Tebow

Indifference71

The amount of hype that this guy gets is insane. I just don't get it. He'll be a mediocre QB at best in the NFL. Yeah, that was a very nice comeback, but he looked like absolute shit for the first 55 mins of that game.

Indifference71

RW81233 wrote:

SVRDhand13 wrote:

RW81233 wrote:

I honestly think the Dolphins saw this as a tiebreak in the suck for luck sweepstakes and called off the dogs.

But the Dolphins head coach wants to keep his job.

nah he wants to get fired and paid to do nothing for 2 more years haha

That sounds pretty good to me....

jg1988

Tebow has a perfect season so far...same as Aaron Rogers!

carolinabeerguy

MSnider44 wrote:

Awwww shucks. God is sad now. Tebow lost.

Huh?

FenwayFaithful

I personally like Tebow and wish him the best in Denver. His faith and the way he shows it doesn't bother me at all. I'd rather have preachy Jesus freaks in the NFL than crazy drugged up thugs getting arrested all the time.

edit: but crazy drugged up NFL thugs who get arrested all the time are funny to me. I'm looking at you Chris Cooke of the Vikings.

SVRDhand13

jg1988 wrote:

Tebow has a perfect season so far...same as Aaron Rogers!

I hope this was a joke.

jg1988

SVRDhand13 wrote:

jg1988 wrote:

Tebow has a perfect season so far...same as Aaron Rogers!

I hope this was a joke.

Its true...take it how you will.

FenwayFaithful

Week 15 Pats travel to Denver. I will go on record as saying Tebow shreds the Pats secondary and has a couple big runs. Pats win obviously, but Tebow will shine in that game. 35-30. Mark it.

Travels With

Indifference71 wrote:

The amount of hype that this guy gets is insane. I just don't get it. He'll be a mediocre QB at best in the NFL. Yeah, that was a very nice comeback, but he looked like absolute shit for the first 55 mins of that game.

Quarterback criticism... from a Bears fan. That's the funniest part of this whole thread. :P

Ayedavanita

FenwayFaithful wrote:

I personally like Tebow and wish him the best in Denver. His faith and the way he shows it doesn't bother me at all. I'd rather have preachy Jesus freaks in the NFL than crazy drugged up thugs getting arrested all the time.

edit: but crazy drugged up NFL thugs who get arrested all the time are funny to me. I'm looking at you Chris Cooke of the Vikings.

I couldn't agree more!
Can't wait to see them play the Pats... I hope it's on where I'm at!

JonnyPistachio

FenwayFaithful wrote:

I personally like Tebow and wish him the best in Denver. His faith and the way he shows it doesn't bother me at all. I'd rather have preachy Jesus freaks in the NFL than crazy drugged up thugs getting arrested all the time.

edit: but crazy drugged up NFL thugs who get arrested all the time are funny to me. I'm looking at you Chris Cooke of the Vikings.

Good point man. I don't understand how people can dislike him. He might not be great anymore, but he works his ass off and is a good leader. I hope he improves and has a good career ahead of him in the NFL.

Indifference71

Travels With wrote:

Indifference71 wrote:

The amount of hype that this guy gets is insane. I just don't get it. He'll be a mediocre QB at best in the NFL. Yeah, that was a very nice comeback, but he looked like absolute shit for the first 55 mins of that game.

Quarterback criticism... from a Bears fan. That's the funniest part of this whole thread. :P

Well, Bears fans are pretty familiar with mediocre QBs.

RW81233

JonnyPistachio wrote:

FenwayFaithful wrote:

I personally like Tebow and wish him the best in Denver. His faith and the way he shows it doesn't bother me at all. I'd rather have preachy Jesus freaks in the NFL than crazy drugged up thugs getting arrested all the time.

edit: but crazy drugged up NFL thugs who get arrested all the time are funny to me. I'm looking at you Chris Cooke of the Vikings.

Good point man. I don't understand how people can dislike him. He might not be great anymore, but he works his ass off and is a good leader. I hope he improves and has a good career ahead of him in the NFL.

