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  • Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,517
    pjhawks wrote:
    and not sure how you are 'sure' he is a sucky quarterback. he has started exactly 1 NFL game.
    He actually started 3 games at the end of last season.
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  • Posts: 12,907
    RW81233 wrote:
    I guess I should further clarify ... I don't hate Tebow the person (I actually think he's probably a better person than Vick), I hate Tebow the celebrity (the guy that we are fed by the media). Both Vick's and Tebow's celebrity are used to normalize how god fearing white guys are "good", and dog fighting black guys are "bad" without ever actually encouraging us to think a little deeper about why they are the way they are (you are right maybe Vick's just a dick, but do we "know" him or Tebow outside of the camera lens?). Additionally, I think Tebow sucks at being a quarterback, but because he had his celebrity shaped for us in the way it has given him a chance that he doesn't deserve. That's my opinion though so it could be wrong, but completing 49% of your passes against the Dolphins doesn't bode well - especially if Suh gets ahold of him next week.

    ah ok. thanks for clarifying. i do understand your dislike for Tebow better now. and I doubt very highly an NFL coach starts a QB because the guy is a celebrity. i mean can he really be much worse than Kyle Orton? Give the guy a chance to play and see what he can do before we cast him off as a shitty NFL QB.

    edit: granted i don't think his ceiling is very high but i think he can be average or slightly better. lord knows the NFL is littered with that type of QB
  • Florida Posts: 10,219
    RW81233 wrote:
    I guess I should further clarify ... I don't hate Tebow the person (I actually think he's probably a better person than Vick), I hate Tebow the celebrity (the guy that we are fed by the media). Both Vick's and Tebow's celebrity are used to normalize how god fearing white guys are "good", and dog fighting black guys are "bad" without ever actually encouraging us to think a little deeper about why they are the way they are (you are right maybe Vick's just a dick, but do we "know" him or Tebow outside of the camera lens?). Additionally, I think Tebow sucks at being a quarterback, but because he had his celebrity shaped for us in the way it has given him a chance that he doesn't deserve. That's my opinion though so it could be wrong, but completing 49% of your passes against the Dolphins doesn't bode well - especially if Suh gets ahold of him next week.

    You're right, the celebrity thing sucks. I agree that I hate what the media has done to him...But CometoTex said it well:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    I'm not a fan but it's not really his fault. The media has been going overboard on him for years and it's gotten to a point where he's hard to watch.

    I feel bad for Tebow and the celebrity status that has surrounded him. But then again, he was the best college player I ever saw, so I know I was excited to see if his transition to the NFL could work.

    I'm not sure I agree that his celebrity status has given him the chance he doesnt deserve. Again, I feel like he probably works harder than anyone out there. Would the Denver coaches really say, "Geesh Timmy was on ESPN alot, lets give him a start."
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  • Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,230
    adam42381 wrote:
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    He actually started 3 games at the end of

    last season.

    I was going to make that correction....I do admire and appreciate TT work ethic. I was rooting for the guy last Sunday mainly because it brought misery to my household. I don't see TT as an elite NFL qb but he has some drawing charisma that gets the job done barely against a subpar team so far. I wish him well let's see what he could do against the patriots and steelers of the league.

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  • Posts: 2,393
    it's not that he is on ESPN a lot, it's that he got drafted in the first round which means a fairly big cash outlay, and pretty much a guaranteed chance at this - he got drafted in the first round even though he shouldn't have gone there. to be honest i though Orton was really good for about 10 games last year then he physically fell apart...not sure what he was doing this year though. If you honestly think Teebs was the best CFB player you've ever seen then you must be too young to remember Barry Sanders http://sportsratings.typepad.com/colleg ... ers-1.html, and Tommie Frazier was about his equal when it came to on-field success http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommie_Frazier.
  • Posts: 12,907
    RW81233 wrote:
    it's not that he is on ESPN a lot, it's that he got drafted in the first round which means a fairly big cash outlay, and pretty much a guaranteed chance at this - he got drafted in the first round even though he shouldn't have gone there. to be honest i though Orton was really good for about 10 games last year then he physically fell apart...not sure what he was doing this year though. If you honestly think Teebs was the best CFB player you've ever seen then you must be too young to remember Barry Sanders http://sportsratings.typepad.com/colleg ... ers-1.html, and Tommie Frazier was about his equal when it came to on-field success http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommie_Frazier.

    probably a topic for another thread but the best i've seen in college football off the top of my head:

    offense: reggie bush, bo jackson, herschal walker, tim brown
    defense: derrick thomas, deion sanders, charles woodson
  • Austin Posts: 8,057
    I'll agree that if he's the best CFB player you've seen then you haven't been watching long.

    Reggie Bush, Vince Young, Barry Sanders, Ricky Williams and on and on.

    He was never the best player on his team at Florida. When he kept chunking int's against OU in the NC game his D kept bailing him out.
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  • Florida Posts: 10,219
    best I ever saw? Did I say that?
    oh yeah, I guess I did. ;)
    Let me refrain that. He was one of the best I ever saw. I guess when I say that, I somewhat mean that he brought something to the table that I never saw before and led his team to championship and did some remarkable stuff. His leadership and work ethic in college was awesome.

    No question the players you guys named are better and many have gone on to awesome success in the NFL, but Tebow was something different. I have been to many Gator games..mostly in the mid to late 90's.. but Tebow doing his thing brought that whole stadium to the brink of insanity. Just the excitement of what he would do next was fun.
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  • Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,230
    I wish TT well he has a long long way to go I'm rooting for the guy along with Michael Vick until he plays the Patriots.

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    pjhawks wrote:
    i mean can he really be much worse than Kyle Orton?
    Kyle Orton seems to be cursed to play on teams that don't seem to want him. I'm certain he will be traded to whoever drafts Andrew Luck next season.
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    really bad
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    Suck for Luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Jason P wrote:
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    Kyle Orton seems to be cursed to play on teams that don't seem to want him. I'm certain he will be traded to whoever drafts Andrew Luck next season.

    Luck may go to Indy and then Orton definitely won't be there.
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  • San Diego Posts: 746
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7174856/john-fox-says-denver-broncos-sticking-tim-tebow-now

    http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/34722/still-tebow-time-but-for-how-long
    "However, there‘s no doubt Tebow’s leash will not be long. He has played poorly in two starts with little, if any improvement shown. The 2-5 Broncos will likely pull the plug on Tebow early if he doesn’t show marked improvements soon. Denver coach John Fox said Tebow must improve as a pocket passer to keep his job. Tebow has struggled mightily in that area."
  • Posts: 34,024
    This just awesome. The comments are outstanding. Too much for ESPN to moderate according to Deadspin.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/ ... post-tebow
  • San Diego Posts: 746
    Love it

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  • San Diego Posts: 746
    http://tosh.comedycentral.com/video-clips/tebowing

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