiding spot and stash them like my friend did. We picked them up after the show...
I'm also legally blind. Have they considered that factor?
I have crowd surfed and no one was hurt as far as I know. That doesn't change the fact that some idiot could hurt someone by swinging around or fist pumping their binoculars. The security can't tell just be looking who will or won't accidentally hurt someone with all the crap they bring into the venue. Plus being in america not only could/would someone sue the person who hit them with the binoculars etc. but also the venue and the band could possibly be held liable. It's sad but nowadays you have to cover your ass.
Anyways like I said before, it's a rock concert you are their for the music not to see what they are wearing!
And someone can't do that with a camera or some other unbanned object?? Yet camera's are allowed.
Like I said earlier in this thread. I only became a danger to society after I was refused admittance with the binoculars (I wanted to break things!).
If someone wants to bring in binoculars, it's not for you to judge their motives. Maybe the band should just play behind a curtain. Since, according to you, there's no need to see them.
Absolutely could. Some dude could take one of the floor chairs and go wwf on everyone around him but obviously we can't remove the chairs. same with cameras, some security are pretty harsh with what cameras are allowed and some could care less. It's entirely possible that another security guy would have let you in without a second look. What I am saying is that I understand the reasoning why binoculars might be banned.
I guess then we should always give you your way then!
I am not judging your motives, accidents can and do happen. I dont see the point in standing and gawking through binoculars. How far back are your seats?
exactly. someone also quoted a kat post saying the same. it is new for this tour, don't know what prompted the change...but yes, it does suck. i haven't brought binoculars to a show since pj in 2003, but using my own 10C # for the first time since 2003, binoculars would come in handy.
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I am an avid boater. They originally retailed at US $1299 but I got them for $750. They are unbelievable. There are no adjustments. Just put them over your eyes. The little rubber cups fit over your eyes and the field of view is amazing. They pick up light at night. You can see things at night. I took them to Robert Plant at the Greek Theatre. My seats were far back but with these things, it was like watching a DVD. To the guy who commented about not caring whether or not you see, the bootleg program might be a nice cheap alternative to buying concert tickets. For me, and I think I speak for most people, the ability to see the performers is a requirement at a concert. My number is 6 digit beginning with 25. At Irvine, 03, my 10c seats were far back and these Binoculars made a huge difference. I was planning to bring these. I can't sneak them in. I could say I was Johnny "Wadd" Holmes and stick them in my pants but everybody knows he's dead.
This, to me seems very arbitrary. I can't think of a reason for the policy. I am really curious why; what the reasoning is behind it. Maybe then, I'll understand.
Better safe than sorry. Stop swinging your binoculars around people.
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I noticed several times they were hitting in the crowd in the upper level...if someone caught one of those in binoculars, that would be a lawsuit waiting to happen
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I don't know what is so hard about providing a reason for the policy. I've sent two emails to 10C asking for an explanation (if I ever get one, I'd drop the whole subject). I received a response to the first email that was totally ambiguous with no explanation for the policy. It did say that they were sorry if I was inconvenienced. A couple of hours after I received that response, the policy thread was updated with the "no Binoculars" notice (on Sat May 27). I sent a follow-up email on Sunday, again asking for the reason behind the policy and have not received an answer.
There was a sign posted at Camden that said a long list of things you couldn't take it including binoculars, blankets, and AUDIO RECORDERS. I think it said "per order of the band," but I could be confusing that with the "No Moshing" sign. I saw plenty of people with all of the above though, and even a few people with bottles and cans of beer as they didn't pat you down very well. So I guess it depends how well they want to carry it out.
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