This right here is why I hate him. We are fairly sure he's a sucky NFL quarterback, but because he grew up in a society that privileges jesus freak white men, he gets a pass. "Well at least he's not getting in trouble"...well no shit he grew up in a middle class white family that taught him to be god fearin', and to do nice things, it's really a shocker he turned out to be a nice white guy who sucks at quarterback :roll: . This, of course, is in contrast to "thugs" like, say, Michael Vick who's tons better but got caught fighting dogs. Shocker alert, Michael Vick grew up in a shitty area of our country that has been decimated by the system, and, oh my god, he learned how to and kept fighting dogs because that's part of his background. What if he grew up in Tebow's family? Would he have been a god fearing, awesome quarterback? Basically when we root for Tebow and against Vick (or any other thug) it often clouds the systemic reasons why they are "good guys" and "thugs", and that is why I hate Tim Tebow.

JonnyPistachio

RW81233 wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

FenwayFaithful wrote:

I personally like Tebow and wish him the best in Denver. His faith and the way he shows it doesn't bother me at all. I'd rather have preachy Jesus freaks in the NFL than crazy drugged up thugs getting arrested all the time.

edit: but crazy drugged up NFL thugs who get arrested all the time are funny to me. I'm looking at you Chris Cooke of the Vikings.

Good point man. I don't understand how people can dislike him. He might not be great anymore, but he works his ass off and is a good leader. I hope he improves and has a good career ahead of him in the NFL.

This right here is why I hate him. We are fairly sure he's a sucky NFL quarterback, but because he grew up in a society that privileges jesus freak white men, he gets a pass. "Well at least he's not getting in trouble"...well no shit he grew up in a middle class white family that taught him to be god fearin', and to do nice things, it's really a shocker he turned out to be a nice white guy who sucks at quarterback :roll: . This, of course, is in contrast to "thugs" like, say, Michael Vick who's tons better but got caught fighting dogs. Shocker alert, Michael Vick grew up in a shitty area of our country that has been decimated by the system, and, oh my god, he learned how to and kept fighting dogs because that's part of his background. What if he grew up in Tebow's family? Would he have been a god fearing, awesome quarterback? Basically when we root for Tebow and against Vick (or any other thug) it often clouds the systemic reasons why they are "good guys" and "thugs", and that is why I hate Tim Tebow.

Soooo..to clear things up you HATE him because he's not that good and doesnt deserve to be where he is, in your opinion.

Vick is a fucking idiot. I dont care how he grew up. He lives in a civilized society and is a millionaire. He chose to let dogs fight and kill each other. There are a lot of people worse off who dont make nearly as stupid and inhumane decisions as he did. So is it easier to hate Tebow or to hate Vick? Easy answer if you ask me.

Personally, I like to have someone to root for. Tebow is that kind of guy. I think Tebow works his ass off and deserves a shot.

RW81233

I hate him because he's not that good, doesn't deserve to be where he is, AND people love him because "he's a good guy" (read: god fearing and white). It's just stupid to me that people chant his name even though he's the 3rd best QB on his own team. Conversely, while I don't like what Vick did it was part of his upbringing, that was informed, in large part, by a society that has systematically created the context for poor (mostly black) people in his town to fight dogs. Of course the argument always reverts to "his personal choice" to fight dogs or not to, but how many people making that argument actually ever grew up in a situation where dogfighting was even thought of as possible? What the hell do we know about that culture, and trying to get out (if he ever did want to get out)? So to finally clear things up I hate how Tebow and Vick are loved/hated because people mostly evaluate the end product without ever thinking about how and/or why they got to be the way they are.

JonnyPistachio

RW81233 wrote:

I hate him because he's not that good, doesn't deserve to be where he is, AND people love him because "he's a good guy" (read: god fearing and white). It's just stupid to me that people chant his name even though he's the 3rd best QB on his own team. Conversely, while I don't like what Vick did it was part of his upbringing, that was informed, in large part, by a society that has systematically created the context for poor (mostly black) people in his town to fight dogs. Of course the argument always reverts to "his personal choice" to fight dogs or not to, but how many people making that argument actually ever grew up in a situation where dogfighting was even thought of as possible? What the hell do we know about that culture, and trying to get out (if he ever did want to get out)? So to finally clear things up I hate how Tebow and Vick are loved/hated because people mostly evaluate the end product without ever thinking about how and/or why they got to be the way they are.

I see what you're saying.
I just dont understand the people who hate him because people like him.
I think more people support Tebow because of his attitude and passion rather than that he's a good guy, aka "god fearing and white."

You're probably right, not enough people consider how they got to be who they are or how they act, but should that even really matter? No, I've never known anybody that grew up in a crappy situation and suddenly had access to million of dollars, so I dont know that mentality. I assume some "thugs" feel they're to big/important/rich to be brought down by the law. Thats even scarier and more idiotic to me. You can grow up in shitty situations and still know right from wrong.

Lastly, I dont think anybody has given Tebow enough of a chance yet. I honestly dont think he'll ever be great, but like I said, i find it easy to root for someone who works his ass off and does good things in society.

pjhawks

RW81233 wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

FenwayFaithful wrote:

I personally like Tebow and wish him the best in Denver. His faith and the way he shows it doesn't bother me at all. I'd rather have preachy Jesus freaks in the NFL than crazy drugged up thugs getting arrested all the time.

edit: but crazy drugged up NFL thugs who get arrested all the time are funny to me. I'm looking at you Chris Cooke of the Vikings.

Good point man. I don't understand how people can dislike him. He might not be great anymore, but he works his ass off and is a good leader. I hope he improves and has a good career ahead of him in the NFL.

This right here is why I hate him. We are fairly sure he's a sucky NFL quarterback, but because he grew up in a society that privileges jesus freak white men, he gets a pass. "Well at least he's not getting in trouble"...well no shit he grew up in a middle class white family that taught him to be god fearin', and to do nice things, it's really a shocker he turned out to be a nice white guy who sucks at quarterback :roll: . This, of course, is in contrast to "thugs" like, say, Michael Vick who's tons better but got caught fighting dogs. Shocker alert, Michael Vick grew up in a shitty area of our country that has been decimated by the system, and, oh my god, he learned how to and kept fighting dogs because that's part of his background. What if he grew up in Tebow's family? Would he have been a god fearing, awesome quarterback? Basically when we root for Tebow and against Vick (or any other thug) it often clouds the systemic reasons why they are "good guys" and "thugs", and that is why I hate Tim Tebow.

so basically you hate him because he is white and privileged. that is pure reverse racism. i dig your passion for the plight of the underclass and the culture of athletics within that but hating on Tebow for being white and privileged doesn't help your argument the other way. and not sure how you are 'sure' he is a sucky quarterback. he has started exactly 1 NFL game.

and michael vick is a bad dude and not just because of his dog fighting. the dude's a punk regardless of his upbringing or background. he has a very smug fu attitude. i don't like the guy and i see him on tv every night here in philly.

ComeToTX

I'm not a fan but it's not really his fault. The media has been going overboard on him for years and it's gotten to a point where he's hard to watch.

He's the third best QB on his team and one of the worst in the league and he's still the top story every day on ESPN. He's a good guy but there a lot of good guys in the league.

As soon as he's playing against teams that aren't 0-6 he'll be exposed and then maybe the media will quit jerking off to him.

RW81233

I guess I should further clarify ... I don't hate Tebow the person (I actually think he's probably a better person than Vick), I hate Tebow the celebrity (the guy that we are fed by the media). Both Vick's and Tebow's celebrity are used to normalize how god fearing white guys are "good", and dog fighting black guys are "bad" without ever actually encouraging us to think a little deeper about why they are the way they are (you are right maybe Vick's just a dick, but do we "know" him or Tebow outside of the camera lens?). Additionally, I think Tebow sucks at being a quarterback, but because he had his celebrity shaped for us in the way it has given him a chance that he doesn't deserve. That's my opinion though so it could be wrong, but completing 49% of your passes against the Dolphins doesn't bode well - especially if Suh gets ahold of him next week.

81

you all need to turn off the media.